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Cars have acceleration patterns very different from those of buses. It is definitely possible.

Really? You can ride in a car as well. But then you'll probably say something just as inane as 'passenger seats sit 2.3 cm to the left of the engine block, thus allowing the air flow to indicate if you are a passenger or driver'. Will this ever end?
 
Coming Soon!

Make Do Not Disturb While Driving work the way we all know Steve would have required!

Presenting, Apple's "Am I Driving?" Touch ID-enabled Steering Wheel Cover!

It's name at release is generating more buzz than a queen bee starting her hive! Potential names:
  • iDrive (tossed out because it's already been used)
  • iSteer (tossed out because some thought Apple was getting into GMO cattle)
  • SteerPod (See above... also, vaguely reminiscent of "Aliens")
  • iWheel Pro and the iWheel (the iWheel only has one spot that register's your touch, and you need a special pair of gloves for it to pick up the contact. The gloves are called Finger Dongles)
If you touch it, you're driving.

Estimated retail price: $549 for the standard model, $849 for the Pro model. Finger Dongles could start at $199 for a one-handed model, or $399 for the pair

Face ID rumored to be not far behind, but expect a premium price tag!

Colors expected:
  • Space Gray
  • Space Grey (complete with Bergamot scent, introductory refill subscription priced at $24.99 per month)
  • Silvered Coppery Bronze Gold-Plated Platinum
  • Rose Gold
  • Golden Rose
  • Jet Black
  • Octopus Onyx
 
Coming Soon!

Make Do Not Disturb While Driving work the way we all know Steve would have required!

Presenting, Apple's "Am I Driving?" Touch ID-enabled Steering Wheel Cover!

It's name at release is generating more buzz than a queen bee starting her hive! Potential names:
  • iDrive (tossed out because it's already been used)
  • iSteer (tossed out because some thought Apple was getting into GMO cattle)
  • SteerPod (See above... also, vaguely reminiscent of "Aliens")
  • iWheel Pro and the iWheel (the iWheel only has one spot that register's your touch, and you need a special pair of gloves for it to pick up the contact. The gloves are called Finger Dongles)
If you touch it, you're driving.

Estimated retail price: $549 for the standard model, $849 for the Pro model. Finger Dongles could start at $199 for a one-handed model, or $399 for the pair

Face ID rumored to be not far behind, but expect a premium price tag!

Colors expected:
  • Space Gray
  • Space Grey (complete with Bergamot scent, introductory refill subscription priced at $24.99 per month)
  • Silvered Coppery Bronze Gold-Plated Platinum
  • Rose Gold
  • Golden Rose
  • Jet Black
  • Octopus Onyx

Best post in the entire thread.

Bravo good sir. Bravo.
 
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Are we really comparing orientation detection with guessing if you are on the right or left (and country detection to determine where the driver sits)?

What’s hilarious is even if it could detect whether you’re on the right or left, you could be sitting behind the driver in a car or bus haha
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I feel like once this becomes possible and happens (in the future, if ever), OP will be the first to complain about how Apple is spying on its customers to see where they are sitting in a car and Steve wouldn’t have allowed such an invasion of privacy.
 
Cars have acceleration patterns very different from those of buses. It is definitely possible.

Seriously? You think ALL buses have an acceleration pattern different to ALL cars under ALL circumstances?

I think the ability to use BT connection as defining "driving", the manual confirmation and the ability to disable the feature cover the expected use cases, but then this thread provided those on page 1 I think...seriously good fun though! :)
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What’s hilarious is even if it could detect whether you’re on the right or left, you could be sitting behind the driver in a car or bus haha
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I feel like once this becomes possible and happens (in the future, if ever), OP will be the first to complain about how Apple is spying on its customers to see where they are sitting in a car and Steve wouldn’t have allowed such an invasion of privacy.

Thats not good enough :) what happens in Europe if you take your French car and drive it to the UK? Man this feature is useless until it <just knows> hahaha
 
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Thats feature is not working for me. I selected the auto but when i'm driving, DND not activating
 
Not in city traffic.
Yeah, it's a lot more difficult to distinguish in busy traffic (unless the bus is in an HOV lane). One thing that could be done to help here is looking at prior movement data. If a person take a bus, they typically have to walk to the nearest bus stop and then wait for a bus there. But I'm not sure if Apple stores this much data. I guess the best way would be for Siri to ask if the person is driving or not whenever there is an incoming call. That's the kind of functionality that Siri needs to acquire in the future.
 
Okay, so how would you determine if somone is on a bus or in a car driving?

One method might be to only enable Do Not Disturb when your phone connects to your car (if your car is so equipped, as most are in the past few years).

In any case, the fact that it works so poorly makes it far less useful to anyone.
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You jest, but if you want your front airbag to turn off in a Mercedes because you are using a child seat you have to buy the Merc seat which has some kind of transponder in it...

Modern cars have weight sensors that disable the airbag until someone of a certain weight is sitting there.

You'll see an indicator come on to indicate it's disabled when the seat detects someone is present but is not heavy enough.
 
