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DND while driving - I'm not driving!

JustinRP37 said:
Well it should definitely be able to recognize when you are on a train and not in a car base on gps and maps. Problem is it still doesn’t do that. But it is not a deal breaker. Too many other issues with iOS to care about this nonsense.
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Running the GPS and the cellular connection constantly to check if you're currently on a train track is a great solution with no possible downsides. Come on Tim, you're passing up on some real genius engineering solutions right here on the Macrumors forums!
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zaphon said:
How does one COMPLETELY disable it. I have it set to Manually (I can't set it to when connected to car bluetooth, because well I don't want it when I'm driving), and it still keeps prompting me. The best was when it prompted me last night while I was sitting on my couch watching TV. How about an actual DISABLED option!
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Manual is disabled. It won't go on under any circumstance other than you turning it on. It's not checking for Bluetooth. It's not checking your speed. It's not checking anything.
 
Feenician said:
Manual is disabled. It won't go on under any circumstance other than you turning it on. It's not checking for Bluetooth. It's not checking your speed. It's not checking anything.
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FALSE, it's been set to Manually since Tuesday and I have been prompted to enable it no less than 5 times since then. Hence why I asked, how does one ACTUALLY disable it. But thanks for playing!
 
Feenician said:
Just calculate whether you're driving by dividing the inverse square root of the moisture of the pasta divided by the smell of the bathroom after a 12 hour flight

- Steve "The Magic Man" Jobs
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I can’t drive and eat pasta at the same time, that is illegal on Mars. But I am riding an unicycle.
 
zaphon said:
FALSE, it's been set to Manually since Tuesday and I have been prompted to enable it no less than 5 times since then. Hence why I asked, how does one ACTUALLY disable it. But thanks for playing!
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If you say so my friend.
 
zaphon said:
FALSE, it's been set to Manually since Tuesday and I have been prompted to enable it no less than 5 times since then. Hence why I asked, how does one ACTUALLY disable it. But thanks for playing!
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Man that sucks. I’ve had mine set to manual for a few months and it never comes on.
 
daflake said:
Mine does not and now you are wanting your phone to be directly tied and talking to your car? That also opens the door for a hacker or police etc, to shut your car off if they please or even unlock it at will. Still, what if you and your partner get in the car and they have control of your phone? They still have disable it. My wife and I pass our phones back and forth depending on who is driving.

You have some good ideas, but it is still flawed a little. FYI, my original feedback was to get the OP to think.;)
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Yeah, my guess is that they are subtle and you are asking for a phone to try and measure that. Buses do accelerate slower normally (unless you are here in Germany where they move as quickly as a car). Ever had your car in traffic? What happens then?

What about the bus driver?

I can come up with a lot of ways that wouldn't work. That being said, it is still an idea worth looking at.

My thing is this... If everyone is putting in all this effort, why not just pick up your phone in the first place? It is actually pretty simple. I turn music on and that put the phone down.
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Hey, I don't disagree. This feature is as half-baked and poorly thought-out as most of what I see from Apple these days.

I'd sooner use control centre to manually enable do not disturb when I approach the car than have it constantly guess when I might be driving.
 
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Feenician said:
Running the GPS and the cellular connection constantly to check if you're currently on a train track is a great solution with no possible downsides. Come on Tim, you're passing up on some real genius engineering solutions right here on the Macrumors forums!
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Manual is disabled. It won't go on under any circumstance other than you turning it on. It's not checking for Bluetooth. It's not checking your speed. It's not checking anything.
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I sense sarcasm in your post. You do realize that to check whether you are moving, it is using your GPS already right? It continuously monitors your motion so that pretty much as soon as you stop driving it disables. Not exactly hard to determine. There are apps already that can track this type of motion out there. Lifecycle is one of them. It is just a suggestion they could do. Phone could easily check to see if it was by train tracks. As it is now it really isn't hard to just push the "I'm not driving" button. But it would be good if it could 'learn' this route and begin to know if you are not driving it. That really isn't that hard of a programming feat.
 
JustinRP37 said:
I sense sarcasm in your post. You do realize that to check whether you are moving, it is using your GPS already right? It continuously monitors your motion so that pretty much as soon as you stop driving it disables. Not exactly hard to determine. There are apps already that can track this type of motion out there. Lifecycle is one of them.
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It’s using the accelerometer. That is on all the time. If it was actually using your GPS all day every day it wouldn’t last long. Even when it does use the GPS For the lower frequency geofencing checks and so it’s not downloading maps to see what type of terrain you’re on.
 
Feenician said:
It’s using the accelerometer. That is on all the time. If it was actually using your GPS all day every day it wouldn’t last long. Even when it does use the GPS For the lower frequency geofencing checks and so it’s not downloading maps to see what type of terrain you’re on.
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Actually you aren't quite right about it but it turns out this feature will improve using machine learning over time:

The driving mode uses a number of signals, such as the iPhone's accelerometer, the rate at which it finds and loses nearby Wi-Fi networks, and GPS to try to detect when it thinks you are driving.

