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>Shocking grasp would be very heroic!
Alas!, They shall sing your bravery in taverns from Neverwinter to Skuld, although I am not sure the rest of the lyrics would be very lionizing.
in truth, a ranged cantrip seems to be most appropriate for a chained beast.
 
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It appears that they are both ranged.

>Shocking grasp would be very heroic!
Alas!, They shall sing your bravery in taverns from Neverwinter to Skuld, although I am not sure the rest of the lyrics would be very lionizing.
in truth, a ranged cantrip seems to be most appropriate for a chained beast.

*To myself: Yes, the bards would sing, applauding brainless courage and intrepid idiocy, while the more sanguinary and blood stained the outcome, the wilder, louder, more ecstatic and much more out of tune the melody, and the more joyful and lustful and tuneless the singing.

Yes. Not quite the career path that this Elven historian and scholar had initially envisaged, a fate where - though splendidly and senselessly dead - I would end up celebrated as a part of the gloriously rich but intemperate bardic lore of Neverwinter and a source of insane inspiration for the interminable sagas of Skuld. Good grief.*

@Scepticalscribe, As I see it, ranged is ray of frost. It doesn't matter though since you still have to roll to hit with that accursed die.

You can't cast Fire Bolt (you don't know it).

Gosh.

One source, the one at the bottom of the first page, as part of the wiki posted by @Don't panic, mentions Fire Bolt as one of the cantrips available to me; @ravenvii, are my cantrips confined to those on my character sheet, or, can I include those on the list added on the first page under the PDF file 'wizard'?
 
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*To myself: Yes, the bards would sing, applauding brainless courage and intrepid idiocy, while the more sanguinary and blood stained the outcome, the wilder, louder, more ecstatic and much more out of tune the melody, and the more joyful and lustful and tuneless the singing.

Yes. Not quite the career path that this Elven historian and scholar had initially envisaged, a fate where - though splendidly and senselessly dead - I would end up celebrated as a part of the gloriously rich but intemperate bardic lore of Neverwinter and a source of insane inspiration for the interminable sagas of Skuld. Good grief.



Gosh.

One source, the one at the bottom of the first page, as part of the wiki posted by @Don't panic, mentions Fire Bolt as one of the cantrips available to me; @ravenvii, are my cantrips confined to those on my character sheet, or, can I include those on the list added on the first page under the PDF file 'wizard'?
Only the cantrips on your character sheet. As you can see on the next page, you'll be given the chance to learn an additional cantrip of your choosing when you reach level 4.
 
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*To myself: Yes, the bards would sing, applauding brainless courage and intrepid idiocy, while the more sanguinary and blood stained the outcome, the wilder, louder, more ecstatic and much more out of tune the melody, and the more joyful and lustful and tuneless the singing.

Yes. Not quite the career path that this Elven historian and scholar had initially envisaged, a fate where - though splendidly and senselessly dead - I would end up celebrated as a part of the gloriously rich but intemperate bardic lore of Neverwinter and a source of insane inspiration for the interminable sagas of Skuld. Good grief.



Gosh.

One source, the one at the bottom of the first page, as part of the wiki posted by @Don't panic, mentions Fire Bolt as one of the cantrips available to me; @ravenvii, are my cantrips confined to those on my character sheet, or, can I include those on the list added on the first page under the PDF file 'wizard'?
ewhrm nope.
that list is all the spells that are exist for a wizard TO LEARN, in general.
But the ones that are available to YOU are the ones listed under (...drumroll...) "SPELLS AVAILABLE"
which are:
Cantrips: Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Ray of Frost, Shocking Grasp
Level 1: Magic Missile, Burning Hands, Sleep, Mage Armour, Shield, Detect Magic

you- of all people- should know that to learn a spell, especially to the level that you have it mechanically memorized so you don't even need to review it (e.g. cantrip), you need to STUDY first.
[doublepost=1457564568][/doublepost]you could also try to awe the wolfie with a fireworks show...
 
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Only the cantrips on your character sheet. As you can see on the next page, you'll be given the chance to learn an additional cantrip of your choosing when you reach level 4.

Fair enough.

ewhrm nope.
that list is all the spells that are exist for a wizard TO LEARN, in general.
But the ones that are available to YOU are the ones listed under (...drumroll...) "SPELLS AVAILABLE"
which are:
Cantrips: Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Ray of Frost, Shocking Grasp
Level 1: Magic Missile, Burning Hands, Sleep, Mage Armour, Shield, Detect Magic

you- of all people- should know that to learn a spell, especially to the level that you have it mechanically memorize so you don't even need to review it (e.g. cantrip), you need to STUDY first.

