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shuweiyu16

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Just wondering if any of you guys out there foresee problems with the first batch of MBP's with Leopard, due to the addition of new hardware and etc. much like how many people on the message boards have complained how the 1st generation MB and MBP's have caused trouble.

i am asking because i will be purchasing a MBP in mid-June and I am just wondering whether I should purchase the new MBP with Leopard or the old MBP with Tiger, if I am already satisfied with the hardware settings in the current MBP's


any suggestion is appreciated
 

WillJS

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It may, it may not. But whatever happens.. :apple: willsurely fix it if it wasn't your causeing.
 

Xavier

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Like all 1st gen products, there are usually problems. They complain because they wanted it to work straight away and it didn't. But thats their choice.

I for one think that The MBP will be fine (newer versions), but Leopard will have a few bugs to work out. I frankly would like to see an upgrade for the MBP when Leopard is out.
 

Multimedia

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You Won't Be Buying Any Macs With Tiger Once Leopard Ships

Now why would you want to buy a new Mac without Leopard? :confused: :eek:

No matter what model you buy, it will come with a set of Leopard install DVDs. Those problems with first gen MacIntels are not likely to resurface now that they've figured out vent holes need to be big plus what they've learned in this first year of negative feedback.

I think the next rev is gonna be great and would encourage you to have the courage to buy the new model. You can put 4GB inside which is HUGE unless you think 2GB is plenty - I do not. In any event, I think looking back in the Fall you'll be super glad you bought new instead of old. I think the next ones are more likely to have even fewer problems than the current model much less the old 1st gen ones. Be brave. Don't be a sissy. :eek: ;)
 

Zwhaler

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I think the next ones are more likely to have even fewer problems than the current model much less the old 1st gen ones. Be brave. Don't be a sissy. :eek: ;)

I disagee. That's like saying the Core Duo Macs had less problems than the final generation G5s (G4s for the laptops), which certainly is not true.
 

Multimedia

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Santa Rosa Is Evolution Not Revolution

I disagee. That's like saying the Core Duo Macs had less problems than the final generation G5s (G4s for the laptops), which certainly is not true.
I'm not sure your analogy holds up. The Santa Rosa platform and the C2D processors that go into it are decendants of the current platform not a radically different family. :rolleyes: So we're not going from C2D to something completely different. The transition to Santa Rosa should be much less of a bumpy ride than those above. I certainly never said the first CD was less problematic than the last mobile G4s. Some with Quad G5s, like me, might say the completion of the transition on the top is still not complete until we get Dual Clovertown Mac Pros. It's well known that the Quad Mac Pro is insignificantly faster than a Quad G5. While you might say the Dual Clovertown 8 core Mac Pro is bound to have problems concurrent with the introduction of the next major upgrade of OS X, I would say just the opposite. Without Leopard's improved multi core multi thread management technology, an 8 core Mac Pro would not be ready for prime time.

I'll admit I'm a sucker for all new and improved models. But what happened in 2006 was only a precurser to this years full blown completion of the transition. Without Leopard and Adobe CS3, I think last year's models are running on an Intel version of a PPC centric system. Leopard should bring both families into a new ear of parity.
 

Zwhaler

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I'm not sure your analogy holds up. The Santa Rosa platform and the C2D processors that go into it are decendants of the current platform not a radically different family. :rolleyes:

I guess that's true, but it is still a new chipset, and with new technology, new issues usually come with it.
 

Multimedia

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Bumps Are Always A Little Bumpy. This Time I Think Will Be Less So.

I guess that's true, but it is still a new chipset, and with new technology, new issues usually come with it.
I didn't mean there won't be bumps. There are always bumps. But I don't think it'll be nearly as bumpy as it was last year. But who knows, I could certainly be wrong. Only the future will tell. I trust Apple to get it right. I guess I'm too much of a sucker for wanting the next big thing ASAP.
 

iW00t

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I guess that's true, but it is still a new chipset, and with new technology, new issues usually come with it.

What exactly is so new about it?

It is still Intel. Apart from the heat venting problems that occurred with the Rev A MBPs and the whining problems (probably no fault of Intel) what other problems can you name?

Apart from the ****** screens... there is really not much to fault those machines for. All the usual culprits like warping lids and denting casings happen with the old PBG4s anyway.

Like multimedia I think the next Rev is going to be a great release.
 

Deepdale

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I am reasonably confident it will be a fairly smooth transition, but in the technology field one should always be prepared for at least a few Kodak moments.
 

Erasmus

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Buy Santa Rosa, with Leopard. No brainer.

You will be ripping out hair before long if you go and buy one of today's MBPs either just before, or after as a refurb or second hand. This upgrade will be far, far more worthwhile than the Merom upgrade. I say that with certainty, but, of course, without any information or proof. The slight savings in either time or money will not come even close in my opinion to having a better processor, faster RAM, a brand new operating system, iLife '07, a much better graphics card, maybe a higher resolution screen, more HDD space, internal flash memory, and no doubt half a dozen smaller upgrades.

The most likely problems you are likely to have is in the OS. These, of course, are easily and quickly fixed by Apple's software updates, that will no doubt come quickly after Leopard is released. Any hardware problems will be replaced by Apple, and any that aren't are most likely not Apple's fault, and would happen on the old models anyway, eg. HDD dies.
 

Bye Bye Baby

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I'll admit I'm a sucker for all new and improved models. But what happened in 2006 was only a precurser to this years full blown completion of the transition. Without Leopard and Adobe CS3, I think last year's models are running on an Intel version of a PPC centric system. Leopard should bring both families into a new ear of parity.

I tend to agree. I don't think now is a good time to buy. I think that there are still to many real imporvements to be made in terms of technology. Of course it remians to be seen what role flash memory will play with Santa Rosa (robson etc) I for one think that, the 'transition' won't really be complete until Penryn. There is new technology that by that time should consoladate much of what is now only bein talked about- new screnes, memeory mangement, form factors and OS that will really sync with technology.

Buy now at your own peril.
 
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