Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
DND while driving - I'm not driving!
- Thread starter skillwill
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Instead of the way it currently works in detecting you are in a moving car, here are a few ways that could make this work more magically:
1) Detect when you are connected to the bluetooth in your car
2) Allow you to press a button to engage DnD manually
Both of those happen to already be options.
1) Detect when you are connected to the bluetooth in your car
2) Allow you to press a button to engage DnD manually
Both of those happen to already be options.
Damn you, I was typing that up.
Yep...the bluetooth connection should be a pre-requisite...and allow you to setup that preference once. (mind you, then it also goes into DND if you're a passenger in your own vehicle - but you should be cognizant enough to go and temporarily disable it if you want to use your phone).
1st DND whilst driving notification this morning, when I drove/parked and checked my SE.
Maybe it was before I started driving -I’ll re check in a few days.
Maybe it was before I started driving -I’ll re check in a few days.
I believe it actually does use a set of known access points as a supplementary indicator.
You can. A few posts above yours someone explained how.
I’ve been using iOS 11 for the past ~3 months, turned off this feature, and haven’t seen it since. I’m not sure what to tell those people who get the pop up other than to make sure it’s actually on manual.
Unfortunately, this doesn’t shock me at all. Some of he strangest bordering on dumbest things I ever read come from this board.
I think you missed this part of my post: "Both of those happen to already be options."
Obviously you want a debate and I believe deep down you're simply playing devil's advocate. So I'll give you my argument for why it has been released in the manner that it's been released and see how you counter it.
Apple could be currently working on a solution to disable phones when and only when someone is in the driver's seat. However, they have the ability to detect when someone might be driving so they've released it to the public in order to potentially save lives. Is it right for them to withhold this tech from the public because it might inconvenience people who ride the bus or sit in the passenger seat while they work for the next few years at making it the perfect solution? I'd argue that this would be unethical of them and based on Apple's public moral stance it's one of the reasons I believe they developed this feature in the first place.
Of course we can't come up with a way to make the iPhone know when you're sitting in the driver's seat. Maybe we never will, but I bet Apple has at least thought about this, and may be in the process of trying to develop a better solution. Just because it's not perfect doesn't mean it's not valuable to a lot of people.
Apple could be currently working on a solution to disable phones when and only when someone is in the driver's seat. However, they have the ability to detect when someone might be driving so they've released it to the public in order to potentially save lives. Is it right for them to withhold this tech from the public because it might inconvenience people who ride the bus or sit in the passenger seat while they work for the next few years at making it the perfect solution? I'd argue that this would be unethical of them and based on Apple's public moral stance it's one of the reasons I believe they developed this feature in the first place.
Of course we can't come up with a way to make the iPhone know when you're sitting in the driver's seat. Maybe we never will, but I bet Apple has at least thought about this, and may be in the process of trying to develop a better solution. Just because it's not perfect doesn't mean it's not valuable to a lot of people.
I guess this is one detriment to the change that most carmakers are doing now - you don't need to insert the fob into the dash anymore. If it's in the car, you can start it. Had they kept the old way, we could have kept individual driver settings per fob (seat position, mirror adjustments) - and a notification to CarPlay as to who is in the driver seat, so only their iPhone is flipped into DND.
Maybe they'll put a weight sensor into the driver seat to be able to identify the different members of the household.
Most newer cars have sensors to determine if someone is in the seat, surprised those aren't being used somehow.
Guess it's all a moot point really, plenty of studies show that even the radio or talking to passengers is distracting, so I suppose the only real way to fix the problem is self-driving cars.
Many people use phones as Sat Nav, it's actively encouraged in some of the newer budget models with cradles etc so simply saying phones shouldn't be used in cars isn't realistic. I don't think it's a helpful addition really, just nannying. I'd prefer to see a ban on smoking since eating is now disallowed (UK) as well as phones - I think igniting and having something literally on fire in your hand that can be dropped should be the first thing on the list to go!
Apple just lost its way—it’s just ridiculous that the iPhone can’t read my mind and do what I want it to do before I even pick it up.
The thing I found remarkable about this thread..after reading all posts..is that the OP, once presented with reasonable explanations that a phone inside of a moving vehicle cannot determine of the phone owner is driving or riding and thus requires a UI to indicate which is which, continued for 2 pages to defend this position. I understand the OPs DESIRE to have this amazing feature where the phone would just know by geopositional sensors if you are in the driver seat, or 3 feet over in the passenger seat. However, due to the impracticable nature of this, a simple press of a button to indicate if you are driving or not is all that is required, yet it's not 'good enough'. I, too, thought this was a joke until the continual defense.
Well I can only apologise and hold my hands up! Isn't that what this board is also for, I'm not afraid to learn something new - wasn't(/didn't mean to) arguing it didn't work, just that it was sloppy implementation=worse UX. But as people have pointed out you can disable it!
I guess at least it gave people a good laugh
It’s a feature you can turn off. I don’t get the big deal.
Good thing it’s enabled by default, maybe it will encourage more people not to text and drive. Sorry for the two second annoyance of having to go into settings to disable it OP, I feel bad, I really do.
Good thing it’s enabled by default, maybe it will encourage more people not to text and drive. Sorry for the two second annoyance of having to go into settings to disable it OP, I feel bad, I really do.
Cars have acceleration patterns very different from those of buses. It is definitely possible.I'm still trying to understand how the OP thinks that Apple should be able to determine what you are riding in or if you are driving.
