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Chairman.Jobbie

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Im looking Tradingview - stocks and charts. So it has a live chart and down the side panel its pulling prices.

The 8g Ram M1 Pro is totally fine and no lag or fan noise but the message is there. There is 6gb swap memory and 36% pressure.

It's making me consider the 16gb.

However, I would get this message with my 2018 Intel 16gb Ram MacBook Pro.. - but the fans might be on and it would be running hot, esp if was watching something and or charging the mac.

So I'm wondering whether it would come up anyway as a "take a look" or whether an M1 laptop with 16gb would "fix" this.

But there is no performance issue - just the warning.
 

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Gnattu

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This warning is more related to the webpage itself, not the amount of RAM you are having.

There is 6gb swap memory and 36% pressure

By the way, 6GB swap looks like a lot to me, you will benefit from 16GB if you have to use that amount of swap.
 
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BeatCrazy

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I get that same warning on my 32GB iMac Pro. So throwing more RAM at the problem won’t make that error go away.
 
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IowaLynn

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Sounds like there are tons of threads running amuck with what may be poor Javascript or something else.

Do you have access to a Windows machine?
 

Chairman.Jobbie

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1. Im using safari and I think other browsers hog more memory. Id prefer to stick with Safari for everything, I don't need extensions in chrome or anything.

2. My 2018 intel MBP had 9-10gb swap memory at times and always ran hot. I'm not doing anything intensive but maybe the windows server is having to work in the background to keep all the charts and prices up to date.

But only 37-40 degrees and no fan. Im also charging as I type. My Intel would be sweating right now.

I just gave my Intel MBP in to have the keyboard replaced - you get a new battery as well as its all glued together :) (under the keyboard warranty). As soon as its back in 10 days it'll be straight on eBay. Hopefully it hasn't depreciated too much in that time.
 
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Chairman.Jobbie

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Memory stats.
I have about 5 safari windows with maybe 20-25 tabs across all of them.
Numbers spreadsheet.
Nothing intensive and no video actively playing.
A few of the tabs have charts open.
 

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IowaLynn

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I use Edge and it runs exceptionally well.

I don't run extensions, Safari or Edge except AdGuard Pro. And a big no to Chrome - but they are sprucing it up (and Microsoft contributes back).

Sometimes you test just to test, not to jump on another horse.

PS: just saw graph.

Comment: Windows uses "committed" used as virtual address space - isn't being physically used. I wonder if Apple is reporting memory similarly - different from before the m1

Does Terminal top show more raw figures?
 
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Spindel

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I got it on Catalina on my old iMac with 24 GB RAM.

It’s not an M1 specific message but just a warning that some particular site takes a lot of memory and runs many processes and this might slow down your computer and drain your battery (if on a laptop).

Not gotten it so far on my 16 gb M1 mini on Big Sur.
 

Runs For Fun

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I got this warning for MR yesterday. I checked Activity Monitor and the MR tab was using over 2GB. Closed and reopened the tab and it's been fine since. It's probably a memory leak somewhere. I know there have been reports of the latest Safari leaking memory.
 

dachshundx

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What do you use for actual execution of trades? I use TradeStation, but their web-based trading platform leaves something to be desired. And of course they don't have a macOS version of their desktop platform.
 

digitalbreak

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I do get this warning when I open large design files in Figma website. Figma is notorious for consuming tons of memory.

However, in this case, I think its the browser warning rather than the system warning about the high usage. So technically it may not be affecting your system.
 
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Chairman.Jobbie

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This is an 8gb M1 Pro. I got the first beach ball and stuttering.
I have 5 safari windows open with maybe 20-25 tabs.
1 window is Twitch watching a 900p stream
3-4 tabs have trading view charts and trading exchange website - a lot of number crunching/pulling data.
I was watching a YouTube vid and it started freezing.
It settled down after 30 seconds and everything seems ok.
No Fan - or its so quiet I can't hear it...but at 44 degrees unlikely.
It is plugged in but at 100%.
Miles better than my MBP 16gb ram intel.

To be honest this 8gb is fine. But it did for a moment show its limit.
I can easily close a few things I don't need to be on all the time.

Tomorrow I get the 16gb Pro delivered.
I can see which sites are consuming memory on activity monitor.
I'll try the same setup on 16gb and see what happens.
Then I can decide if 16gb is worth it.

Twitch is using 25% cpu and windows server is using 35%.
Both are using around 30-40% GPU
Kernel task about 10% cpu.

Ill decide over the weekend.
 

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leman

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It’s either a badly coded website or it hits a particular edge case in Safari, most likely both.
 

Sanpete

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As others said, that warning is only about that page, not general memory usage. If you close the tab and then reopen it from memory, the warning goes away for a while, but may come back if you leave the tab open long enough. I get that warning for MacRumors and some other pages from time to time, pages that are continually running new routines for ads or updates or whatever. I wish there were a way to turn off the warnings in preferences, but as far as I know, there isn't.
 

Six0Four

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I had this issue with safari just watching 1080p youtube videos. Reluctantly switched to chrome.
 

Chairman.Jobbie

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I turned off 1blocker and safari memory use goes from gb's to mb's.. but now I have ads. Interesting. Any alternatives to 1blocker?
 

Anonymous Freak

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Im looking Tradingview - stocks and charts. So it has a live chart and down the side panel its pulling prices.

The 8g Ram M1 Pro is totally fine and no lag or fan noise but the message is there. There is 6gb swap memory and 36% pressure.

It's making me consider the 16gb.

However, I would get this message with my 2018 Intel 16gb Ram MacBook Pro.. - but the fans might be on and it would be running hot, esp if was watching something and or charging the mac.

So I'm wondering whether it would come up anyway as a "take a look" or whether an M1 laptop with 16gb would "fix" this.

But there is no performance issue - just the warning.
I regularly get that warning for Twitter on my 32 GB Intel Mac.

The warning isn't "your entire system is using too much RAM" it's Safari saying that "this web page is using more RAM that we think a reasonable web page should."

I also get it on my new 16 GB M1 Mac mini - but it doesn't seem to actually ever slow anything down.
 

acidfast7_redux

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I turned off 1blocker and safari memory use goes from gb's to mb's.. but now I have ads. Interesting. Any alternatives to 1blocker?
What's the big deal really?

I get my brain to actively cancel them and it's good training for the outside urban world where I'm bombarded with ads.

This attempt has already caused you frustration enough, or?
 

Chairman.Jobbie

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What's the big deal really?

I get my brain to actively cancel them and it's good training for the outside urban world where I'm bombarded with ads.

This attempt has already caused you frustration enough, or?

The big deal is I prefer not to have big banners at the top most pages and possible interspersed throughout ruining the format of an article - either blinking or static. It is itself a resource hog both on the laptop and the brain.

If you can live with them, good for you.

I turned on just the Adblocking on 1Blocker and it might be ok. Need to check properly later.

Either way this is about optimising performance rather than a negative on the M1.

M1 MacBooks (8gb ram or otherwise) are superb and work perfectly well for my usage.
No heat, no fans and probably an average of 15 hours battery - basically a full day or 2 depending on usage.
I've used the laptop for around 3h this morning and the battery is at 87%.
 
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IowaLynn

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I use AdGuard Pro. I also was using NoScript in FF. Uour choice.

Ads are resource hogs, come from dubious ad servers, and serve no real purpose - but I also pay to use this site and others.

I only started using ad blockers after encountering Android Central. Not only are ads overboard the web site looks terrible and thought this can't be right. Video ads? Really?
 
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