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Do we know if the A11 chip will be more powerful than the A10X
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There are never details of their CPUs prior to launch. But Apples iPhone chips usually push the boundaries of what the market expects. So it's likely to be impressive
I think it'll probably beat the a10x in single core and lose out on multi-core, I feel like Apple will stick to a dual core for the phones processor. I could be wrong, but it would be a good improvement in performance without repeating the embarrassment of their phones being more powerful than their super-tablets (especially only a month or two after they were released).
That's pretty exciting. It sounds like the A10X is a beast, will be great to have something at least as powerful in the next iphones.
Generally a next generation CPU will always perform better than an existing generation. What's the point of releasing a new version otherwise?
The real interesting question is will Apple stick to radically improving dual core (like they did with the A9 after the A8X) or are they essentially capped at dual core now and will be forced to increase the cores in the phone? If it stays down at dual core and the A11x dropped and improved on that, the a10x will be the odd processor out like the a8x at the moment, and the talk about just how powerful it is would be a little out of place like when people try to tout the iPad Air 2's multi core because it just isn't relevant a good amount of time.
My understanding is that there was the original A10 chip, then a new A10X chip. I didn't know if the 'X' indicated it was some sort of iPad class chip that would have more performance than the equivalent A10 chip in the iPhone.
Only two cores operate at once. It's either the two high performance cores that you see in the benchmarks, or it's two low powered cores to save power. It does not run four at once. The a10x is a six core design but only three are ever active (3 performance 3 power saving).
Yes but their single cores are often far lower than what Apple has been Able to achieve, Apple is absolutely owning single core scores ATM and are matching their android competitions multi core with less cores. There are also android cpus that work like the a10 where some cores are regulated to low power tasks and some turn on during high performance. I believe android is even pushing 8 cores at once now in some cases.
Now that you say that, I remember reading some of that last year when the A10 was released.
Well, that's the kind of thoughtful engineering that makes Apple different I guess. Not just beefy specs but the best use of carefully designed hardware and software.
Remember, the A10X is manufactured on 10nm proces and the A10 is still 16nm.
If the A11 is made on 10nm and dual-core, it will be slower than A10X in both single and multi-core performance!
If the A11 is made on 10nm and dual-core, it will be slower than A10X in both single and multi-core performance!
unless Apple clocks the processor at more than 2.3
But it would be very interesting to see Apple do a higher clocked phone processor at the 10nm level than the iPad, but maybe Apple just wanted to be able to say that on multicore the iPad is like a laptop and went for more cores . Apples chips are fascinating.
But it would be very interesting to see Apple do a higher clocked phone processor at the 10nm level than the iPad, but maybe Apple just wanted to be able to say that on multicore the iPad is like a laptop and went for more cores . Apples chips are fascinating.Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
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