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DO you leave your A-TV running all the time ?
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I use my aTV in my bedroom, and in standby I can here the HDD clicking periodically as it seems to sync whilst even in standby. It also remains quite warm even in standby, so I've gotten into the habbit of unplugging it at night. I would have like a proper off switch though...
I turned my 
TV off for the first time, yesterday, 'cause my utility bills have skyrocketed and I guess it all adds up. BTW.....you can turn it off by holding down the center button.
TV off for the first time, yesterday, 'cause my utility bills have skyrocketed and I guess it all adds up. BTW.....you can turn it off by holding down the center button.
I don't think this actually turns it off. I have made it a habit to use the 'hold down center button' method, until the screen goes blank and the white light on the front of the
TV goes dark, but later when my iTunes wants to sync with the TV it does so with no problem. Wouldn't be able to if the TV were actually off. I think the only thing it actually stops doing is sending a signal to the TV.
I turned my
I don't think this actually turns it off. I have made it a habit to use the 'hold down center button' method, until the screen goes blank and the white light on the front of the
Exactly -
TV doesn't have a proper "off" - only a standby which maintains an active wireless connection at the very least. I'm still switching off at the socket at night.Shame on Apple
It's a disgusting waste of energy that thousands (and if Apple get their way, millions) of these boxes are constantly powered up and chewing through power. Do these companies live in utter isolation from the world outside??
Suspect it's part of Apple's big plan for the boxes - powered up all the time, calling home to Daddy Steve, and in time they'll be downloading 'feature' ads and programs that Apple get money to shove down your throat...
Just my 2pence worth.
It's a disgusting waste of energy that thousands (and if Apple get their way, millions) of these boxes are constantly powered up and chewing through power. Do these companies live in utter isolation from the world outside??
Suspect it's part of Apple's big plan for the boxes - powered up all the time, calling home to Daddy Steve, and in time they'll be downloading 'feature' ads and programs that Apple get money to shove down your throat...
Just my 2pence worth.
Yes:
I don't think this actually turns it off. I have made it a habit to use the 'hold down center button' method, until the screen goes blank and the white light on the front of the
It's 20-22 watts when turned on, 17 watts in standby mode. Not much of a "sleep" mode, but not a huge power draw either. Windows PC's draw 100-130 watts when turned on, my A/C unit draws 3000+ watts when running, and my pool pump just under 2000 for comparison.
I keep it on all the time. It's used every day.
But in the winter it also makes a great space heater!
But in the winter it also makes a great space heater!
How's that tin foil hat working out for you?
17W 24 hours per day 356 days per year equates to about $13/year on my electric bill. That's $13 out of an annual $624, or 2.1%.
I actually do believe that is significant.
Based on the heat output, I suspect my two cable boxes (which also never sleep) are consuming just as much, so now for some always on AV devices I am at $40/year. Add in a few other AV parasites and I can account for 10% of my annual electric bill. It doesn't take a lot to make these things significant.
If every US household is wasting the same 434 kWh/year that I am, we now have 434 kWh/household*105,500,000 households (2000 census) = 45,675,000,000 kWh.
A barrel of oil is 1,700 kWh, so take 45,675,000,000 and divide by 1700 and we get 26,867,647 barrels of oil per year because of a few electrical devices that don't sleep well.
Insignificant taken as a single unit, but a whole lot of energy as a whole.
Scott
Smarter Power Strip
If you are concerned about drawing too much power even in standby I might suggest the Smart Power Strip.
http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001087.php
Just plug your TV into the blue socket and your cable boxes into the red ones and it will cut power to them when you turn off your TV.
Cheers, Mav
If you are concerned about drawing too much power even in standby I might suggest the Smart Power Strip.
http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001087.php
Just plug your TV into the blue socket and your cable boxes into the red ones and it will cut power to them when you turn off your TV.
Cheers, Mav
Has anyone measured their AppleTV using Kill-a-watt or something similar? I would guess that the AppleTV draws 20 W. So in this scenario, it would consume 175.2 kWH. At 0.10/kWH (which is higher than the rate I pay), you are look at $17.20 a year, or $1.43/month.
It would be good to have some real data on energy consumption, though...
It would be good to have some real data on energy consumption, though...
Technically yes, but lately for me, I have problems accessing the iTunes Store (just sits there and the icon "spins" forever) along with problems syncing with my Mac
If I unplug the
TV and plug it back in (essentially a reboot), these problems go away - at least for awhile.I've tried keeping the unit on all the time, and also tried keeping it in standby mode - no difference. I prefer standby, though.
So, I've resolved to just reboot at least once a week and hope that Apple fixes this with the next system release.
ok,guys,seriously? you think it's THAT big of a power draw? i have an iMac, a Dell,a DVR,Nintendo Wii,Apple TV and a lamp in my living room with 1 bulb and a lamp in my computer room with 3 bulbs. I leave these running 24/7/365 and my current electric bill is $70/month...i honestly cant think of the tv drawing that much juice...but if tv stuff (a LUXURY) is that bad,i'd just unplug it until i needed it.
tv drawing that much juice...but if tv stuff (a LUXURY) is that bad,i'd just unplug it until i needed it.i honestly cant think of the
Our TV rack full of stuff (ATV, Xbox, satellite box, receiver, dvd player, TV) draws about 90W when everything is in standby. Since I found that out I turn it off at the plug when we're not watching - it's like leaving a light burning all the time for no reason! The ATV draws about 30W in standby or when active (there's no measurable difference between the two).
At least you have an option to turn it off for the Wii.
ok,guys,seriously? you think it's THAT big of a power draw? i have an iMac, a Dell,a DVR,Nintendo Wii,Apple TV and a lamp in my living room with 1 bulb and a lamp in my computer room with 3 bulbs. I leave these running 24/7/365 and my current electric bill is $70/month...i honestly cant think of the
It all depends on the cost of electricity. Here in coal country, it's 8 cents/kwh, but in the SF Bay area I understand it can get up to 40.
Based on actual measurements I've found, the
tv uses 15W when idle and 24W when under load. According to the prior poster, it could be even higher. Idling at 15W or 30W is unacceptable, and is why the tv isn't Energy Star certified. The next round of Energy Star specs will be even more stringent, so let's hope Apple figures out how to change the syncing behavior.