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As the thread title states, I’m curious how many people regularly use the AVP for augmented reality purposes. I’ve seen quite a few topics of people who use it as a glorified movie theater, but the AR portion seems to be used just to try it out and then put to one side.
 
I don't think a device this bulky and heavy can be qualified as an AR device tbh
 
I’m not sure what you mean by the AR aspect. Vision Pro is a spatial computing device where you manipulate apps and content within your actual spatial environment - it’s hard to use it without “AR”. There is an option to use VR environments in full or partial immersion when using apps or watching video, but I would say that maybe 10% of my usage is within full immersion. Watching video within a fully immersive environment is definitely a popular use case, but I mainly use Vision Pro the same way I would an iPad or Mac - using apps like Safari, Outlook, and Notes, typically with environments turned off. I only turn on environments when I want to watch a movie or when my real environment is too visually noisy. So if you’re asking if the folks on this forum use Vision Pro for anything besides watching movies in VR theater environment, I think the answer would be yes for 90% of us.
 
I mostly use is for a theater but I also browse the web and use mail and messages and all that floating window stuff in my room preferably without the light seal. if the passthrough video was a bit clearer I'd probably use it more for cooking with recipes and the like up, which I have done before, just not regularly.
 
I use it as an iPad pro max ultra, that means watching videos, regular flat videos.
it's great because I don't have to hold it up with my hands, audio/visual experience are also superior, that's the only reason I got it.

the AR/XR stuff are fun gimmicks, I never thought I would use them, and I never did use them. I hang a clock widget on the wall cuz the real clock I have there is out of battery.

the immersive stuff you have on Apple TV are again just gimmicks, they're super boring other than the fact that they're in 180 degree 3D, I couldn't care less about some bike racer taking an interview in French accent, why would I pay 3k to watch that in 3D?
 
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I use it as an iPad pro max ultra, that means watching videos, regular flat videos.
it's great because I don't have to hold it up with my hands, audio/visual experience are also superior, that's the only reason I got it.

the AR/XR stuff are fun gimmicks, I never thought I would use them, and I never did use them. I hang a clock widget on the wall cuz the real clock I have there is out of battery.

the immersive stuff you have on Apple TV are again just gimmicks, they're super boring other than the fact that they're in 180 degree 3D, I couldn't care less about some bike racer taking an interview in French accent, why would I pay 3k to watch that in 3D?
I take exception with your characterization of immersive "stuff" as "just gimmicks." It's like saying that watching non-immersive movies and TV, which you seem to enjoy, is no more than a gimmick.

I and many other AVP users find much of the immersive material from Apple and other sources highly compelling and worth watching more than once. Just because you don't doesn't mean immersive presentation itself is lacking.
 
I'm currently moving into a new flat and would L O V E to preview some design concepts, like wall colors and ikea furniture in the new flat. But there is NO APP to do so. It's just such a letdown. I would have though that by now this would be an absolute standard workflow, since this is kind of the number one use case of AR, to preview things in the real world that arent there yet... so lame
 
I'm currently moving into a new flat and would L O V E to preview some design concepts, like wall colors and ikea furniture in the new flat. But there is NO APP to do so. It's just such a letdown. I would have though that by now this would be an absolute standard workflow, since this is kind of the number one use case of AR, to preview things in the real world that arent there yet... so lame
The IKEA app on iPhone can place digital furniture in space. They don’t have a VP version?

I did a quick search and the top hit said the VP IKEA app exists but I didn’t notice if they had a link to it.
 
I use it as an iPad pro max ultra, that means watching videos, regular flat videos.
it's great because I don't have to hold it up with my hands, audio/visual experience are also superior, that's the only reason I got it.

the AR/XR stuff are fun gimmicks, I never thought I would use them, and I never did use them. I hang a clock widget on the wall cuz the real clock I have there is out of battery.

the immersive stuff you have on Apple TV are again just gimmicks, they're super boring other than the fact that they're in 180 degree 3D, I couldn't care less about some bike racer taking an interview in French accent, why would I pay 3k to watch that in 3D?

It’s basically true though. We watched it because it showed what avp could do. But the content was boring as hell. We won’t get compelling content without YouTube coming through imo. User content. Apple can’t even offer decent content on atv app. Immersive sports coverage isn’t coming soon if ever.
 
