Deleting Stock Mac OS apps

[Jake4]

Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to delete stock MAC OS X apps like chess and etc. Thanks

 

[Nermal]

"sudo rm -r /Applications/Chess.app" should do it (although I haven't tested it). On the other hand, the bundled apps are usually fairly small so there is probably little benefit in doing so.

 

[KALLT]

"sudo rm -r /Applications/Chess.app" should do it (although I haven't tested it). On the other hand, the bundled apps are usually fairly small so there is probably little benefit in doing so.

This does not work anymore without disabling System Integrity Protection. You are right that deleting them has a negligible effect. These applications are often just front-ends for system frameworks that will remain in your libraries. This is certainly true for Safari, Dashboard, Mission Control, App Store and so forth. iBooks and Mail are among the biggest with about 50 MB each.

 

[Jake4]

This does not work anymore without disabling System Integrity Protection. You are right that deleting them has a negligible effect. These applications are often just front-ends for system frameworks that will remain in your libraries. This is certainly true for Safari, Dashboard, Mission Control, App Store and so forth. iBooks and Mail are among the biggest with about 50 MB each.

"sudo rm -r /Applications/Chess.app" should do it (although I haven't tested it). On the other hand, the bundled apps are usually fairly small so there is probably little benefit in doing so.

Do you guys know if deleting apps like pages, and etc since it allows me to. Would i be able to redownload it if i need it later on?

 

[KALLT]

Do you guys know if deleting apps like pages, and etc since it allows me to. Would i be able to redownload it if i need it later on?

You can only redownload programs that are in your purchase history at the App Store.

 

[Gregg2]

Why do you want to delete some apps? Maybe there is a better route to get to your goal.

 

[Nermal]

This does not work anymore without disabling System Integrity Protection.

Huh. That's beginning to sound like a design flaw. I understand trying to prevent accidental damage to the system, but when the root user can't delete a game then - in my opinion - it's quickly approaching the point of absurdity, especially when combined with needing to enter an administrator password to look at (not change!) last month's calendar in Sys Prefs.

I'm sure that all of Apple's permission changes made sense, one at a time, but it appears that someone needs to take a step back and look at the system as a whole. I did of course provide isolated examples, and it's not such a problem with every day usage... and I'm getting fairly off-topic so I think I'll stop now

 

[KALLT]

Huh. That's beginning to sound like a design flaw. I understand trying to prevent accidental damage to the system, but when the root user can't delete a game then - in my opinion - it's quickly approaching the point of absurdity, especially when combined with needing to enter an administrator password to look at (not change!) last month's calendar in Sys Prefs.

Maybe you should stop misusing the system-time setter as a calendar. That is not what you should use it for.

You can change the system date and time in that panel and it makes much sense why that would be restricted to administrators and be locked when not meant to be changed frequently. Manipulating the system time can have serious consequences, as we saw recently on iOS. An intruder could harm your device that way.

System Integrity Protection is supposed to protect the system as it is installed. That includes system applications, such as the utilities and applications like Safari or the App Store. A user can be assured that the application is always protected and therefore reliable. The only odd thing is that it extends to Chess.

 

[Nermal]

Maybe you should stop misusing the system-time setter as a calendar. That is not what you should use it for.

Right, but old habits are hard to break; until a couple of years ago, using the clock's menu was the easiest/quickest way to get to a calendar (and gives consistency with Windows, which I still use at work). Going back to Windows 95, that's about 20 years worth of "muscle memory" out the window for no personal benefit.

An intruder could harm your device that way.

In all honestly they'd be more likely to steal the whole computer than change the time

 

[KALLT]

Right, but old habits are hard to break; until a couple of years ago, using the clock's menu was the easiest/quickest way to get to a calendar (and gives consistency with Windows, which I still use at work). Going back to Windows 95, that's about 20 years worth of "muscle memory" out the window for no personal benefit.

That is like putting sudo in front of every Terminal command just because! Windows and bad habits.
Are the small calendar in sidebar of the Calendar application or the Dashboard widget too mainstream for you?

In all honestly they’d be more likely to steal the whole computer than change the time

Not just that kind of intruder, also the virtual kind. Also: what if you would accidentally change the date or time yourself?

 

[Nermal]

Are the small calendar in sidebar of the Calendar application or the Dashboard widget too mainstream for you?

Loading a whole app is a bit "overkill", but a Dashboard widget could work. I had no idea that you could put a calendar in there so it looks like it's time to do some research. Thanks for the tip!

Edit: Ohh, that Dashboard ... I was thinking of the slide-out thing on the right ("Today"), which unfortunately doesn't seem to allow it. In any case, I'll see whether I can train myself to use Dashboard.

I suppose I'm coming across as a complete idiot ... it's amazing how "set in your ways" you can become without realising it!

 

[KALLT]

Loading a whole app is a bit "overkill", but a Dashboard widget could work. I had no idea that you could put a calendar in there so it looks like it's time to do some research. Thanks for the tip!

Edit: Ohh, that Dashboard ... I was thinking of the slide-out thing on the right ("Today"), which unfortunately doesn't seem to allow it. In any case, I'll see whether I can train myself to use Dashboard.

These actually exist. Like this one: https://itunes.apple.com/app/quick-calendar/id1004514425. Lots of things in the App Store.

I suppose I'm coming across as a complete idiot

No comment. *walks away inconspicuously*