Ah, I see….

Me? Moi? I always studied, even - especially - the stuff I wasn't possibly supposed to….

Well, I was the sort who found herself in the Forbidden Sections of the Library, or, who had Professors borrow texts on my behalf so that I could briefly acquaint myself with material considered above my level, sometimes driven by the desire to note the following year's course in advance, other times motivated by intellectual curiosity……and yet others, spurred by academic ambition...

Very well then. Let us try a ranged spell of Ray of Frost on this furry creature, and see what transpires….
[doublepost=1457565837][/doublepost]Attempting to awe the wolfie with a fireworks show? Hm. Something tells me that a mercurial pair of dice might take grave umbrage to this idea and that it might……not work to our advantage.

Now: If my 'Animal Handling' Skills were somewhat higher than they are, I might risk attempting some unusually soothing Elven music on my extraordinarily complicated Elven flute - of the Esoterick Elven High Barockque Operatick Tradition, which I am actually, and naturally, rather partial to - and relatively accomplished in reproducing, faithfully, its complex arrangements.

Other races, less cultivated, are prone to mutter ungraciously about its supposedly soporific qualities. Yet, it is a thing of rare beauty. Even if nobody else other than High Elves can remain awake long enough to appreciate its inestimable musical qualities.
 
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what about using Prestidigitation to make the goblin corpses smell or taste like, say, rabbit (or whatever wolves crave the most)?

If these wolves have been trained successfully to disdain goblin flesh, - as clearly, they have been - I have an odd feeling that their keen noses might have been trained in other ways, as well. Such as how to distinguish between reality and……cunningly wrought artifice.
 
Okay, @ravenvii. A ranged cantrip (stencilled in my mind, effortlessly encoded, and easily recalled): Let us try the ranged cantrip of Ray of Frost against what remains of these unfortunate furry creatures…….

(Chords from the Elven Esoterick High Barockque Operatick Tradition whisper, mournfully, and regretfully, in my mind: What a pity my triple keyed flute is not in my saddlebag, and equally regrettable, that the option of attempting to forge a meaningful soporific connection must be reluctantly foregone…I would have welcomed the opportunity of ascertaining whether wolves had a higher appreciation for our opera than……..some other races.)
 
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Okay, @ravenvii. A ranged cantrip (stencilled in my mind, effortlessly encoded, and easily recalled): Let us try the ranged cantrip of Ray of Frost against what remains of these unfortunate furry creatures…….

(Chords from the Elven Esoteric High Barockque Operatic Tradition whisper, mournfully, and regretfully, in my mind: What a pity my triple keyed flute is not in my saddlebag, and equally regrettable, that the option of attempting to forge a meaningful soporific connection must be reluctantly foregone…I would have welcomed the opportunity of ascertaining whether wolves had a higher appreciation for our opera than……..some other races.)
From where you stand, you mutter an incantation and raise your hand. A ray that freezes the very air around it shoots out of your palm and --

*** CHECK ***
13, and you get a +5, so you need 8:

Syllin: 15

Yep, and the damage is 1d8, so:

Syllin: 6

Wolf 1 now has 1 hp.
*** CHECK ***

-- hit the wolf in the face. The wolf staggered and fell as ice shards form across its body. The ice stopped just short of killing it as it somehow found the strength to struggle back on its feet. It clearly does not have long to live, however.

>>> New round! @Plutonius it's back to you.
 
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*Internal musing:

Sigh. Well, a part of me regrets this, and regrets even more that I was deprived of the opportunity to test whether wolves could develop an appreciation for High Opera of the Elven Esoterick Barockque Variety. And then fall deeply and soundly asleep.

As unfortunately, apparently, happened with several of our audiences - an embarrassingly high number, in fact, - a regrettable matter about which reports were most thoughtfully suppressed by some of our embassies accredited to those lands.

Alack and alas, the somnolent tendency of our (somewhat unappreciative) audiences became clear when the Elven Players Of The Fine Barockque Musick And Esoterick Opera Companye toured widely some years ago in the realms of some other races - the lands of dwarves and humans seemed to feature - a time when they played to sell out crowds and strangely somnolent, stupefied and soporific audiences, some of whom, if lore and local media sources were to be believed, badly needed resuscitation - or so they claimed - in the slightly bizarre form of being ardently smothered by slobbery kisses administered or bestowed by princesses and princes……

Needy. Very needy. High maintenance. Clutching…..emotionally demanding. Very unsettling, really.

