Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Legion103

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Sep 13, 2012
565
385
With the new Apple Card 12 month plan for these products - does anyone plan on financing them for 12 months with the Apple Card and selling them brand new?

has anyone have any experience with this before?
 

0128672

Cancelled
Apr 16, 2020
5,962
4,783
You're saying keep the product unopened and try to sell it as new? The problem with that is it would be without the one-year warranty, which begins on the original purchase date. Why would you think anyone would want to buy one of these when they could buy new or an Apple refurb with a one-year warranty?
 

Legion103

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Sep 13, 2012
565
385
You're saying keep the product unopened and try to sell it as new? The problem with that is it would be without the one-year warranty, which begins on the original purchase date. Why would you think anyone would want to buy one of these when they could buy new or an Apple refurb with a one-year warranty?

let’s say a new MacBook costs $1500
Finance it for 12 months (pay whatever per month) and then sell it for a little less than 1500.
 

0128672

Cancelled
Apr 16, 2020
5,962
4,783
If it seems worth it to you to do it, it's possible. As a buyer, I wouldn't go for a new device without a warranty.
 

casperes1996

macrumors 604
Jan 26, 2014
7,599
5,770
Horsens, Denmark
let’s say a new MacBook costs $1500
Finance it for 12 months (pay whatever per month) and then sell it for a little less than 1500.

Then you lose the difference, and the purchasing party is losing the full warranty as Namara says. - It's basically a lose-lose. You're basically taking a small loan, and honestly I would highly recommend rethinking your financial choices instead. I mean there are sometimes situation where you need a bit extra here and now and are willing to make a small loss later on for it, and perhaps this will be a better way around that than the usual loan interest, but if you can, just wait until you can afford things without doing stuff like this. You won't have to lose the difference between the purchasing price and your selling cost.
 

chown33

Moderator
Staff member
Aug 9, 2009
10,999
8,887
A sea of green
I don't understand the business proposition. You buy something and sell it at a loss. A small loss, but it's still a loss. What's the point? There's no profit, so is there something else you hope to gain?

If the plan is to give money away and also have an outstanding debt on a credit card, there are simpler ways to achieve that goal.
 

mtneer

macrumors 68040
Sep 15, 2012
3,183
2,715
let’s say a new MacBook costs $1500
Finance it for 12 months (pay whatever per month) and then sell it for a little less than 1500.

I dont get the business plan? So you never open and enjoy the product yourself and furthermore you sell the unopened device for less than $1500, while you are on the hook for the entire $1500 to Apple Card???
 

leman

macrumors Core
Oct 14, 2008
19,522
19,679
I also don’t get the point. You will be losing at least 15-20% out right, and you dint even get to use your computer. If you are looking to lose some $$, I can gladly send you my PayPal account. Faster and simpler ;)
 

Abazigal

Contributor
Jul 18, 2011
20,392
23,894
Singapore
With the new Apple Card 12 month plan for these products - does anyone plan on financing them for 12 months with the Apple Card and selling them brand new?

has anyone have any experience with this before?

Isn’t that what some loan sharks do?
 

Legion103

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Sep 13, 2012
565
385
I don't understand the business proposition. You buy something and sell it at a loss. A small loss, but it's still a loss. What's the point? There's no profit, so is there something else you hope to gain?

If the plan is to give money away and also have an outstanding debt on a credit card, there are simpler ways to achieve that goal.

so basically you’re financing it for 12 months and taking a slight loss, while obtaining a 1400 or so immediate payment.
 
  • Like
Reactions: compwiz1202

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
and then sell it for a little less than 1500.
I don't think you understand the resale market, no one is going to be willing to pay you (or anyone) the same price that apple charges, regardless if the Mac you're selling is NIB. Plus, what advantage is it to you to buy it interest free on a credit card and then turn around and sell it for the same amount? Even if you could do that, it makes little financial sense to tie up your money like that.

I'm not sure about the details of the apple card, but if its like any other card, if you're late on a single payment, then the interest free option disappears and all accrued interest (from the date of purchase to the current period) is added on, so there's measure of risk in doing what you're proposing, just to get your 1,500 dollars back
 

Legion103

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Sep 13, 2012
565
385
I don't think you understand the resale market, no one is going to be willing to pay you (or anyone) the same price that apple charges, regardless if the Mac you're selling is NIB. Plus, what advantage is it to you to buy it interest free on a credit card and then turn around and sell it for the same amount? Even if you could do that, it makes little financial sense to tie up your money like that.

I'm not sure about the details of the apple card, but if its like any other card, if you're late on a single payment, then the interest free option disappears and all accrued interest (from the date of purchase to the current period) is added on, so there's measure of risk in doing what you're proposing, just to get your 1,500 dollars back

great point, ideally could sell it for 1350-1400? It then becomes a loan basically for 12 months.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
could sell it for 1350-1400? It then becomes a loan basically for 12 months.
I'm not sure, but say for the sake of argument, say you buy a Mac on an interest-free credit card just for the idea of selling it as NIB. You buy it for 1,500 and then sell it for 1,400. You just lost 100 dollars for no good reason.

If you open the Mac and start using it, then of course the price goes down, but then the dynamics of what you're doing is changing, that is recouping some of your money so you can put it towards a newer mac. You will still lose money, i.e., never get back what you put in it, but at least you lesson the blow of spending another 1,500.
 

chown33

Moderator
Staff member
Aug 9, 2009
10,999
8,887
A sea of green
great point, ideally could sell it for 1350-1400? It then becomes a loan basically for 12 months.
If you sell it for $1350, then you lost $150 on a $1500 transaction. So you've just paid what amounts to a non-refundable loan acquisition fee of 10%.

If your cash flow is so poor that this idea seems appealing, you're almost certainly going to be better off selling any expensive assets you already own (and have finished paying for), such as phones or other electronics.
 

Legion103

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Sep 13, 2012
565
385
I didn’t realize that Apple will deduct the full amount from your credit limit?

what is the point of that? Why not just pay in full then?

seems quite annoying, it really isn’t a monthly payment then...
 

Dwood1970

macrumors 6502
Jan 7, 2012
420
292
I didn’t realize that Apple will deduct the full amount from your credit limit?

what is the point of that? Why not just pay in full then?

seems quite annoying, it really isn’t a monthly payment then...

It’s interest free for 12 months. Some just don’t want to pay that all at once.
 

AZhappyjack

Suspended
Jul 3, 2011
10,183
23,657
Happy Jack, AZ
I didn’t realize that Apple will deduct the full amount from your credit limit?

what is the point of that? Why not just pay in full then?

seems quite annoying, it really isn’t a monthly payment then...

Why would Apple/Goldman-Sachs NOT deduct the full amount from your credit limit? If you have a $6000 limit, how many times do you expect to be able to finance a $1500 item? Not a trick question - the answer is FOUR unless other factors enter in - like running up your credit card balance begins to make you a bad risk for the credit card company.

In the absolutely best case scenario, after all of this, you break even. Realistically, you will have lost $500-1000 on this scam.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.