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iPhone CustomGrid and iOS5 Broken?

iammike1

iammike1

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Oct 25, 2007
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I've tried a few times to get CustomGrid working on my iOS 5.1.1 jailbreak but each time it doesn't work.

It will allow me to change the number of columns and rows but it does not allow me to place the icons where I want them.

Anyone else having this problem or know a solution?

(No I am not interested in using Gridlock. Caused me nothing but grief when I used it)
 
More, but interestingly just for experimentation purposes, I uninstalled CustomGrid just now and reinstalled GridLock and now it's doing the same thing CustomGrid was doing. I can't actually put the icons where I want them even though I know for a fact I could with GridLock before.
 
I often have trouble dropping the icons in the right spot, but I think my problem is always with iconoclasm. I thought it was anyway, it may have to do with Gridlock. Its always been that way, I've kind of got used to dropping them up and to the side a little of where I want it to go, it usually works pretty decent.
 
My problem is with Gridlock, if I'm moving an icon from, say, screen 3 to screen 1 and I take just a second too long on screen 2, it then shifts all the icons to make a space for me including pushing the last icon off to screen 3 (which then of course does the same thing to screen 4 and so on).

The problem is that when I move away and don't use the space, unlike stock iOS, it doesn't move all those icons back so now it's up to me to move each individual icon back one spot for however many pages it messed stuff up.
 
Oh yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I have the same problem. I have found if you use MultiIconMover it makes this easier when you move from page to page. I sometimes just move them around to a bunch of pages, the use MultiIconMover to get them on the pages I want and in the correct order I want. With a space this might be hard though. Maybe you need a layout in Iconoclasm so you don't have empty spaces to worry about.
 
jjk454ss said:
Oh yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I have the same problem. I have found if you use MultiIconMover it makes this easier when you move from page to page. I sometimes just move them around to a bunch of pages, the use MultiIconMover to get them on the pages I want and in the correct order I want. With a space this might be hard though. Maybe you need a layout in Iconoclasm so you don't have empty spaces to worry about.
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I'm about to try that because CustomGrid refuses to work for me even though I've went as far as completely resetting my icon layouts in iOS (meaning all my **** is back to default now...gotta rebuild all my folders).
 
That sucks. I try to have as few icons as possible. Now that Springtomize fixed the issue where you couldn't spotlight search hidden icons, I just hide a lot of them and use Springtomize to launch the app. I typically have only one springboard page, maybe 2 depending on how much space I have after adding a weather widget.
 
*sigh* There are so many reasons I hate hate hate the iOS jailbreak community. Too much of the stuff out there just feels like hack jobs.

Spent $3 on Iconoclasm since it said it let you put icons wherever you want...well it doesn't. Everything still tries to go to the standard iOS left to right, top to bottom unless I want to have my icons in the same custom positions on every page.

Such a simple damn thing has to be such a pain in the ass.

I'm more than a little frustrated at the moment having purchased Iconoclasm, CustomGrid and Gridlock and still not having any solution even though all 3 say they do it. Gridlock came close except for annoying stuff like mentioned above at least. Only damn one that lived up to what it advertised in it's description.
 
You can make a layout for almost anything in iconoclasm. I don't know about different layouts on different pages though.

I have 2 of these 3 tweaks, but I think for all 3 if you read the description, you would have known what they did before purchasing them.

Iconoclasm and Gridlock is no way feel like "hack jobs". They do what they are supposed to, you might just need to take the time to read what they do and learn to use them.
 
Iconoclasm: "You can define as many rows or columns you want. You can even break free from rows and columns, and simply have icons placed freely on your home screen."

For CustomGrid you are correct. I took the word of someone out in the big wide interwebz that CG is what I needed.
 
iammike1 said:
Iconoclasm: "You can define as many rows or columns you want. You can even break free from rows and columns, and simply have icons placed freely on your home screen."
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You right about that, that is kind of deceiving.
 
jjk454ss said:
You right about that, that is kind of deceiving.
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Well I found a layout in Iconoclasm that met most of my needs but ran into the next bug I'm hoping someone has a solution for.

If I have a folder on the bottom row (not the dock) then tap to open the folder. It opens in a downward direction off the screen and I can only see the top 4 icons in the folder and just part of the text for each of those 4. The rest of the icons are off the bottom of the screen and you can't scroll down to get them.

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...and no, I wouldn't really put these on the level of hack jobs. I'm just very frustrated with iOS at the moment and trying to accomplish something I consider so simple is driving me up a wall.

I wouldn't consider them marvels of programming though as with each of the 3, they have, what I would consider, major bugs or flaws that could or should be addressed. I think it's silly to pay the premium price for an iPhone with iOS only to feel like I am adding incomplete code to it because I jailbroke.

I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that iOS is best for people who don't want to have to deal with their device unless they are doing a specific task. No big problems...but no big freedom.

