iPad Dizziness and cyber sickness from new ipad air 4

[Danny4587]

Hello,

I have bought new iPad Air 4 and I am experiencing motion sickness, dizziness, feeling like to vomit.

I am using iPad only for work stuff no video games or movies. Just using browser, evernote and notability with apple pencil.
I have already tried:

1. Very low brightness
2. True tone
3. Contrast settings
4. Using night mode
5. Disabling all motions (helps little bit)

In work I am using 8x 1080p monitors with 60mhz with no problem or motion sickness. I have iphone SE(2020) and apple watch 6 and also I have no problem. But after I have started using ipad air I can feel it in 5-10minutes.

I would like to ask about advice.

I am thinking about returning ipad air 4 and maybe buying ipad Pro (because of 120mhz screen) or wait for probably new ipad with possibility of Mini LED screen.


Does anyone have some experience with this problem? Could higher refresh rate display help? Or maybe potential Mini LED would solve this issue?

Thank you

 

[Allan in T.Dot]

It is possible the device is sitting too low causing stress on the neck and the arteries feeding the brain.

 

[snipr125]

Some people do get PWM symptoms from Apples LCD liquid retina displays which are on the iphone XR,11, Ipad Pro 2018/2020 and the Ipad Air 4. Something to do with dithering. If you get the Pro then you will likely get the same issue.

 

[Gandek]

Zollotech on YouTube has some videos about this topic but he mostly mentions iPhones and PWM.

 

[loybond]

Try max brightness and see if it affects you still

 

[rovex]

It is possible the device is sitting too low causing stress on the neck and the arteries feeding the brain.

That's an interesting one. Do you have any reading material on that ?

 

[Danny4587]

Thank you,
I did some research and I will try reduce white point to 100% and set brightness to 70% +/-

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[AutomaticApple]

Thank you,
I did some research and I will try reduce white point to 100% and set brightness to 70% +/-

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Where did you do your research? Just curious...

 

[seangrimes590]

Are you using it in landscape or portrait? The images are drawn top to bottom (portrait orientation) and when scrolling in landscape the right side of the screen is ever so slightly delayed from the left side. My parents don't notice at all, my wife starts turning green using it in landscape but can and does use it for multiple hours a day in portrait. I generally don't even notice it unless I've had a very long day in front of a computer and my eyes are tired. Promotion might help alleviate this but I don't have one to test with.

Watch the full video, gets more noticeable (only 45 seconds):

Significantly more obvious:

 

[Whoakapi]

I’m not a doctor, but if you are experience sickness from using a tablet, you cannot fix it by fiddling with technical setting. Go see a doctor.

 

[seangrimes590]

I’m not a doctor, but if you are experience sickness from using a tablet, you cannot fix it by fiddling with technical setting. Go see a doctor.

Are you unfamiliar with pwm flicker? OLED issue rather than LCD in most cases but an obvious counterpoint to your flippant and ignorant comment.

 

[arobert3434]

Are you using it in landscape or portrait? The images are drawn top to bottom (portrait orientation) and when scrolling in landscape the right side of the screen is ever so slightly delayed from the left side. My parents don't notice at all, my wife starts turning green using it in landscape but can and does use it for multiple hours a day in portrait. I generally don't even notice it unless I've had a very long day in front of a computer and my eyes are tired. Promotion might help alleviate this but I don't have one to test with.

Watch the full video, gets more noticeable (only 45 seconds):

Significantly more obvious:

That IS very noticeable, but I believe you are seeing the effects of software (Safari's rendering algorithm for scrolling) rather than anything happening at 60 hertz. It might be worth reporting the issue to Apple, and possibly trying Firefox or another browser. (Although they might all use the same underlying HTML engine so that might not make any difference.)

 

[Whoakapi]

Are you unfamiliar with pwm flicker? OLED issue rather than LCD in most cases but an obvious counterpoint to your flippant and ignorant comment.

You are invalidating your so-called counterpoint by referring to OLED tech which the iPads don’t use.

 

[NT1440]

It is possible the device is sitting too low causing stress on the neck and the arteries feeding the brain.

I think this is the likely culprit. Think about the ergonomics of how you’re using the iPad, you may be craning your neck downward more than you’re aware of.

My mother’s chin basically tucks into her neck anytime I go over there and see her using hers, which is terrible for neck/nerve pain which may be triggering your symptoms without you being aware of it.

Basically, use it as you normally do, then consciously take a minute to think about your posture and see if you’re more slumped than with your other devices.

 

[Richard8655]

Another possibility is staring at a screen close to your eyes for long periods. I've experienced this with my iPad 5. Health professionals advise to take breaks and look at distant objects/scenes to relax and relieve eye strain, which can have adverse affects like dizziness and disorientation.