Well, at least if I cannot paralyse a poor chained and howling and whimpering wolf with the Elven interpretation of High Barockque Operatick Musick, - the Esoterick Interpretation - a cantrip of Ray of Frost appears to be able to the trick….*
 
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The PDF sheet shows ray of frost doing 1D8 damage. I doubt she would do better than the 6 points damage but you should probably re-roll the damage.

Orders: Shoot the unhurt wolf.
>>> Typo; I did roll a d8.

Figuring the others will take care of the barely-alive wolf, you decide to aim for the unharmed wolf snapping and spitting at you. Raising your arrow -- and muttering an oath -- you let loose another arrow --

*** CHECK ***
Same story here -- +7, so you need a 8:

Claus: 4

Nope.
*** CHECK ***

-- and it shoots past the wolf and ricochets off the stalagmite, landing uselessly in the rubble nearby.

The wolves are still struggling against their chains --

*** CHECK ***
A 15 or above to loosen the iron rod.

Wolf 1: 9
Wolf 2: 1
*** CHECK ***

-- but the iron rod are not budging.

>>> @Don't panic it's your turn.
 
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>>> Typo; I did roll a d8.

Figuring the others will take care of the barely-alive wolf, you decide to aim for the unharmed wolf snapping and spitting at you. Raising your arrow -- and muttering an oath -- you let loose another arrow --

*** CHECK ***
Same story here -- +5, so you need a 8:

Claus: 4

Nope.
*** CHECK ***

-- and it shoots past the wolf and ricochets off the stalagmite, landing uselessly in the rubble nearby.

The wolves are still struggling against their chains --

*** CHECK ***
A 15 or above to loosen the iron rod.

Wolf 1: 9
Wolf 2: 1
*** CHECK ***

-- but the iron rod are not budging.

>>> @Don't panic it's your turn.
> enough of this wimpy stuff!
* Count bartholomeus readies his Greataxe and moves in on the unhurt wolf
 
> enough of this wimpy stuff!
* Count bartholomeus readies his Greataxe and moves in on the unhurt wolf
Annoyed by how pathetic this battle is, you decide to just end it. Shouting, you take out your greataxe and march up the stairs towards the unharmed wolf, raise the axe --

*** CHECK ***
Same story -- you get +5, so:

Bartholomeus: 8

Ooh, and so the damage is 1d12 + 3, so:

Bartholomeus: 10

You insta-kill the wolf.
*** CHECK ***

-- and bring it down upon the wolf's neck. The head flew off, bouncing down the stairs and into the stream. As its head floated away into the woods, the wolf's body takes a few sideway steps before falling over to its side.

>>> @twietee let's finish this!
 
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Cursed die :D.

Say to the Count: Your javelins throws are pretty strong. Maybe you should kill the fresh one and let the others finish off the wounded one.

Edit: Ninja'd again :).
I went with the greataxe because it 1d12+3, so if i hit there is possibility of a direct kill
Of course now i am engaged with them, so hopefully they don't get to attack back
Btw, portia can use sneak attack again, since i am close
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Annoyed by how pathetic this battle is, you decide to just end it. Shouting, you take out your greataxe and march up the stairs towards the unharmed wolf, raise the axe --

*** CHECK ***
Same story -- you get +5, so:

Bartholomeus: 8

Ooh, and so the damage is 1d12 + 3, so:

Bartholomeus: 10

You insta-kill the wolf.
*** CHECK ***

-- and bring it down upon the wolf's neck. The head flew off, bouncing down the stairs and into the stream. As its head floated away into the woods, the wolf's body takes a few sideway steps before falling over to its side.

>>> @twietee let's finish this!
that's what i am talking about!!! :D

>off with their heads!!
 
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I'm considering going up there to finish this creature with a head-butt..

..but since I don't know about my head-butt modifiers (should be an attack bonus of pobably +5 because: SURPRISE!)..

..I take my mighty warhammer "Grim Reaper's Wrath" , go up the stairs and..

..
wham.gif

After I finished off the beast, I will take back my handaxe, clean it thoroughly, and whistle a fine but slightly melancholic tune (think Morricone) while walking down the stairs again.
 
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