I feel like once this becomes possible and happens (in the future, if ever), OP will be the first to complain about how Apple is spying on its customers to see where they are sitting in a car and Steve wouldn’t have allowed such an invasion of privacy.

Hah no if it ever happens I will dig this thread back out though and say I told you so - it’s classic Mac Rumors. Same way news sites regularly dig out the embarrassing iPod launch thread in which all the experts on here were certain “this will never take off”.
 
One method might be to only enable Do Not Disturb when your phone connects to your car (if your car is so equipped, as most are in the past few years).

In any case, the fact that it works so poorly makes it far less useful to anyone.
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Modern cars have weight sensors that disable the airbag until someone of a certain weight is sitting there.

You'll see an indicator come on to indicate it's disabled when the seat detects someone is present but is not heavy enough.

Mine does not and now you are wanting your phone to be directly tied and talking to your car? That also opens the door for a hacker or police etc, to shut your car off if they please or even unlock it at will. Still, what if you and your partner get in the car and they have control of your phone? They still have disable it. My wife and I pass our phones back and forth depending on who is driving.

You have some good ideas, but it is still flawed a little. FYI, my original feedback was to get the OP to think.;)
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Cars have acceleration patterns very different from those of buses. It is definitely possible.

Yeah, my guess is that they are subtle and you are asking for a phone to try and measure that. Buses do accelerate slower normally (unless you are here in Germany where they move as quickly as a car). Ever had your car in traffic? What happens then?

What about the bus driver?

I can come up with a lot of ways that wouldn't work. That being said, it is still an idea worth looking at.

My thing is this... If everyone is putting in all this effort, why not just pick up your phone in the first place? It is actually pretty simple. I turn music on and that put the phone down.
 
Okay, so how would you determine if somone is on a bus or in a car driving?

Pretty easy. Apple maps has bus routes and stop locations. If you're following a bus route and stopping at bus stops then switch it off, increase the chances of it being disabled if you gave been stationary at a bus stop (ie waiting) beforehand. It wouldn't work in all circumstances but at least it would cut down on false positives.
 
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Pretty easy. Apple maps has bus routes and stop locations. If you're following a bus route and stopping at bus stops then switch it off, increase the chances of it being disabled if you gave been stationary at a bus stop (ie waiting) beforehand. It wouldn't work in all circumstances but at least it would cut down on false positives.


Again, it would but it would also unlock the bus drivers phone. ;) I also travel by car bus routes to work, so how would the phone know I was in a car versus the bus?

Bottom line is that you still have to have some kind of interaction with the software to make it work like the OP wanted. Frankly I have it turned off because I know that being on a phone while driving is dangerous. Also, if I get caught here in Germany on the phone, I will lose my license and that bus will become mandatory.
 
One method might be to only enable Do Not Disturb when your phone connects to your car (if your car is so equipped, as most are in the past few years).
As noted earlier in the thread, this is already an option in the settings!
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Pretty easy. Apple maps has bus routes and stop locations. If you're following a bus route and stopping at bus stops then switch it off, increase the chances of it being disabled if you gave been stationary at a bus stop (ie waiting) beforehand. It wouldn't work in all circumstances but at least it would cut down on false positives.
In city driving the distinction between a car stopping and a bus stopping at stops would more likely result in false negatives. The phone's GPS resolution just isn't that precise.
 
Instead of the way it currently works in detecting you are in a moving car, here are a few ways that could make this work more magically:

1) Detect when you are connected to the bluetooth in your car

2) Allow you to press a button to engage DnD manually

Both of those happen to already be options.

But but but... what if you're inside the car, connected to the bluetooth of said car, but NOT driving?! Seriously, Apple should figure this out! :rolleyes:
 
What if you are in a plane that is on a convair belt and I’m eating pasta a 100 miles away while a monkey is remote controlling the plane while playing a banjo??
 
What if you are in a plane that is on a convair belt and I’m eating pasta a 100 miles away while a monkey is remote controlling the plane while playing a banjo??

Just calculate whether you're driving by dividing the inverse square root of the moisture of the pasta divided by the smell of the bathroom after a 12 hour flight

- Steve "The Magic Man" Jobs
 
Change the settings so it only activates when it detects that you’re connected to in-car Bluetooth. The ‘while moving’ option is garbage because it will activate whenever you’re in a moving vehicle. No idea why they thought that was a good idea.
 
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Change the settings so it only activates when it detects that you’re connected to in-car Bluetooth. The ‘while moving’ option is garbage because it will activate whenever you’re in a moving vehicle. No idea why they thought that was a good idea.

Not all cars have bluetooth. Even those that get retrofitted probably won't be recognized as vehicles.
 
Well it should definitely be able to recognize when you are on a train and not in a car base on gps and maps. Problem is it still doesn’t do that. But it is not a deal breaker. Too many other issues with iOS to care about this nonsense.
 
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How does one COMPLETELY disable it. I have it set to Manually (I can't set it to when connected to car bluetooth, because well I don't want it when I'm driving), and it still keeps prompting me. The best was when it prompted me last night while I was sitting on my couch watching TV. How about an actual DISABLED option!
 
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