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.fred

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Hey.

I'm thinking of creating a website.

I'm running Leopard.

Which apps should i use? Which tutorials can anyone recommend me?
:apple:
 
Hey.

I'm thinking of creating a website.

I'm running Leopard.

Which apps should i use? Which tutorials can anyone recommend me?
:apple:

Just learn XHTML and CSS and you'll be well on your way. A quick Google search will turn up loads of tutorials. All you need is a text editor and an image editor (such as the GIMP which is free).
 
Can you recommend some good tutorials made for osx please?

Thanks for the reply! :apple:
 
There are different ways to go about it. I guess the most important question is... What are you starting this website for?

e.g. A business? A blog?
 
IMHO iWeb is a great start for creating a website in OS X. If you want to go further, Rpidweaver is a good choice. But these two options are just for the basic stuff which is enough for me :eek:
 
I agree. The OP is obviously new to web design or would not have asked a starter question. Therefore a starter app, like iWeb, would be a great start to get a feel for design basics. As customization becomes required the code/foundation is there to modify and build from.
 
I'm gonna use it for personal stuff, not business. Is there any good website tutorials out there?
 
Personal stuff, you can always just go with iWeb and a .Mac account.

Lynda.com has great tutorials for all major Web design programs, as well as working directly in the source code.

Not counting the time it took to write the text, my iWeb site took about 10 minutes to set up.
 
I agree. The OP is obviously new to web design or would not have asked a starter question. Therefore a starter app, like iWeb, would be a great start to get a feel for design basics. As customization becomes required the code/foundation is there to modify and build from.

I completely disagree with that sentiment. If you are a beginner it is even more important to learn XHTML and CSS etc without using a WYSIWYG application. It would be like using a program that does all the Maths for you at the start of a Maths degree and then suddenly being told in the third year that you need to do it all on your own.
 
I completely disagree with that sentiment. If you are a beginner it is even more important to learn XHTML and CSS etc without using a WYSIWYG application. It would be like using a program that does all the Maths for you at the start of a Maths degree and then suddenly being told in the third year that you need to do it all on your own.

That is only YOUR learning path, not EVERYONE's. If the OP just want to start a personal blog or something, he / she really don't have to mess up with those codes for now.

After months he / she may decide to move on to a more complex system like WP, he / she will get to learn some basic html and css eventually.

And after all, not everyone is going to be a geek or something.
 
I completely disagree with that sentiment. If you are a beginner it is even more important to learn XHTML and CSS etc without using a WYSIWYG application. It would be like using a program that does all the Maths for you at the start of a Maths degree and then suddenly being told in the third year that you need to do it all on your own.

And I disagree with that. You cant build something unless you know what it looks likes. It like giving someone a box of Legos and telling them you want a Star Destroyer without that person having seen one.

Having an app pre-build something for you, then examining HOW it was done by looking at the HTML/CSS it a great way to learn. In fact, dissecting a web-site is the number one way designers see how others do their work and get ideas. They see something they want, how it was done, then modify it to their needs.

Dissect, understand, implement.

Now if this person was doing this to get into professional design, it may be a different story, but the OP is not.

So I say again, check out Apple's iWeb. Its nice and very versatile. As you grown accustomed to the "rules" of basic design you can start exploring how flexible you can really be!
 
If you're not going to do coding for a living, and your intent is just to simply start a personal website, the best way to start is with a basic service like iWeb that helps you build pages visually.

From there, if you're really yearning to understand what's under the hood, Safari and most other browsers allow you to view source (HTML) code. That's one way to make correlations between what's on screen and what's in the code. Believe it or not, that's how I learned a lot of XHTML, PHP and SQL.

I would suggest more advanced blogging software but it could be confusing for you to set up at this juncture if you've never had any kind of personal website before. So my suggestion is to start with iWeb and see how well it works for you. Look at the pieces of code to see what's going on behind the scenes and later experiment by changing snippets of code (where applicable) to see what happens. As long as you're confined to the index page you can't really blow up anything irreparably by this kind of trial and error.

Then, eventually you might be ready to use something more sophisticated like WordPress, which is free, template-based, and highly customizable blogging software (this will require you to have a web hosting account on a SQL server).

Here's an example of what I did with wordpress: http://www.cinemalogue.com. Personally Wordpress is my favorite but there are all kinds of ways to set up a site these days without having to hardcode everything from scratch.
 
rapidweaver is very easy, for people without the html and all that knowledge + you can still use html for editing..
 
Ok, so I've done up all my HTML codes. Now, is there an easy to use web hosting site which is free? I'm probably doing this not for a business.
 
And I disagree with that. You cant build something unless you know what it looks likes. It like giving someone a box of Legos and telling them you want a Star Destroyer without that person having seen one.

Having an app pre-build something for you, then examining HOW it was done by looking at the HTML/CSS it a great way to learn. In fact, dissecting a web-site is the number one way designers see how others do their work and get ideas. They see something they want, how it was done, then modify it to their needs.

Dissect, understand, implement.

Now if this person was doing this to get into professional design, it may be a different story, but the OP is not.

So I say again, check out Apple's iWeb. Its nice and very versatile. As you grown accustomed to the "rules" of basic design you can start exploring how flexible you can really be!

Well, I won't say I didn't but, dissecting is often less successful than not, as most sites use CMS's- which, inherently of it PHP, can't be dissected so well.

I dunno, a combination of both got me where I am.
 
Ok, so I've done up all my HTML codes. Now, is there an easy to use web hosting site which is free? I'm probably doing this not for a business.

LOL, since everyone else is still arguing over how to answer the first question (which you've already got figured out apparently), I'll suggest some things here.

First place (unless you need a lot of space) is to just check with your ISP. Most ISP's provide about 20MB of space with a decent amount of bandwidth, so if it's a personal site, that's usually plenty. You can use other free hosting, but usually they have ads, where an ISP likely won't.

jW
 
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