If you want something with a great keyboard, then consider a Lenovo thinkpad, imo, they have the best keyboard. I can't believe how good they are and the Lenovo Thinkpad Extreme (I forget what revision its on) offers great performance, and components for a very good price (Lenovo frequently offers deep discounts).
Its not as sexy as the XPS, or MBP, to be sure, but its what us under the hood that makes this a great machine
Fair enough, I can't speak about the keyboards of a dell, or even MBP. I've not really like Apple's keyboards but that's just a personal preference.I have been using thinkpad for around ten years in a job so I want to try something new lol
I only used basic models for the job, so I can buy expensive model for myself lol that may feel different. I agree ThinkPad has great keyboard for programming and no issue with Ubuntu Windows dual boot.Fair enough, I can't speak about the keyboards of a dell, or even MBP. I've not really like Apple's keyboards but that's just a personal preference.
The Dell XPS 13 or even 15 best feature is all day typing, I love the feel, flow and space between the keys.
Hopefully they are some available now, there was a 1 month wait 2 weeks ago.
No. The better keyboard than apples current one and old (2012-2015) is think pad and thats kind of itThe keys are much closer in XPS 13/15 comparing to Air/Pro. Any experience to share? I will buy a laptop mainly for php programming and I will use it for many hours everyday.
I had (in 2018-2019) some HP laptops in my office and everyone from my staff cried about the heat and bios/driver issues
Maybe today HP are better but.. when you have the upcoming Mbp at wwdc (probably) or lenovo ..why risk the time?
You could try some Hp until wwdc and return them if you dont like them
That too...People have difficult time installing Ubuntu in HP notebook too.
That too...
Can you wait until WWDC? if you want to try something new like 14"/16" mbp (since i understand you are currently using Lenovo thinkpad now)
Or, if you want windows , and not lenovo, i would go with Dell
I have used some ThinkPads and Dell Latitudes at work. Both have great keyboards, and, surprisingly, I tend to prefer the Dell Latitude. Somehow I prefer typing on the Dell Latitude, I feel it has a solid keyboard.If you want something with a great keyboard, then consider a Lenovo thinkpad, imo, they have the best keyboard. I can't believe how good they are and the Lenovo Thinkpad Extreme (I forget what revision its on) offers great performance, and components for a very good price (Lenovo frequently offers deep discounts).
Its not as sexy as the XPS, or MBP, to be sure, but its what us under the hood that makes this a great machine
Ditto Studio Mercury white version, but I have MS BT KB for docked modeIf you're open to other suggestions outside the Apple world. Razer is ok as well, if anything I find the trackpad a little problematic. Specifically got those for the GPUs in it (got a RTX 5000 in mine), but using it docked for most of the time due to no traveling right now.
If only... I found the butterfly keyboards to be the best keyboards I've used so far. Better than any if my mechanicals. I've never had a problem with failing keys on my personal devices, but I've always kept them very clean. The iteration after butterfly (starting late 2019 if I remember correctly) doesn't feel like butterfly at all. It's ok for mobile use, but whenever possible I use a mechanical KB (that's true for Dell and Lenovo as well). I have a mix of Alps, MX blue, brown, red, Kailh blue, brown, red. Used to have Gateron Browns as well. I have my hopes up for Choc whites now, but I'm still waiting for some custom keycaps I've ordered back in February. Expect them to arrive next month, all will be used in a split layout with Kyria PCB. If the whites don't work for me, then pales next.Macbooks were great until the butterfly garbage, they never fixed the feel only the fact that crumbs could not block the key.
The 2019 MacBooks had butterfly keys yet we are in 2021 with the Magic Keyboard.my son has a 2016 macbook air. Keyboard is nice. I tried the 2019 macbook keyboard at best buy and it's no where as good as my cheap dell keyboard. It's garbage. add in the keys screwing up constantly with it. NO THANKS.