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Do you think Watch Series 7 Will Have Glucose Monitoring?


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Closingracer

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And how do you expect that to work ? Your watch stabbing your skin and sanitizing itself ? It’s not feasible IMO as a diabetic myself
 

tafmasterpl

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that would be a true miracle, after all the useless things like blood pulse, ECG, blood o2, all useless that would change my life
 

bricktop_at

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that would be a true miracle, after all the useless things like blood pulse, ECG, blood o2, all useless that would change my life
I'm not a diabetic myself, but I can imagine how massive many people's lives would possibly be changed. Let's hope for the best :)
Not really conviced that this is ready for release in the AW 7 though....
 
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loybond

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And how do you expect that to work ? Your watch stabbing your skin and sanitizing itself ? It’s not feasible IMO as a diabetic myself
I dunno, I'm not the one making the claim.



However I do think that it would be one of the most significant things a health oriented product could get, diabetic or not.
 

BugeyeSTI

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I really don't see how it can be medically reliable without having a sensor directly under the skin. That's how the Dexcom G6 does it, seems if they could of made it work by just touching your skin they would of done it..
 

loybond

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I really don't see how it can be medically reliable without having a sensor directly under the skin. That's how the Dexcom G6 does it, seems if they could of made it work by just touching your skin they would of done it..
Well, Samsung devices can do blood pressure, and we have oxygen, so perhaps there's a possibility of some type of optical sensor at a reduced accuracy level. Even those home blood tests aren't super accurate vs. a blood test, but if it can give you a reasonable idea, that's already very useful. E.g. if someone's blood sugar is consistently over 7 mmol/L, it warns you that you may be pre-diabetic.
 

thejadedmonkey

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It it happens, I'd get one. I know I have glucose and sugar issues due to unhealthy eating habits combined with genetics. If I could get something that could help me monitor it, I'd be all for that.

Are Apple Watches able to be purchased with HSA money?
 

BugeyeSTI

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It it happens, I'd get one. I know I have glucose and sugar issues due to unhealthy eating habits combined with genetics. If I could get something that could help me monitor it, I'd be all for that.

Are Apple Watches able to be purchased with HSA money?
The only article on the subject I could find is from 2018. At that time, you aren't allowed to as the Apple Watch isn't deemed a medical device by the IRS..
 

quietstormSD

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I think they can probably put something out there that reads whatever through it's optical sensors with other data it collects to estimate the glucose level, but I don't think it's anything exact and they sure as hell probably will have warnings that it is not a medical device and don't rely on it.
 

OldRhodie

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I’m Type 2, so it will be a compelling reason to upgrade. I know a number of diabetics who’d buy an AW for the first time.
 

OldRhodie

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Well, Samsung devices can do blood pressure, and we have oxygen, so perhaps there's a possibility of some type of optical sensor at a reduced accuracy level. Even those home blood tests aren't super accurate vs. a blood test, but if it can give you a reasonable idea, that's already very useful. E.g. if someone's blood sugar is consistently over 7 mmol/L, it warns you that you may be pre-diabetic.
Yes, a finger prick is pretty much an approximation, so one aims for a broad range and often it’s the trend that’s a warning.
 

ZachApple

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This would be great in a watch. However, I cannot see it replacing finger sticks for treatment decisions. Even FDA approved continuous glucose monitors require finger sticks occasionally when they are "unsure".

For context though, blood glucose meters can be far from exact. Between meter brands the same finger can show 30 mg/dl difference (considering less than 70 is generally considered low and 100 is generally considered good, 30 points makes quite a difference!).

Overall, even if an Apple Watch sensor could only give general trend info (glucose rising or falling quickly) it would still be a game changer.

I am not a doctor, this is not medical advice. Siri, Alexa, and Google are not doctors either (thankfully!).
 
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jz0309

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While I believe that at some point non-invasive sensors will become reality, I don’t see it happening in AW7.
Besides, it would make the AW a true medical device and I doubt Apple will do that for the watch. When the time comes, they will release it as a “special edition” for at least double the price, and it will be worth it for those who need it, but it will never come to the standard watch like eg ECG…
 

jz0309

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Really? I see ecg as a way more niche feature than glucose
I suppose you were responding to my post ... ECG functionality is achieved with the same sensor that measures your heart rate, no special HW needed, just SW ... glucose, non-invasive, requires a new sensor, or maybe even more, I do not know ... therefor it will increase the cot of the watch, plus, if you amuse a 3 year life for the AW, 3 years of diabetic supplies cots you hundreds of $s, something like a Decom much more - why would Apple leave that money on the street? That's why when/if it will be a "special edition" demanding a significant hike in price.
 

ZachApple

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ECG functionality is achieved with the same sensor that measures your heart rate, no special HW needed
There is special hardware for the ECG. An ECG measures the actual electrical signals from the heart, which requires a conductive circuit. Series 4 added metal contact points on the crown and back of the watch for this.

Series 3 and below only has an optical sensor, which measures heart rate by watching for pulses of blood as it circulates.

I am not a doctor, this is not medical advice. Siri, Alexa, and Google are not doctors either (thankfully!).
 
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