Does Pro Engineer, Rhino Work on Mac via bootcamp or parrellels?

[iTindle]

Hi,

I have a couple of questions which i was wondering if anyone could help me with.
My situation is im a Product Design Tech student at University, the majority of our computer work is done using PC and i have near to no knowledge with them.
The School offers us the use of programmes such as Pro Enginnerer, SolidWorks and Rhino, which i have had trouble tracking down for Mac.
I am running a MacBook 2.0ghz Core Duo (Not Core 2 Duo) with 1GB memory and 100GB HD.

My first Question is do these programmes exist for Mac?
2) Will they run on my Macbook?
3) If they aren't available will they run using bootcamp, parrellels or crossover?
4) which PC on Mac solution is the best?

Thank You very much for you time!

 

[SpookTheHamster]

Anything that exists for Windows will run just as well with Boot Camp, which would probably be the best solution for you, they're quite intensive programs, and I'm not sure how fast Parallels would be with them.

 

[dukebound85]

i have a c1d blackbook with 768mb ram and it runs ProE just fine in bootcamp. Havent tried parallels and it also worked with just 512mb ram

hope that helps

and no I know ProE does not have a mac version

 

[Sesshi]

Definitely run it in Boot Camp, you'll get nothing done in Parallels given your RAM... but the Macbook is too low powered to run those apps properly in any case.

 

[iTindle]

Thats Brilliant information!

Thanks very much!

 

[ddekker]

Pro Engineer

As a eleven year user of Pro Engineer and multi year user of Rhino, I can tell you that they do not exsist for apple, Pro E runs on Windows, Linux, and Unix (so everything but OS X) I would say both rhino and Pro E should run fine on bootcamp, depending on how good the Open GL drivers are for the video card, I know that the macbook uses intel graphics and it will run but I'd hate to use it everyday where as the macbook Pro uses far better Video. Please post your results if you go this way, I'd love to know how it runs.

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[bremaria]

Pro Engineer in Parallels

I just got my first ever Mac, a Macbook Pro 2.16ghz with 1gb Ram. I've used pro/engineer at work for the last 5 years, so I was very interested in finding out how proe runs on the Mac. I installed proe 2001 (I have a custom application at work that requires this old version) in parallels and it seemed to run fine. I created a solid protrusion, shaded it and rotated it w/o any performance issues.

I also installed proe wildfire 3.0 in parallels and it didn't do as well. Just clicking the sketcher icon had a delay to bring it up, and when I shaded it and tried to rotate it, it would spin a little then pause while it was redrawing the lines.

I just found the system monitor that tells you how much ram you have free (remember, I'm new to Mac), and found out that I used up all my RAM while running wildfire in parallels. I can't remember how much memory I allocated to parallels, but I know it wasn't very much. Just ordered another gb of ram, so we'll see if that helps. I'll write an update after I get more ram.

I am weary trying bootcamp b/c I don't want to give up that space and I heard if you uninstall it, the computer takes longer to boot while it looks for available OS's to start. I'm really enjoying it only taking 10-15 seconds to boot up! Does anyone know if this is still true?

 

[klaxamazoo]

I just got my first ever Mac, a Macbook Pro 2.16ghz with 1gb Ram. I've used pro/engineer at work for the last 5 years, so I was very interested in finding out how proe runs on the Mac. I installed proe 2001 (I have a custom application at work that requires this old version) in parallels and it seemed to run fine. I created a solid protrusion, shaded it and rotated it w/o any performance issues.

I also installed proe wildfire 3.0 in parallels and it didn't do as well. Just clicking the sketcher icon had a delay to bring it up, and when I shaded it and tried to rotate it, it would spin a little then pause while it was redrawing the lines.

I just found the system monitor that tells you how much ram you have free (remember, I'm new to Mac), and found out that I used up all my RAM while running wildfire in parallels. I can't remember how much memory I allocated to parallels, but I know it wasn't very much. Just ordered another gb of ram, so we'll see if that helps. I'll write an update after I get more ram.

I am weary trying bootcamp b/c I don't want to give up that space and I heard if you uninstall it, the computer takes longer to boot while it looks for available OS's to start. I'm really enjoying it only taking 10-15 seconds to boot up! Does anyone know if this is still true?

I use BootCamp for my CAD needs and I haven't noticed any additional boot time.

I am curious about why everyone still uses ProE. I've been a Mechanical Engineer for 5 years now and have used ProE, Solid Works, AutoCAD and CoCreate's Solid Designer and I must say that ProE is the worst of the CAD systems currently out there. It has a horribly complicated PLM solution, poor interface and history-based Parametric design is just such a poor way to design.

Once you've used a dynamics based modeller you never go back. I would highly suggest that those of you still stuck using ProE to take a look at CoCreate's Solid Designer. I love designing when I do contract work for customers that use it (mainly HP). It is just such a releif to not have to worry about how my model might need to be changed and I can focus on my product instead.

 

[bremaria]

I just got my first ever Mac, a Macbook Pro 2.16ghz with 1gb Ram. I've used pro/engineer at work for the last 5 years, so I was very interested in finding out how proe runs on the Mac. I installed proe 2001 (I have a custom application at work that requires this old version) in parallels and it seemed to run fine. I created a solid protrusion, shaded it and rotated it w/o any performance issues.

I also installed proe wildfire 3.0 in parallels and it didn't do as well. Just clicking the sketcher icon had a delay to bring it up, and when I shaded it and tried to rotate it, it would spin a little then pause while it was redrawing the lines.

I just found the system monitor that tells you how much ram you have free (remember, I'm new to Mac), and found out that I used up all my RAM while running wildfire in parallels. I can't remember how much memory I allocated to parallels, but I know it wasn't very much. Just ordered another gb of ram, so we'll see if that helps. I'll write an update after I get more ram.

I am weary trying bootcamp b/c I don't want to give up that space and I heard if you uninstall it, the computer takes longer to boot while it looks for available OS's to start. I'm really enjoying it only taking 10-15 seconds to boot up! Does anyone know if this is still true?

UPDATE:
I just got my second gig of ram and installed it. Originally I only had 256mb for parallels and it was maxing out my total ram. I increased Window XP's ram allowance to 512. Now, while running XP in parallels with Wildfire 3 running, I didn't get near maxing out either the Mac or Window's ram. There still is a slow drawing of the lines when you rotate, but it doesn't stop the model from spinning. The smart select lags the cursor by a second. With only a quick check, I think it performs at a level that would be enjoyable to use. I might try to find some config.pro options to speed up the line redrawing later.