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imfastrnu2

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I know there are a ton of successful 4 core to 6 core, dual processor upgrades for the 2009 MacPro on Youtube, but I'm sad to say that my attempt ended in disappointment.

After ordering and waiting for the CPU's to arrive I set out to do the upgrade. I delidded the CPU's using the vice method and all went very well. Off to a good start. I then took the heatsinks off and removed the old CPU's. I cleaned up the heatsinks and set about preparing the new CPU's. I began by taping off the pad that comes in contact with the heatsink. I first scraped as much off as I could with an old credit card and then used 600grit sandpaper and wet sanded until all the solder was gone. All seemed fine.

Time to put it back together. I put the CPU's in the slots, put on the plastic shield, dropped the heatsink on and began tightening them down. I was meticulous. I bought the MacPro service manual, got an actual inch pound torque wrench, and did everything according to the manual.

Here goes...I put the CPU board back in, crossed my fingers and hit the power button. Light comes on... i wait...I wait...I wait. Nothing. Ugh.
I pull the board back and literally fool with the tightness of the screws for an hour before finally giving up and putting the old CPU's back in. I'm now typing the from that very computer with the old CPU's. I put those in and didn't even bother torquing them but it fired right up, no issues....sigh.

So, somewhere along the way I probably damaged the new CPU's while I was taking the heat spreader off, cleaning off the old solder, or torquing them down. Any number of ways I suppose. Bummer. $75 down the toilet.

But on the positive side. I did upgrade the RAM already to 64GB of 1333 so it's ready if I try again in the future and I already have all the tools I need to try again. But I think in the future, I'll buy delidded CPU's already and save myself a lot of time and trouble.

So, no real reason to post. Didn't have a question or anything, just wanted to let everyone know my experience in case they decide to try. It doesn't always work out, but I learned a few lessons along the way.
:)

David.
 
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thornslack

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I really miss the pindelski guide for upgrading 4,1 cMPs. It was smart, methodical, and meticulous. Bypassed any possibility of these types of problems. Sadly sue-happy dummy’s have to ruin everything :*(

Sorry to hear about your woes, but at least you didn’t damage your sockets.
 

flowrider

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What CPU (CPUs??) did you use. Assume you're talking about a 2009 cMP 4,1? You start off like it's a single CPU machine, but then you mention CPUs???? If it's a dual CPU machine there things you can do to troubleshoot. More information and maybe we can help.

I really miss the pindelski guide for upgrading 4,1 cMPs. It was smart, methodical, and meticulous. Bypassed any possibility of these types of problems.

http://pindelski.org/Photography/technical/mac-pro/

Lou
 
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imfastrnu2

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Jan 1, 2019
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My machine is a 2009 dual CPU. I can't remember exactly but I think they're 2.26 - 4 core processors. I was trying to upgrade to two 5680 - 6 core processors. I've already updated to 5,1 and have 64gb of 1333 RAM.
 

h9826790

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Install ONE processor at a time.

Only install CPU A, and leave socket B empty.

Then you may install CPU B if can boot with just CPU A installed.

So, if you can’t boot with both CPU installed. You know that you only need to adjust the heatsink of CPU B. Or CPU B is faulty, etc.

If can’t boot with CPU A only, try the 2nd CPU in socket A only.
 

JedNZ

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I think you meant 2009 cMP 4,1.

When I upgraded my dual CPU cMP, my first boot was unresponsive. I actually held down the power button as if doing a firmware upgrade and that somehow fixed it - or maybe it was a coincidence.
 

imfastrnu2

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Jan 1, 2019
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I held the power button for awhile just on the off chance that might help but it didn't do anything.

I'm gonna try the single CPU idea. I didn't know it would actually boot with only one CPU. Thanks for the suggestion!
 

h9826790

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I held the power button for awhile just on the off chance that might help but it didn't do anything.

I'm gonna try the single CPU idea. I didn't know it would actually boot with only one CPU. Thanks for the suggestion!

It will boot (assume the CPU itself is good), but because the system can't read CPU B temperature, it will assume the CPU B is overheating, therefore, command full fan speed.

Since the fan is rated for that speed, there is nothing to worry about. Just a bit annoying, and expecte that will happen.
 

imfastrnu2

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Jan 1, 2019
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Huntsville
It will boot (assume the CPU itself is good), but because the system can't read CPU B temperature, it will assume the CPU B is overheating, therefore, command full fan speed.

Since the fan is rated for that speed, there is nothing to worry about. Just a bit annoying, and expecte that will happen.
Excellent, I'll give it a shot. Right after I get some more thermal paste. lol (crossing my fingers)
 

fhturner

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Did you test the CPUs prior to delidding? It's another step, but if you don't check them first and you have problems, you have no way of knowing if you're killing the CPU when delidding or if they were already failing. I have actually purchased an extra single-CPU 4,1 tray, so that I can installed CPUs w/ IHS and test them first, then I delid. So, if you have a single CPU tray, great, test w/ that. If not, you can try picking one up for $75 or so and keep around after you're done, or sell it.
 
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