Android is for those of us who like to hack and slash on our stuff. Contrary to the feeling I get from the iOS jailbreak community, there are plenty of amazing devs out there working on the "root" side of the Android house. They are open and communicate well with the users through platforms like Twitter and Google+ and generally, when I install their stuff, I feel I've added something that has been well thought out.

Of course there are great examples of good devs on both sides and great examples of bad devs on both sides but I think the best of the iOS dev world concentrates on stuff that is still within the walled garden while the best of the Android devs are outside of the Play Store and dealing with rooted phones.

I think this is reenforced by the quality of apps in each official store. iOS takes the cake for quality stuff in the official store. Android takes the cake once you move outside the planned lines and start dealing with root/jailbreak.

Just my 2 cents.
 
iammike1 said:
Well I found a layout in Iconoclasm that met most of my needs but ran into the next bug I'm hoping someone has a solution for.

If I have a folder on the bottom row (not the dock) then tap to open the folder. It opens in a downward direction off the screen and I can only see the top 4 icons in the folder and just part of the text for each of those 4. The rest of the icons are off the bottom of the screen and you can't scroll down to get them.

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...and no, I wouldn't really put these on the level of hack jobs. I'm just very frustrated with iOS at the moment and trying to accomplish something I consider so simple is driving me up a wall.

I wouldn't consider them marvels of programming though as with each of the 3, they have, what I would consider, major bugs or flaws that could or should be addressed. I think it's silly to pay the premium price for an iPhone with iOS only to feel like I am adding incomplete code to it because I jailbroke.

I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that iOS is best for people who don't want to have to deal with their device unless they are doing a specific task. No big problems...but no big freedom.

Android is for those of us who like to hack and slash on our stuff. Contrary to the feeling I get from the iOS jailbreak community, there are plenty of amazing devs out there working on the "root" side of the Android house. They are open and communicate well with the users through platforms like Twitter and Google+ and generally, when I install their stuff, I feel I've added something that has been well thought out.

Of course there are great examples of good devs on both sides and great examples of bad devs on both sides but I think the best of the iOS dev world concentrates on stuff that is still within the walled garden while the best of the Android devs are outside of the Play Store and dealing with rooted phones.

I think this is reenforced by the quality of apps in each official store. iOS takes the cake for quality stuff in the official store. Android takes the cake once you move outside the planned lines and start dealing with root/jailbreak.

Just my 2 cents.
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Since I am not and never have been an Android user, I'm just curious about specific examples. What specifically is better? What can you do with a rooted Android device you can't do with your jailbroken iPhone?
 
Oh boy, such a loaded question that's just setting me up for the MacRumors firing squad. lol

Before I say anything, I'm very on the fence between the Galaxy Nexus and the iPhone 4S. Each has advantages and disadvantages. Each is very good at what it does well...and quite annoying in what it does not do well.

Anyway, I will specifically address your question about what I can do with a rooted GNex that I can't do on a jailbroken iPhone 4S.

- Custom ROM's. Although this has some effect on performance, I view it mostly as a customization thing. Options like Cyanogenmod and AOKP are about providing lots of customization. Others like SlimICS or LiquidSmooth are about streamlining everything and getting rid of little used background processes.

- Kernels, my favorite. These have a large impact on performance and battery life and can be tuned on the fly. Most ROM's include custom kernel's as well and is how they provide the performance boost but you can load your own preference of kernel on these custom ROM's as well as the stock 4.0.4 from Google. With a control program like the one for franco.Kernel, I can use several profiles provided by franco or make my own...or I can fine tweak like only changing one setting. This is great because if I know I am going to be away from a charger for an extended period, I can reduce top clock speeds, use a conservative governor or even shut down one of my 2 cores to stretch out the battery life...or I can crank it up. This can all be done without reboots so you can bump it up to take care of one thing if you really want to then turn it right back down.

Those are my two biggies. I'm at work right now so can't get too far into it. If you have more questions though, feel free to ask. I can start listing the bad things about Android as well. lol
 
iammike1 said:
Oh boy, such a loaded question that's just setting me up for the MacRumors firing squad. lol

Before I say anything, I'm very on the fence between the Galaxy Nexus and the iPhone 4S. Each has advantages and disadvantages. Each is very good at what it does well...and quite annoying in what it does not do well.

Anyway, I will specifically address your question about what I can do with a rooted GNex that I can't do on a jailbroken iPhone 4S.

- Custom ROM's. Although this has some effect on performance, I view it mostly as a customization thing. Options like Cyanogenmod and AOKP are about providing lots of customization. Others like SlimICS or LiquidSmooth are about streamlining everything and getting rid of little used background processes.

