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bunnspecial

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NOTE: THIS IS NOT A SALES POST, just some idle pondering. If I decide to sell here or elsewhere, it will be handled through the appropriate channels.

Sitting here, looking around, I find myself with some increasing amounts of what I could call redundant F mount gear that is just not being used.

For a while, my go-to camera and lens combo was the D810 and 24-70mm f/2.8G. Even in 2023 and these pieces nearing 10 years old, this is still a very capable combo(albeit heavy, but there's not much getting around heavy f/2.8 zooms) and there's no real reason I coudn't still be using these.

Last summer/fall I went on a bit of an upgrade binge and first bought a D850(a long-time want) and the 24-70 f/2.8E VR(one I debated about for a while but don't regret pulling the trigger).

Potentially on the chopping block are the D810 and 24-70 f/2.8G.

In theory, the D800 would be the better one to sell. It's older, less polished than the D810, and louder. At the end of the day, though, ultimate performance is similar(in fact I've been using it a lot lately for P52 photos and other sales photos). It's splitting hairs, and even though it gives up a little in sharpness over the D810, it's actually cleaner at like-for-like ISOs and I see no significant difference at high ISO(other than the D800 having a lower max, but the sensor is mostly ISO-less so that's not a huge deal and neither is a great low light camera anyway). I also have some sentimental attachment to the D800, as it was a really significantly leap/outlay into digital for me(my first experience using a high end modern body, not older and/or lower end cameras). I bought my D800 as a "high mileage" body(~150K) and and some issues early on lead to some "deep" repairs and me opting to replace the shutter since we were already there. They reset the shutter count and it's showing less than 5K actuations. Still, though, it's a 150K body and looks it, although it still has a lot of life I think. I just feel it would be dishonest to sell based on shutter count alone, as to me that's analogous to replacing a car engine but ignoring the other ~200K miles of wear on the rest of the car.

The D810 would be the one to sell. Even though it's a "nicer" camera to use than the D800 with its more comfortable grip, cleaner images at base ISO(which is lower than the D800-ISO 64 vs. ISO 100), and slightly sharper thanks to the lack of an AA filter, and did I mention MUCH quieter than the loud and rattly D800, I don't know that it's enough to justify keeping both when I have one that's clearly better than the other two(the D850). Having the D800 and D810 made sense pre-D850. Mine's still nice and relatively low mileage-a little over 17K.

Next up of course is the 24-70 f/2.8G. I can make a case for keeping it-it's fully functional on the F6(and F5 and F100). It's also smaller and lighter than the E version, although both are big and heavy enough that I don't know if it's worth the bother. I have a 24-120mm f/2.8G VR that's decent-ish for when I want something smaller and lighter. At the same time, I appreciate VR on the E version(more than I thought I would when I bought it) and even using it back to the F4 isn't a terrible experience as I still get AF and am just limited to shooting wide open. For that matter I could throw it on a Nikon F and just remember it's wide open only. There again, on the F6, it's f/2.8 only but VR is fully functional and nice. That's kind of moot anyway as the 35-70mm f/2.8 is honestly a better match for most of my film cameras(and fully functional in all modes on all the AF film cameras, plus will meter on older MF cameras). At the end of the day, though, often on film I find myself grabbing fast primes instead, and the ability to use modern zooms is mostly just bag decluttering if I want to stick a DSLR and the F6 in the same bag.

So, what do you all think? I really think I should, and possibly re-invest toward something more useful...
 

OldMacs4Me

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You've made a good case for selling the 810. Besides sentiment it should bring a higher return than the 800.
As to lenses I'd base that decision on what you find yourself using the least. Especially when you have other options should you sell that lens or lenses.
 

Clix Pix

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One thing to realize, though, is that now the market is somewhat glutted by a lot of people selling off or trading in their old Nikon gear in order to purchase new mirrorless bodies and lenses (Nikon or other brands).... So you might not get as much $$$$ for whatever you decide to offer for trade-in or sale as you're hoping. Just saying....

Oh, almost forgot to say: back in my Nikon days the 24-70mm f/2.8 was one of my favorite lenses and when I made the switch to Sony, although they had a lens in that range available, reviews were kind of "meh" and so I held off since at that point I had other lenses in mind which took priority, anyway. Finally this past autumn Sony came out with an updated version of their 24-70mm and after some consideration, checking reviews and talking with others about the lens, I finally brought home a 24-70mm f/2.8 GM II and it is indeed a significant improvement over the earlier version and already is becoming one of my favorite lenses. It's just such a good, versatile range, and close-focusing to boot, which is very useful for the kind of shooting I like to do. I think if you put your Nikon one on the market it will be snapped up fairly quickly, as for all the same reasons, that is a gem of a lens, too.
 
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mollyc

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I'd probably sell the D810 since you are more emotionally attached to the D800 (I never felt the same about mine - mine was functional and "better" than my D700, but my D700 was (is, I still own it) magical).

I'd strongly consider keeping a 24-70 that works on your film cameras....I am unclear if your newer one does or not. I kind of miss having a 24-70 for my film body and travel, as I sold mine before I moved to film and of course my Z mount isn't compatible with the film bodies. I have a number of F mounts remaining, though, so I'm not lacking lenses for the F100 in anyway. I mean, really primes are probably much better for film since you can open them more if needed when the light is low and you obviously can't change the ISO of film.

But I agree that having two 24-70s is kind of pointless overall. So in the end, after thinking while typing, I'd be inclined to sell the D810 and the older 24-70 and put that money towards something you will use more, even if it isn't camera gear.
 

bunnspecial

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Thanks everyone for the insight, and I think I have decided to sell.

Part of my motivation to quit thinking about it is I know F mount prices have softened quite a bit from when I bought these, but I still would like to(obviously) get as much as I can.

As film compatibility goes-the new 24-70E has limited compatibility on film as it can only be used at f/2.8, although VR works on later high-end film bodies(F5, F6, N80, and F100). Funny enough, though, it's actually moderately useable on any film body back to the F as long as you're okay with only f/2.8. The older G version gives full compatibility with above cameras, plus some lower end newer film bodies. It also offers some degree of compatibility on the F4 and N90, although only P and S modes(and AE works on the N8008 but not AF). Isn't Nikon compatibility fun?

I do have the really nice 35-70mm f/2.8, which is a screwdriver-focus lens and works on any AF film camera. It will also meter on any AI film camera. I don't plan on getting rid of this one.

So, now to photograph and list
 
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cSalmon

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if you don't have success selling, or it becomes frustrating with nothing more than lowball offers here are some other options. Send it off and have it turned it into an IR camera, use it as a timelapse camera, abuse it like a red headed stepchild; rain no problem, going kayaking - boating who needs protection, blizzard meh, burning man dustbowl let me wipe the lens off with my sleeve.
 
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