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Do you Think Windows 8 is a Failure?
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It's awful. Who the hell wants to use an OS that looks as though it was designed by Playskool? I can't believe they got rid of the Start menu for a cartoonish grid of different coloured tiles. It's vile. It seems to be worse than Vista and I hated Vista. I think it needs to be permanently consigned to the tech scrapheap along with Vista, ME and Microsoft Bob.
Best OS I've used to date. Better than 7 (not by much, but still better).
Clearly you're not actually familiar with Windows 8. You don't need to ever use the Start screen if you don't want to. Maybe do a little research before you make yourself look stupid.
Clearly you're not actually familiar with Windows 8. You don't need to ever use the Start screen if you don't want to. Maybe do a little research before you make yourself look stupid.
I like it..but I voted fail.
Mostly due to the amount of changes that normal users (read: my moms boyfriend) will not have an easy time adjusting to.
I think for many users, with a low to moderate amount of computer skills will have a hard time adjusting to the new system.
powerusers (gamers, programmers etc. probably welcome the changes and adapts fast)
also it's a failure on the fact that it failed installation-based number-wise, it's seeing a rather slow adaption rate.
no matter "we" vote or think, that is a fact. not as bad as Vista according to the latest numbers I've seen.
and thus my vote fell on "fail"
Mostly due to the amount of changes that normal users (read: my moms boyfriend) will not have an easy time adjusting to.
I think for many users, with a low to moderate amount of computer skills will have a hard time adjusting to the new system.
powerusers (gamers, programmers etc. probably welcome the changes and adapts fast)
also it's a failure on the fact that it failed installation-based number-wise, it's seeing a rather slow adaption rate.
no matter "we" vote or think, that is a fact. not as bad as Vista according to the latest numbers I've seen.
and thus my vote fell on "fail"
Well, I'm one of those who preferred XP to Vista, and much prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8.
The antique machines at work are slowly being upgraded to Windows 8, and I can honestly say it is the most tedious, frightful system I have ever worked with. Perfectly ghastly, in fact. Actually, it is an open secret in my office that I utterly detest it.
Fortunately, most of my written work - and all of my research work - is done on my own MBA (which is earning its living and justifying its purchase price); I step into the office to check on work emails, show my face, and chat to colleagues.
The antique machines at work are slowly being upgraded to Windows 8, and I can honestly say it is the most tedious, frightful system I have ever worked with. Perfectly ghastly, in fact. Actually, it is an open secret in my office that I utterly detest it.
Fortunately, most of my written work - and all of my research work - is done on my own MBA (which is earning its living and justifying its purchase price); I step into the office to check on work emails, show my face, and chat to colleagues.
Well. It is ugly. But, compared to OS X, what isn't?
Windows 8 does have some cool security stuff, though, with new hardware. Big improvements, at least potentially, over W7. Like Vista/W7 did over XP. XP is an abomination, security-wise. XP practically had malware-for-malware compatibility with everything that came before it.
tough to say
It depends, since you don't mention any criterion on which to base success or failure. Straight up sales numbers relative to prior Windows versions? Fail. So far. Usability? Depends on the application. UI: Generally a fail. Games? Definitely a fail - Steam hates it = games hate it...
Overall sales, regardless of previous versions, i.e. adding to MS' bottom line? Doing just fine, thanks. Non-UI, non-gamer software improvements? Also good. Longevity? Too early to tell... but Jobs' quote about PCs being trucks seems to be on the mark.
It depends, since you don't mention any criterion on which to base success or failure. Straight up sales numbers relative to prior Windows versions? Fail. So far. Usability? Depends on the application. UI: Generally a fail. Games? Definitely a fail - Steam hates it = games hate it...
Overall sales, regardless of previous versions, i.e. adding to MS' bottom line? Doing just fine, thanks. Non-UI, non-gamer software improvements? Also good. Longevity? Too early to tell... but Jobs' quote about PCs being trucks seems to be on the mark.
What's not to like? On an SSD it's faster, more stable, and the ability to snap a chat app on the side of your screen while using the desktop is amazing for multi-tasking. I still don't know if I like the start screen, but judging an OS by the start screen is as moronic as judging OS X by the dock (which, by the way, is terrible too).
I think.....
is not a complete failure. Some adjusts that come with 8.1 reshuffle the discusion about Tablet OS vs. Desktop OS. I currently have a HP mini I use in some instances, with Windows 8.1.....The thing right now is about drivers, driver support and compatibility with current software and hardware.
Still, any OS that have something so archaic as DOS in his underpinnings, can not be the future of computing. It is a financial and comercial solution/compromise. I personally hate the infamous black or blue screens and esoteric error codes.....
..........Only seems to me, that real failures have come to decrease, at least for me and a bunch of people I know that use Windows for business/support/cost situations
is not a complete failure. Some adjusts that come with 8.1 reshuffle the discusion about Tablet OS vs. Desktop OS. I currently have a HP mini I use in some instances, with Windows 8.1.....The thing right now is about drivers, driver support and compatibility with current software and hardware.
Still, any OS that have something so archaic as DOS in his underpinnings, can not be the future of computing. It is a financial and comercial solution/compromise. I personally hate the infamous black or blue screens and esoteric error codes.....
..........Only seems to me, that real failures have come to decrease, at least for me and a bunch of people I know that use Windows for business/support/cost situations
Windows 8.1 has solved almost every complaint. Start Menu is still there, it just looks different.
People said the same thing when Windows 95 Came out, " Oh noes! its a toy! Ahhh! ", they said the same thing with Windows XP " Colors!? A new Control Panel! Crazyyyyyyyyyy Will never take off! "
People said the same thing when Windows 95 Came out, " Oh noes! its a toy! Ahhh! ", they said the same thing with Windows XP " Colors!? A new Control Panel! Crazyyyyyyyyyy Will never take off! "
As stated in the post above, the last DOS Windows System was Windows ME.