- Kernels, my favorite. These have a large impact on performance and battery life and can be tuned on the fly. Most ROM's include custom kernel's as well and is how they provide the performance boost but you can load your own preference of kernel on these custom ROM's as well as the stock 4.0.4 from Google. With a control program like the one for franco.Kernel, I can use several profiles provided by franco or make my own...or I can fine tweak like only changing one setting. This is great because if I know I am going to be away from a charger for an extended period, I can reduce top clock speeds, use a conservative governor or even shut down one of my 2 cores to stretch out the battery life...or I can crank it up. This can all be done without reboots so you can bump it up to take care of one thing if you really want to then turn it right back down.

Those are my two biggies. I'm at work right now so can't get too far into it. If you have more questions though, feel free to ask. I can start listing the bad things about Android as well. lol
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OK, I guess I was looking for even more specific than that. I am no expert, but the people I have talked to tend to say they want an Android because they can do X, and I cant do that on an iPhone. Normally they are wrong if they are talking about rooted or jailbroke phones.
 
jjk454ss said:
OK, I guess I was looking for even more specific than that. I am no expert, but the people I have talked to tend to say they want an Android because they can do X, and I cant do that on an iPhone. Normally they are wrong if they are talking about rooted or jailbroke phones.
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Hmm, for me it was simpler than that. lol After 5 years of iOS, I've gotten quite bored with it. I wanted something new and exciting to play with...enter Galaxy Nexus.

Most of what I've been able to do with the phone post-rooting I learned about after I already had the phone. I really just wanted a change not to mention, I think I've become more well rounded in my opinions on both platforms having used both and dug pretty deep in both.

Most root apps are really no more accomplished than what you can do with a jailbreak app although my general experience on both is that the root community on Android is more developed. This probably has a lot to do with basically being a linux box in a phone. None the less, for your typical app in concept, it's not much different.

The real difference I see between the two is how deep root devs can go into the OS itself tweaking, rewriting, and implementing new coding techniques that haven't made it to official Android release yet. These things can be up-channeled back into the Android Open Source Project as well so the official factory Android benefits quite a lot from what these root devs do.

My honest future prediction is that these tools give Android a much more flexible approach to development and advancement which could really put some heat on Apple but only time will really tell. The biggest problem I see with Android is how fragmentation of both hardware and operating system has created an app market which lags well behind the bleeding edge of what Android can do. Most apps I can hop on the Play Store and grab aren't really taking advantage of the advancements of Ice Cream Sandwich because ICS only accounts for 7% of users still.
 
That makes sense, I really wish for reasons like we are talking about, that I could get an Android phone to actually use for a couple weeks. I do want to actually use one which is so much different than playing with someone else's for a few minutes.

My problem with doing that, is what do I get? Like you talk about with the fragmentation, I like that with iOS, even the jailbreak stuff, it all just works. Doesn't matter what phone you have(for the most part). I'm also stuck in the world of Apple, I read MacRumors and AppleInsider and TUAW, so what I read and hear is all positive towards Apple so I get the one side, I know there are just as many people saying Android is the way to go.

I remember seeing this the other day, kind of covers what we are talking about:

http://lifehacker.com/5916593/forge...-phone-for-hacking-tweaking-and-customization
 
I don't think you can go wrong sticking with the Nexus line. It's the closest you will get to the iOS benefits in the Android world. As long as your get a GSM version, you will be among the first, if not the first, to see updates to Android because you're working directly off the AOSP (Android Open Source Project). Unfortunately CDMA is not directly supported by AOSP so there is a bit of a delay there...nothing like what people get from non Nexus phones though.

The Galaxy Nexus is also an affordable (for smart phones) entry point with good to great hardware coming in at $400 direct from Google for the unlocked international GSM version.

To add to that, because the Nexus phones are always very popular, you get a great deal of app and dev support for the devices vs. getting some obscure Android device with little to no direct support.

I would say running a completely stock, unrooted, Nexus line phone is the closest you will get to a middle line between iOS and mainstream Android. By mainstream I mean all the skinned and modified versions the different manufacturers and carriers tear into and **** up.

I'm back on my iPhone 4S right now though. Unjailbroken and just enjoying what Apple does best. Providing a device that just works. Give me a day or two though and I'll be playing with the Nexus again. I'm still very much on the fence between the two.

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...oh, and to add. If you are a heavy user of Google's online services, this is a huge push towards Android. Google services just integrate so much better with Android for obvious reasons.

Google services on iOS are hampered by both companies. Apple would like to move Google off the iPhone and Google wants to be on the iPhone but they don't want to provide a better experience than what they provide on Android.
 
iammike1 said:
Well I found a layout in Iconoclasm that met most of my needs but ran into the next bug I'm hoping someone has a solution for.

If I have a folder on the bottom row (not the dock) then tap to open the folder. It opens in a downward direction off the screen and I can only see the top 4 icons in the folder and just part of the text for each of those 4. The rest of the icons are off the bottom of the screen and you can't scroll down to get them.

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I just ran into this problem. Is there a fix for it?
 
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