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Other Do you think next year's "normal" iPhone will have LIDAR sensor?

What do you think?

  • Yes, normal iPhones will have LIDAR next year

    Votes: 8 23.5%

  • No, LIDAR sensor will remain for iPhones PRO a few years

    Votes: 26 76.5%
  • Total voters
    34
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Sopo87

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Sep 24, 2017
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I have an iPhone 8 plus which works perfectly. Therefore, even though I feel tempted to buy a new iPhone 12 I was wondering if Apple will include the LIDAR sensor in next year's "normal" iPhone (maybe it will be called iPhone 12s).

If that's probable, I will wait patiently until next year. If not... I think I will go for iPhone 12 this year.

Buying an iPhone PRO is out of the table (they are above my budget).


PS: sorry for my terrible English.
 
Sopo87 said:
I have an iPhone 8 plus which works perfectly. Therefore, even though I feel tempted to buy a new iPhone 12 I was wondering if Apple will include the LIDAR sensor in next year's "normal" iPhone (maybe it will be called iPhone 12s).

If that's probable, I will wait patiently until next year. If not... I think I will go for iPhone 12 this year.

Buying an iPhone PRO is out of the table (they are above my budget).


PS: sorry for my terrible English.
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I want to disable the lidar for the safety to the eyes of my one year old baby. Wish Apple can offer an option.
 
I think it may be included with more models as time goes by. Next generation is a definite possibility as they (Apple) seem to have more ideas around AR.
 
Cardino said:
I am not sure. Any way, the laser is dangerous and the baby were always too weak.
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Again if you’re not sure why state that the laser is dangerous? If you have proof, let’s see the study.

Apple is among the richest companies in the world and if they’d produce a public safety risk they’d be drowned in lawsuits.
I doubt any iPhone can produce a harmful laser beam that’s powerful enough to hurt a human.
 
Cardino said:
I am not sure. Any way, the laser is dangerous and the baby were always too weak.
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ericwn said:
Again if you’re not sure why state that the laser is dangerous? If you have proof, let’s see the study.

Apple is among the richest companies in the world and if they’d produce a public safety risk they’d be drowned in lawsuits.
I doubt any iPhone can produce a harmful laser beam that’s powerful enough to hurt a human.
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Further, when the iPhone X was announced with FaceID, Apple published a lot of PR material about how it worked to reinforce to people that it was harmless commonplace technology. While they haven't issued publication (to my knowledge) on LiDar, I highly doubt they then use harmful technology for similar depth-mapping technology.

Also, Apple's promotional videos show th Lidar sensor being used on people for photos. However, if it makes you uncomfortable you can either use a small piece of electoral tab over the sensor or get an iPhone 12/mini.
 
ericwn said:
Again if you’re not sure why state that the laser is dangerous? If you have proof, let’s see the study.

Apple is among the richest companies in the world and if they’d produce a public safety risk they’d be drowned in lawsuits.
I doubt any iPhone can produce a harmful laser beam that’s powerful enough to hurt a human.
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Do they consider the case for tiny infant？ They have an obligation to explain safety. People can't put the safety of children on a blind letter. Since Apple does not provide a security statement, I hope it can provide an option to turn off the laser. I'm just expressing a worry or a demand, not an attack on Apple. Frankly, I'm shocked by your reaction.
 
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Cardino said:
Do they consider the case for tiny infant？ They have an obligation to explain safety. People can't put the safety of children on a blind letter. Since Apple does not provide a security statement, I hope it can provide an option to turn off the laser. I'm just expressing a worry or a demand, not an attack on Apple. Frankly, I'm shocked by your reaction.
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I’m asking for the specific reason of concern. At this stage you might have said that you’re afraid that your soul is taken when the laser hits you.

Frankly I’m shocked by your attempt to stir up fear with nothing to backup your concerns.
 
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Cardino said:
Do they consider the case for tiny infant？ They have an obligation to explain safety. People can't put the safety of children on a blind letter. Since Apple does not provide a security statement, I hope it can provide an option to turn off the laser. I'm just expressing a worry or a demand, not an attack on Apple. Frankly, I'm shocked by your reaction.
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Geez. Is Apple going to need to include a tin foil hat in the box for you too?
 
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A lot of jerks in here today :) Yes, it is highly likely that Apple’s Lidar is eye-safe due to the low power (can only sense up to 5 meters away), low density, and quick flashes. But it‘s not a given that it would be perfectly safe for sensitive developing eyes, 940nm lasers shining from a VCSEL can be dangerous to eyes given enough power or long continuous exposure, so please don’t dogpile on a parent for wanting extra peace of mind for their infant given that the safety aspect is quite difficult to research.

The person didn’t say it was dangerous, they wanted an option to disable it just in case.
 
DreamPod said:
A lot of jerks in here today :) Yes, it is highly likely that Apple’s Lidar is eye-safe due to the low power (can only sense up to 5 meters away), low density, and quick flashes. But it‘s not a given that it would be perfectly safe for sensitive developing eyes, 940nm lasers shining from a VCSEL can be dangerous to eyes given enough power or long continuous exposure, so please don’t dogpile on a parent for wanting extra peace of mind for their infant given that the safety aspect is quite difficult to research.

The person didn’t say it was dangerous, they wanted an option to disable it just in case.
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The person also was unable to state a reason for concern. Don’t rush to the Defense of those who don’t know what they are afraid of. Calling people who ask question jerks just helps no-one and is a poor representation of the conversation, to say the least.

Oh, and the OP stated it’s a laser and that it’s dangerous.
 
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I think that its use cases would need to be more cemented and widespread for it to be considered worth putting in the midrange devices
 
probably depends if they have enough of other things to differentiate the camera on the Pro next year.
 
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