I'll chime in on this one because I bought the thing not sure whether it was going to be an experiment I rarely used as more than a toy or actually useful, and here I find myself about three weeks in wearing it not as a toy but a genuinely useful tool while working from home (and then procrastinating for a break by going to this forum).

So my answer would be, it depends on where you draw the line on AR, but I've certainly used it for a form of AR as well as at least some of its actual intended use, spatial computing (which you could argue is more MR than AR, but that's a really fuzzy distinction anyway). The more-or-less full VR stuff, I haven't used other than to play around.

What I'm primarily using it for when not just playing around (and what I'm wearing it for right now) is the Mac virtual display feature. I don't have room for a 5-foot-wide ultrawide monitor in my little home office, but I do have room to wear an AVP, and the work I'm doing would be incredibly awkward with a 16" laptop + 15" portable screen I was using to date. In fact, it's awkward with three 1080p screens on the computer at work I'm remoting into.

One could argue that the giant floating screen I'm typing on right now isn't "really" AR since I could get the same effect with a VR headset, but the reality is I can see my hands, I look down at the keyboard frequently to find the right key to hit, and I'm drinking out of a teacup on the desk, none of which would be doable without the AR-ness of the interface. The keyboard in particular would be impossible, since there's no way I can reliably hit F6 without being able to see it even though I can touch-type.

And I did do some not-for-fun spatial computing a couple days ago when I was trying to trace wires in a set of photos I took of some electrical gear. While switching between photos and losing my place constantly I thought "Gee, maybe I should try my Vision Pro". I was then able arrange five large photos at the same time around me, which made it much easier to follow between points than with any of the monitor setups I have access to, and was also kind of nice because I could arrange the floating photos in space roughly corresponding to where they were if I was in front of the equipment.

Again, you could argue this wasn't "AR" since the only need for seeing the room was not tripping on my table and couch, but it was definitely mixed-reality spatial computing doing something a flat screen can't in quite the same way.

It did give me an idea for an app that I'd buy in a moment if it exists: A digital version of the crazy red-string-corkboard in every detective movie ever. As in, an app that I could put a bunch of virtual photos from my wall in space, and then connect a virtual string between points on them. I'm not a conspiracy theory nut or tracking a serial killer, but that would be super useful for figuring out which wire connects to which.
 
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I'm currently moving into a new flat and would L O V E to preview some design concepts, like wall colors and ikea furniture in the new flat. But there is NO APP to do so. It's just such a letdown. I would have though that by now this would be an absolute standard workflow, since this is kind of the number one use case of AR, to preview things in the real world that arent there yet... so lame
It's not IKEA, and it's not wall colors, but ARki is designed to let you spatially design a room, and one of its features is letting you drop a life-sized piece of furniture with some visual options into a real space. It's not perfect, but if you're interested in that it's worth trying.
 
It's not IKEA, and it's not wall colors, but ARki is designed to let you spatially design a room, and one of its features is letting you drop a life-sized piece of furniture with some visual options into a real space. It's not perfect, but if you're interested in that it's worth trying.
Thanks, yeah I tried that and it’s even more frustrating since this app
demonstrates what’s possible. And ikea has the iPhone ar app
So they did all the work scanning all their furniture already - why not bring it to the avp?

But tbh what I miss the most is the ability to simulate wall colors in any app :(
 
But tbh what I miss the most is the ability to simulate wall colors in any app :(
Benjamin Moore has an iPhone app that you feed a photo, select an area, and pick a color from their catalog, and it tries to show you what that'll look like painted. It's not AR at all, but it does show how useful a feature like that is--I just painted part of my house based on that app's preview of what it'll look like, so they successfully sold me some paint that way.

An AVP AR version of that would indeed be extremely useful for redecorating, so much so that I could imagine painting companies bringing an AVP to a sales call to help you pick a color.

On the flip side, I can also see how it would be a frightening app to put in the wild, because you're giving someone a particularly extreme preview, and if you get it even a little wrong they're going to have just spent hundreds of dollars on your product and either thousands of dollars or dozens of hours in labor, and will be extremely angry that it doesn't look like "the app" promised them it would.
 
Thanks, yeah I tried that and it’s even more frustrating since this app
demonstrates what’s possible. And ikea has the iPhone ar app
So they did all the work scanning all their furniture already - why not bring it to the avp?

But tbh what I miss the most is the ability to simulate wall colors in any app :(
its all doable, just the desire, priority and worthwhile to do it is more the issue.
 
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