Creative Individuality Lost to AI

[deadreckoning]

In iOS 18 I see potential loss of individuality and creativity in the AI enhancements that are described as "Suggested replies" to emails and Messages. From an original Email or Message, AI offers a "suggested reply." The recipient uses the "suggested reply" to which you select the "suggested reply." And on and on until it is only AI responding to itself.

If you are collaborating, or trying to solve a problem, AI, a 3rd party, with no institutional, personal, desire for creative expression or competitive advantage in the original situation derails the humans interacting sequence to ... where? Mediocracy?

 

[Bigwaff]

with no institutional, personal, desire for creative expression or competitive advantage in the original situation derails the humans interacting sequence to ... where? Mediocracy?

Idiocracy.

 

[eyoungren]

In iOS 18 I see potential loss of individuality and creativity in the AI enhancements that are described as "Suggested replies" to emails and Messages. From an original Email or Message, AI offers a "suggested reply." The recipient uses the "suggested reply" to which you select the "suggested reply." And on and on until it is only AI responding to itself.

If you are collaborating, or trying to solve a problem, AI, a 3rd party, with no institutional, personal, desire for creative expression or competitive advantage in the original situation derails the humans interacting sequence to ... where? Mediocracy?

I am not emailing much, except for work. And all work email is done on a MacBook Pro. Unless I'm sick and then it's ME sending the original email, but from my phone. Most of the emails I send out are short phrases about some aspect of my job I just completed. And most emails sent to me do not really require a reply. If they do, it's again, a short phrase acknowledging that I did something I was asked to do.

Instructions necessary for handling various job tasks is all contained in Filemaker Pro. FM is accessed using the MacBook Pro that work has assigned to me. Again, short phrases. What I do operates around short phrases. Stuff like, 'Done, changes made, on the server', etc. So, if AI starts writing stuff people are going to be wondering. But again, none of that is handled on my phone.

With Messages, I mainly text my wife, my son and my daughter. They're going to know if it's not me. AI can't replicate how I communicate with my family and friends.

In short, my iPhone is NOT used for work. I may use Google Chat to keep in contact with one specific person who needs to know what is going on with my schedule during the work day, but unless this AI is using Google Chat there's not going to be a problem.

Finally, stuff like this I turn off. I write my own emails/texts, even if my grammar and spelling suck.

 

[now i see it]

^ above text was generated by a chat bot

 

[eyoungren]

^ above text was generated by a chat bot

LOL, that's me - a chatty bot.

 

[Shirasaki]

I know this idea is becoming foreign, but hear me out: people can still just write the email themselves. Same for messages, chats. Heck, even make phone calls themselves. What you describe that effectively AI is responding to each other, that’s not mediocracy, that’s the destruction of human as a race.

Sometimes I just can’t believe I could live through the fantasy decade and will be able to see some fantasy realised, that is AI and robots.

 

[tomekwsrod]

I fear losing human touch. Already many of the e-mails or comms at work are generated by AI. It is so polished that it is hard to see a human behind the texts. Maybe it is going to be an onset of getting back more to face-to-face conversations.

 

[Shirasaki]

I fear losing human touch. Already many of the e-mails or comms at work are generated by AI. It is so polished that it is hard to see a human behind the texts. Maybe it is going to be an onset of getting back more to face-to-face conversations.

Years of language research and development finally comes together, although not everyone is onboard the revolution due to its high chance and high risk of abuse. Still, face-to-face, or more precisely, in-person conversation, should still be encouraged instead of going virtual only, through AI or not.

 

[stinksroundhere]

In iOS 18 I see potential loss of individuality and creativity in the AI enhancements that are described as "Suggested replies" to emails and Messages. From an original Email or Message, AI offers a "suggested reply." The recipient uses the "suggested reply" to which you select the "suggested reply." And on and on until it is only AI responding to itself.

If you are collaborating, or trying to solve a problem, AI, a 3rd party, with no institutional, personal, desire for creative expression or competitive advantage in the original situation derails the humans interacting sequence to ... where? Mediocracy?

The brain is like a muscle. If we don't use it we lose it, especially as we get older.

Also, those brain to hand connections need to be used all the time otherwise coordination diminishes. If we don't type we become worse typists. If we don't draw we become worse at that. etc.

Anyway, this AI malarkey isn't like AI moon boys and AI influenzas claim it will be. It will always be cumbersome. at the turn of the millennium news outlets were saying CGI was going to replace all actors and the acting profession was doomed. Journos wrote that with a straight face.

Just stop listening to people who stay in front of a YouTube camera or Twitter all day.

For the majority of people AI stuff will just be a little thing on the side of everything we have.

 

[antiprotest]

Just let it happen.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

It feels like people see AI as all or nothing. We've all hesitated to send an email because we worried the tone was off, right?

Now think about someone writing in English when it's not their first language. AI can help them clean up their email and even explain the changes, making it a great learning tool.

Even better - AI translation, to communicate with people we work with that are based overseas. Even if it doesn't come out perfectly, I'm sure it'll be a funny bonding experience for both ends.

 

[Algr]

If three-word text messages are someone's source of "individuality", then there is nothing to be lost from AI.

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

We out here buying all our devices from a single corporation for 10 years+ and are worried about pre-written responses making us look like chatbots?

We've been losing that long ago through the filters of technology, even before the smartphone.

On the upside, you can have it all back in an instant -Just meet with people irl or make a regular phone call.

I have to assume that all the loneliness induced by all the efficiency we get with AI will eventually lead to human-to-human interaction becoming some sort of trend at one point, like many of the other pastimes that pre-internet humans enjoyed that eventually start trending.