Because it is turned on by default and is activated automatically, it may affect public transport users and passengers. The feature is likely to get more accurate over time as Apple gets more data about who is and is not driving.
 
About Do Not Disturb while driving
Do Not Disturb while driving can automatically detect that you might be driving, and silences incoming notifications and keeps your iPhone screen dark. To keep you from waking your iPhone while you drive, notifications will not appear on the lock screen. You can configure a custom automatic reply in Messages for a group of people you define - your Favorites by default - so that you won’t feel pressured to immediately answer text messages. They also have the ability to mark a message as “urgent” on the chance that the notification needs to be let through.

Detection
A Bluetooth connection to a car provides the clearest indication that you are in a vehicle. When iPhone connects with your car’s handsfree system, Do Not Disturb while driving will start automatically, and will end when Bluetooth is disconnected. If your car does not have Bluetooth, iPhone uses other sources of information such as nearby Wi-Fi networks and the accelerometer to try to detect that you’re in the car. This does not provide the same level of accuracy as a Bluetooth connection, and may result in delays in starting or ending Do Not Disturb while driving.
In Do Not Disturb settings you can choose to activate automatically, only when connected to Bluetooth, or manually. You can start the feature manually from Control Center before your drive.
Since iPhone can only determine when you are in a vehicle and not whether you are a driver, there may be situations when Do Not Disturb while driving still becomes active when you happen to be a passenger, riding a bus, or other such situation. If that is the case, you can unlock your iPhone by telling it you are not driving, and iPhone will remain out of Do Not Disturb while driving until the end of the journey you are currently on.

Messages and alerts
Just like regular Do Not Disturb, some alerts will still activate normally even when Do Not Disturb while driving is active, such as emergency alerts, timers, and alarms. Messages on a thread marked as “urgent” from your predefined set of contacts will also be allowed for the duration of your drive.
You can customize who will receive automatic replies when they message you while Do Not Disturb while driving is active. Your Favorites will be selected by default. Choosing Recents will send auto replies to anyone you may have sent a message to that day or the day before - regardless of whether they are in your contact list. Contacts sends a message to any of your contacts, and you can disable the feature by choosing No One.

Phone calls
Phone calls follow the same behavior as standard Do Not Disturb; you can allow calls from your Favorites, and even enable Repeated Calls so that a second call from the same person within three minutes will not be silenced. If your car has a Bluetooth call kit, incoming phone calls will be routed through your car’s system, and will not be silenced. Use your steering wheel or car controls to complete your call when it is safe to do so.
Other features
When routing with Apple Maps, you will still have the same great lock screen experience on iPhone as before. If your car supports CarPlay and your iPhone is connected, Do Not Disturb while driving will not be activated.
Siri is a great way to keep your eyes on the road and your hands on the wheel. If you say “Hey Siri” to activate Siri while Do Not Disturb while driving is activated, Siri will provide you with information in such a way that you will not need to look at iPhone. Siri will read out all responses to you, and your iPhone will not display any text on it.
About Do Not Disturb and Privacy
Do Not Disturb While Driving uses Location Services to help determine if you may be driving or if you are near your home, work or a predicted destination. You can turn off Location Services for Do Not Disturb While Driving. To do so, open Settings, tap Privacy, tap Location Services, tap System Services, and slide the Location-Based Alerts switch to “off”.
 
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bilibug said:
All this bickering is senseless. The feature to automatically figure out if you are the driver or a passenger in a vehicle is a built-in feature of the forthcoming "A12 Psychic" processor chip.
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Pfffft. Apple design their silicon three years out, "A13 Pirates in Men's pants" and "A14 GhostJobs" is where is at.
 
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chrfr said:
As noted earlier in the thread, this is already an option in the settings!
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In city driving the distinction between a car stopping and a bus stopping at stops would more likely result in false negatives. The phone's GPS resolution just isn't that precise.
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I'm not sure where you live but in London (UK) Apple maps gets the locations of bus stops pretty much bang on.

I'm wondering if many people posting in the thread actually use public transport with any regularity.
 
steve23094 said:
I'm not sure where you live but in London (UK) Apple maps gets the locations of bus stops pretty much bang on.

I'm wondering if many people posting in the thread actually use public transport with any regularity.
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I do, daily. My point is that lots of cars are also passing in close proximity, and stopping near, bus stops.
 
On a serious note if we could for a moment.

My iphone has triggered DND option after i have driven for 5-15 min, engine off door open and im ready to get out of the car. This has happened 3 times so far over the past few days. It happened randomly, with out any indication or a specific pattern.

I dont use my phone while driving, except random times when i use GPS navigation, Google maps or Apple Maps. Both times i saw DND on the screen, i was not using any map software, the vehicle parked and engine off. I have an older vehicle, no Bluetooth.

My guess the feature is buggy and will need to mature.

On the other hand. With Android, you clearly get a message if you try to use Google Maps. It will ask you if you are a passenger or a driver.
 
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