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DIY Thunderbolt 3 SSD

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I made a video showing how to build your own fast external NVMe SSD:


I am using this setup with a Macbook Pro and will continue to use it as a boot drive with the new Mac Mini. I am thinking that it is the best way to get a fast and large SSD without becoming poor at the same time.
  • Sonnet Echo Express SEL TB3 enclosure: 200$
  • Samsung EVO 970 2TB: 545$ (227$ for 1TB)
  • PCIe adapter card: 21$
Not long ago NVMEe USB enclosures become available. Has anybody tried one of them yet? I don't think that they will be as reliable as a Thunderbolt solution (no TRIM support?). But I am interested in knowing more...so please tell us about your experiences!

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I actually just ordered this one and sent it back. It worked good, but I didn't want to spend the money for it yet. I used it to copy my data off my m.2 nvme drive (samsung 970 evo 1tb) to an external SSD so I could transfer to my new MBP when it comes in. The PC that was in died so I had to get something to get my data off it. It worked great and was very fast.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G96D4XF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You need a TB3 enclosure over a TB2. Do they not have one somewhere? For what I needed the above worked, and I'm sure it is fast enough for most people for the price. Easily 1000+ R&W
 
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I actually got my Mac mini 2018 i7 and the performance of all SSD drives is better.
 
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does an NVME M.2 SSD via a thunderbolt 3 enclosure like the one above or the TekQ Rapide support TRIM? i have a new 2018 Mac Mini with 256gb storage. currently, for extra storage, i'm using a Samsung 860 EVO SSD in a USB-C, USB 3.1 gen 2 enclosure. But the read/write speed tops out at ~400 MB/s and i can definitely notice this difference in speed when i'm accessing a large Lightroom catalog that is stored on my external SSD.
 
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im going to be building something similar. I think im going to get the OWC Express 4m2 for the enclosure... I also get a decent deal on the EVO970's through work with login ($449) for the 2TB 970 evos. I can start out with one drive (wont be as fast) but then add the others as time goes on or when I need it.
 
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vexingv said:
does an NVME M.2 SSD via a thunderbolt 3 enclosure like the one above or the TekQ Rapide support TRIM? i have a new 2018 Mac Mini with 256gb storage. currently, for extra storage, i'm using a Samsung 860 EVO SSD in a USB-C, USB 3.1 gen 2 enclosure. But the read/write speed tops out at ~400 MB/s and i can definitely notice this difference in speed when i'm accessing a large Lightroom catalog that is stored on my external SSD.
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The drive appears for macOS like an internal NVMe drive with the same features as the internal one.
 
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vexingv said:
But the read/write speed tops out at ~400 MB/s
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USB 3.1G2 will definitely do more than that. I'd check in System Information (about this mac > system report) and check the USB device tree - check that your device is running at 10Gbit/sec.

Oh. I just looked up the 860. That's your bottleneck right there. Samsung only claim it'll do a little over 500MB/sec. A different SATA SSD won't help, as they're all limited to SATA6G speeds.

If you have the M2 version (and thus an M2 case) a different SSD would help.

A USB3.1G2 case using an NVMe M2 gives me roughly double what you're getting now. (700/900 write/read).
 
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How is the heat dissipation of this one?
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the enclosure is hot, you can touch it while using it, but its very hot.
so i recon head dissipation is efficient.
drive idles around 50 degrees celsius, and goes up to 70 when under load, supposedly normal.
 
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Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with Vantec USB3.1G2 NVMe cases? This has popped up as available via a local retailer quite cheaply, and I'm wondering if its worth trying (I currently have an NVMe sitting in an unreliable Orico case that I haven't sent back yet.
 
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DRDR said:
I made a video showing how to build your own fast external NVMe SSD:


I am using this setup with a Macbook Pro and will continue to use it as a boot drive with the new Mac Mini. I am thinking that it is the best way to get a fast and large SSD without becoming poor at the same time.
  • Sonnet Echo Express SEL TB3 enclosure: 200$
  • Samsung EVO 970 2TB: 545$ (227$ for 1TB)
  • PCIe adapter card: 21$
Not long ago NVMEe USB enclosures become available. Has anybody tried one of them yet? I don't think that they will be as reliable as a Thunderbolt solution (no TRIM support?). But I am interested in knowing more...so please tell us about your experiences!

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Hello,

I have followed your instructions and bought a Sonnet Echo-EXP-SE2 Echo Express SE II Thunderbolt 2, a DELOCK PCIe x4 > 1 x M.2 NGFF and the 970 Evo Plus from Samsung. The system initiates the new SSD but when I want to use the SSD the SSD is not available anymore and disappears from the disk manager and Finder. I can restart the Sonnet or the MacPro and then the SSD is back again but only for the moment.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Radiomachen
 
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Radiomachen

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I received a response from Sonnet that the 970 Evo Plus from Samsung is not working in their products!
 
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There was a firmware update in January or so that is needed for Mac compatibility with the 970 Evo Plus. Make sure you’re running that.
 
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Botts85 said:
For anyone looking at doing this today, the Samsung X5 is definitely the unit to buy. It's $199 USD with a 500GB SSD.

It comes with a Samsung 970, or you can sell the 970 easily and put in a different SSD.

I just spent a day looking at all the TB3 to NVME enclosures, and the X5 is definitely the ticket.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Portable-SSD-Thunderbolt-MU-PB1T0B/dp/B07GBGG68L/
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Did the same. Waiting for it to arrive

Botts85 said:
For anyone looking at doing this today, the Samsung X5 is definitely the unit to buy. It's $199 USD with a 500GB SSD.

It comes with a Samsung 970, or you can sell the 970 easily and put in a different SSD.

I just spent a day looking at all the TB3 to NVME enclosures, and the X5 is definitely the ticket.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Portable-SSD-Thunderbolt-MU-PB1T0B/dp/B07GBGG68L/
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Did get the X5. Waiting patiently
 
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