 

[mw360]

Much as I'm very wary of AI, and the dubious ethics especially, here's a counterpoint. At work we deal mostly face to face but over three periods in my career the workplace communications leant more towards online text-based system. It goes back and forth with the fashions. What I found that the text-based systems caused more workplace friction and stress and resentments than face-to-face interactions. People get snarky, either by intent or accident, people perceive snark and hostility when it isn't there, people get paranoid. The discourse surfaces the sort of bitterness you see in online forums, completely at odds with how those same people talk to each other IRL. IMO, AI is better than many human writers at tone. If AI can help employee A tell employee B they messed up in a cool and polite way, or express disagreement calmly, then there'll be a workplace benefit. And if it helps the conscientious writer, who frets over the tone of his emails for way too much of the working day there's a benefit there too.

 

[cjsuk]

This is a great opportunity to distinguish yourself and provide higher quality of service than any AI. Personal touch and service goes a long way.

The problem with the current AI ideology is it’s a race to the bottom. And everyone already knows what that looks like in society: Amazon customer service. Which at least here in the UK is less than useless.

 

[Unami]

In iOS 18 I see potential loss of individuality and creativity in the AI enhancements that are described as "Suggested replies" to emails and Messages. From an original Email or Message, AI offers a "suggested reply." The recipient uses the "suggested reply" to which you select the "suggested reply." And on and on until it is only AI responding to itself.

If you are collaborating, or trying to solve a problem, AI, a 3rd party, with no institutional, personal, desire for creative expression or competitive advantage in the original situation derails the humans interacting sequence to ... where? Mediocracy?

OTOH, that has already happened elsewhere. My brother has been using ChatGPT for answering business-emails for months. Before that he would struggle with words and waste a lot of time formulating a text. Personally, I'd be embarassed to use ChatGPTS bland and inelegant writing style, but I'm better with words than he is. I'm also aware that a lot of people don't appreciate a more sophisticated writing style, but that's just how it is. AI is evolving rapidly, but as it stands now, it's more or less a crutch for people who can't do something well. It lifts them up to mediocrity and reveals those who made a career out of being mediocre. No worries so far, but that might change fast.

 

[cosmichobo]

In iOS 18 I see potential loss of individuality and creativity in the AI enhancements that are described as "Suggested replies" to emails and Messages. From an original Email or Message, AI offers a "suggested reply." The recipient uses the "suggested reply" to which you select the "suggested reply." And on and on until it is only AI responding to itself.

If you are collaborating, or trying to solve a problem, AI, a 3rd party, with no institutional, personal, desire for creative expression or competitive advantage in the original situation derails the humans interacting sequence to ... where? Mediocracy?

Microsoft Teams often makes suggestions for how to respond to messages.

I rarely ever use the feature myself.

I'm sure some do.

I'm sure some will use the features in whatever Apple makes.

I'm sure of many things.

I'm not a bot.

Honest.

 

[leifp]

Yup

 

[TechnoMonk]

I have been mostly generating my emails locally using llama3 models on my MBP. Saves ton of time for repetitive tasks and content. I just scan through before sending. I can use my brain for more creative tasks. If iPhone has something good, i will use it, but it needs to be local, not in the cloud.

 

[klasma]

people can still just write the email themselves.

This will become looked down upon and you‘ll become a social outcast. “Who does this weirdo think he is with his strange deviant writing?”

 

[Alameda]

In iOS 18 I see potential loss of individuality and creativity in the AI enhancements that are described as "Suggested replies" to emails and Messages. From an original Email or Message, AI offers a "suggested reply." The recipient uses the "suggested reply" to which you select the "suggested reply." And on and on until it is only AI responding to itself.

If you are collaborating, or trying to solve a problem, AI, a 3rd party, with no institutional, personal, desire for creative expression or competitive advantage in the original situation derails the humans interacting sequence to ... where? Mediocracy?

AI cannot create anything new. Creativity and creation still reside solely in the domain of human beings.

 

[Algr]

AI cannot create anything new.

Neither can pencils or tape recorders.

But ALL technological, artistic, and scientific progress is based on building upon the works of others. Einstein would never have developed relativity if he had not studied the works of Newton. Elvis and The Beatles would not have been the same if they did not have jazz and Archimedes to work from. Star Wars needed Flash Gordon and Holst.

Creativity comes from humans, and it makes no difference if the human is using a pencil or an AI prompt. Low-effort pencil drawings exist, so does low-effort AI. That doesn't mean great works can't be made with either tool.

(Also, AI is FAR harder to use than the demos would have you believe. I've spent days struggling with it, only to end up doing most of the work in Pixelmator instead.)

 

[Alameda]

Neither can pencils or tape recorders.

But ALL technological, artistic, and scientific progress is based on building upon the works of others. Einstein would never have developed relativity if he had not studied the works of Newton. Elvis and The Beatles would not have been the same if they did not have jazz and Archimedes to work from. Star Wars needed Flash Gordon and Holst.

Creativity comes from humans, and it makes no difference if the human is using a pencil or an AI prompt. Low-effort pencil drawings exist, so does low-effort AI. That doesn't mean great works can't be made with either tool.

(Also, AI is FAR harder to use than the demos would have you believe. I've spent days struggling with it, only to end up doing most of the work in Pixelmator instead.)

I can’t tell if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me.

 

[Algr]

What you said is true, on the face of it. But there seems to be an unstated assumption that "anything AI is bad or stolen." Others have stated that directly, and I disagree. AI is just another tool in an ever changing world.

 

[Chuckeee]

Wasn’t the same argument made in the mid-1800s? That the widespread use of photography was removing all artistic creativity as compared to painting.