XP/2000 and up have no DOS Underpinnings, tho they are capable of emulating a DOS machines/ environment when needed to run legacy software. Windows 8 is no different, it has no DOS underpinnings. And is a pure 64 Bit operating system with the ability to run on 32 Bit Hardware and emulate old machines. It is 100% NT based.
My mistake.....
I was not fully aware of that fact. Also, when I stated "underpinnings" I am thinking not only in a foundation, but also in an accesory operative system/enviroment.
Thanks for enlighten me and I stand corrected....
I was not fully aware of that fact. Also, when I stated "underpinnings" I am thinking not only in a foundation, but also in an accesory operative system/enviroment.
Thanks for enlighten me and I stand corrected....
I like it just fine. I don't even see the big deal about no start menu. Nearly any average user I've seen operate the computer does not use the start menu except to shutdown. They just clutter the desktop with shortcuts.
Personally I hardly notice the difference between Windows 7 and 8. When I've used it on a x86 tablet I see how brilliant it is (though metro software is lacking). On a desktop I just go straight to the desktop and don't bother with metro. Then it feels just like Windows 7.
As for the Start Menu MS ruined it with Vista. In my opinion XP had the best Start Menu. When compared to the Vista/7 star menu I prefer getting Metro when I hit the Windows key (I always used the keyboard shortcut not the mouse for the start menu).
As when I want an infrequently used program or to search help in either the Start Menu or Metro I do the same exact thing. I hit the windows key and start typing. I prefer the metro method as more results can appear onscreen and come up faster. Plus I won't accidentally knock myself out of it like clicking outside the Start Menu.
Personally I hardly notice the difference between Windows 7 and 8. When I've used it on a x86 tablet I see how brilliant it is (though metro software is lacking). On a desktop I just go straight to the desktop and don't bother with metro. Then it feels just like Windows 7.
As for the Start Menu MS ruined it with Vista. In my opinion XP had the best Start Menu. When compared to the Vista/7 star menu I prefer getting Metro when I hit the Windows key (I always used the keyboard shortcut not the mouse for the start menu).
As when I want an infrequently used program or to search help in either the Start Menu or Metro I do the same exact thing. I hit the windows key and start typing. I prefer the metro method as more results can appear onscreen and come up faster. Plus I won't accidentally knock myself out of it like clicking outside the Start Menu.
8.1 fixed my two major problems with it on a desktop/non-touch laptop:
The start button is great, but not because it gets me to the start menu. Its great because of the right click menu it provides. Once you learn to just hit the windows key you wonder why you ever cared about using the mouse for the start menu (honestly the same on Windows 7 as well in this regard).
Search. Before a search had all the results sorted into categories. Now its all unified. Search is fast and is by far the fastest way to get around. I use OSX the same way so the change in workflow is minimal.
Anyone who views the aesthetics as childish or whatever probably says the same about iOS 7 so.. I can't take you seriously.
Use the OS for a bit, whether on a desktop or on a Surface or other tablet and you'll either realize its actually not bad or you'll realize that what you don't like is change regardless if it is good or bad.
Based on rumors about the next OS X people will bitch about how that looks too. Because apparently change is bad.
The start button is great, but not because it gets me to the start menu. Its great because of the right click menu it provides. Once you learn to just hit the windows key you wonder why you ever cared about using the mouse for the start menu (honestly the same on Windows 7 as well in this regard).
Search. Before a search had all the results sorted into categories. Now its all unified. Search is fast and is by far the fastest way to get around. I use OSX the same way so the change in workflow is minimal.
Anyone who views the aesthetics as childish or whatever probably says the same about iOS 7 so.. I can't take you seriously.
Use the OS for a bit, whether on a desktop or on a Surface or other tablet and you'll either realize its actually not bad or you'll realize that what you don't like is change regardless if it is good or bad.
Based on rumors about the next OS X people will bitch about how that looks too. Because apparently change is bad.
I don't like the looks of Windows 8. I can't say it's a failure since I have never used it but I do like the start menu. The looks of it were enough to drive me to OS X though when I had to get a new laptop this year. Windows XP and Windows 7 were my favorite Microsoft Operating Systems. Now I don't plan to ever go back to Windows.
Back when, at work, I had to examine Vista as a viable upgrade for over 4000 desktops. Two things happened - Vista was banished and at home, I got my first Mac as I was so angry at Micro$haft for putting out that garbage. XP and 7 are far more intelligent choices for the business world. - Especially if ran in "Windows Classic" so that support remains consistent and OS modifications for security can be done.
I think Win 8 is not a bad system for home users though I personally can't stand using it. Then again I cannot see wanting to have a 24" or greater touch screen when a mouse, trackball or other cursor control is far more expedient. For those that like Win 8, power to you. For me, I'll remain in the XP and Win 7 camp along with OSX.
My fav OS remains with OS/2 from days of yore.
Well, to my mind, Windows 8 fails even the basic tests of usability; I cannot turn the damned thing off (with ease)......in some ways, it is like returning to the dark old days of having to do everything the longest, most tedious way imaginable. Actually, it is an over-engineered piece of........technology. An absolute nightmare, in fact...
Yes, yes, of course the word to be used here, in this setting, is 'failure', not '- sigh - fail'. Once upon a time, in an earlier incarnation, when confronted with examples of effortlessly appalling student grammar while correcting countless student essays, I used to grit my teeth, bite my tongue, hiss horribly, and wield my pen to great effect.......
However, I'd quibble - just a little - with the word 'failure', when used in this specific context; while it has the merit of offering an accurate description, personally, the word that comes to my mind is 'nightmare'.......