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Do you think 1680x1050 is too dense for a 17" MBP

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 16.3%
  • No

    Votes: 67 83.8%

  • Total voters
    80

bradz_id

macrumors member
Original poster
Nov 16, 2002
68
0
Tasmania, Australia
Hi,

I have been waiting on the 17" MacBook Pro for some time now and I'm a little dissappointed that it has such a high pixel density. You should be able to choose between 1440x900 and 1680x1050 like you can choose with Dells. The 1680x1050 on my 20" Benq FP202W seems pretty perfect and 17" might be a bit small. What do you guys think?
 

dpaanlka

macrumors 601
Nov 16, 2004
4,869
34
Illinois
You can still choose all the resolutions, likely even down to 800 x 600.

However, as with all LCDs, using a resolution that isn't the "Native" resolution just so everything can be bigger is a bad idea in the sense that it has to pixel double (or quadruple) to attain that resolution...

LCD pixles are fixed and cant just move around at the user's desire.

So this means it will be sortof blurry. Its the same story with all LCDs I believe, including Dells.
 

Chundles

macrumors G5
Jul 4, 2005
12,037
493
dpaanlka said:
You can still choose all the resolutions, likely even down to 800 x 600.

However, as with all LCDs, using a resolution that isn't the "Native" resolution just so everything can be bigger is a bad idea in the sense that it has to pixel double (or quadruple) to attain that resolution...

LCD pixles are fixed and cant just move around at the user's desire.

So this means it will be sortof blurry. Its the same story with all LCDs I believe, including Dells.

He means he wants to be able to choose a 1440x900 screen or a 1050x1600 screen, not scale the resolution.

I've looked at the last 17" Powerbook screen and it was fantastic - still highly visible and clear but a good amount of real estate too - 2 pages of text at 100% next to each other, very nice indeed.

When 10.5 comes out it will have resolution independence so that no matter what resolution your screen is, things will look the same size if you want them too. If you have a high resolution screen you can scale up the size of the UI without losing any clarity. You could make a 30" display look like the 15.4" display yet not lose any real estate if you wanted to open a massive photo in Photoshop. Resolution Independence is going to be awesome - it will usher in very high res screens that mean higher clarity, not smaller fonts/UI elements.
 

jamesi

macrumors 6502a
Sep 13, 2005
595
2
Davis CA
will the font be too small? have you ever used a computer before? you can change the resolution to w/e you want all the way right down to 680x480 in most cases
 

tonyl

macrumors 6502
Jan 18, 2006
284
0
jamesi said:
will the font be too small? have you ever used a computer before? you can change the resolution to w/e you want all the way right down to 680x480 in most cases

It's LCD, man, not CRT. 1680x1050 is the optimal resolution. Yes you can change to other resolutions, but you won't get the best disply.
 

bradz_id

macrumors member
Original poster
Nov 16, 2002
68
0
Tasmania, Australia
jamesi said:
will the font be too small? have you ever used a computer before? you can change the resolution to w/e you want all the way right down to 680x480 in most cases

Have you seen how blurry an LCD operating at a scaled resolution is???
 

jamesi

macrumors 6502a
Sep 13, 2005
595
2
Davis CA
yea i have, and im still not convinced this is a big deal. the best way to tell is to just go and freaking look at the thing. its a matter of how bad your eyes are
 

plinkoman

macrumors 65816
Jul 2, 2003
1,144
1
New York
not dense enough. I want 1920x1200 in 17".

but seriously though, it's not too small, and infact, it looks quite stunning, amazingly clear and such. this is the only display i've ever used where i cannot see the pixels unless i try really really really really hard.
 

tonyl

macrumors 6502
Jan 18, 2006
284
0
plinkoman said:
not dense enough. I want 1920x1200 in 17".

but seriously though, it's not too small, and infact, it looks quite stunning, amazingly clear and such. this is the only display i've ever used where i cannot see the pixels unless i try really really really really hard.

Where did you get it? Apple store in NYC?
 

Chundles

macrumors G5
Jul 4, 2005
12,037
493
I just knocked my iBook down to 800x600 - looked bloody shocking, blurry and just plain bad.

Stick to the native resolution. 1600x1050 looks great on the PB, I'd like to see it go 1920x1200 with the release of 10.5

Mind you, if 10.5 is res independent I want to see a 1920x1200 13.3" screen - 1080p HD compliant yet still able to see everything as clear as day just by scaling up the UI.
 

Sutekidane

macrumors 6502a
Jan 26, 2005
936
2
My friend has an acer ferrari notebook with 1680x1050 on a 15" screen. It's okay, but I think it's a bit too dense. Things are very very small. I'm happy with my macbook pro's resolution. The screen is simply awesome.
 

homerjward

macrumors 68030
May 11, 2004
2,745
0
fig tree
not dense enough
1920x1200 on a 15" screen is about my favorite laptop screen
maybe 2560x1600 on a 17 or 19" would be nice too :cool:
 

cyberone

macrumors 6502
Oct 24, 2005
326
84
I just adjust screen resolution to 1440 x 852 streched on my 17"

yes, have good eyes, but use it mostly as a work station with keyboard.

works perfectly well.
 

Josias

macrumors 68000
Mar 10, 2006
1,908
1
On a 17" laptop I think 1680x1050 is perfact. If they made 1920x1200, it would make OS X look wierd on such a small screen. Perhaps when 10.5 comes out. I think 1440x900 woulda been too little, since it would be a step back:eek: ;)
 

QCassidy352

macrumors G5
Mar 20, 2003
12,066
6,107
Bay Area
homerjward said:
not dense enough
1920x1200 on a 15" screen is about my favorite laptop screen
maybe 2560x1600 on a 17 or 19" would be nice too :cool:

:eek: You're kidding, right? You want the 15" to have higher res than the 17" does now?? That would drive me absolutely insane.
 

NATO

macrumors 68000
Feb 14, 2005
1,702
35
Northern Ireland
Wow... The same resolution as my 20" Cinema Display but on a 17" Panel. I thought the 20" Cinema Display was a high resolution screen, but I think the 17" Would look very well.

Think about it, if you have a desktop 20" Display and a 17" Laptop, you can set both up exactly the same, as you have exactly the same visual real estate on both. You won't have to comprimise on your display just because you're using a laptop.
 

Josias

macrumors 68000
Mar 10, 2006
1,908
1
As explained, people are usually further away from desktopscreens. That is why iMacs and ACD's have a resolution one "level" lower than laptops.;)
 

ahunter3

macrumors 6502
Oct 15, 2003
377
5
I have the 17" PowerBook G4 — same screen, I presume. (Same res, at any rate).

I'm 47 and I need reading glasses to read books, but I love this screen. The 1024 x 768 on my WallStreet now looks grainy, made up of huge horse-pixels, and I don't feel like I have any room to work in on it.

1680 x 1050 is addictive as hell.

The screen is spectacularly sharp and brilliantly lit. Reading 9 point type on this thing is far less difficult than reading the label on a bottle of ginger ale.
 
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