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mantan

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Nov 2, 2009
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I bought a Nexus 7 the same week the iPad Mini was announced at $329. I figured I was going to vote with my wallet this time. I dismissed the standard almost cliched arguments about android (buggy, laggy) and admitted shortcomings (limited tablet apps). I loved the screen, size and durability.

For the first few months I loved it. The screen was great, most of the apps I wanted were there - it seemed to run fine. I did have a problem with the screen completely washing out...ASUS had given me an RMA, but the problem went away and never came back.

But over time it's seemed like it's become slower and slower. Too many apps get the dreaed 'Wait/Report/Ignore' warning. Now I can't it's not staying connected to my router if I'm on the other side of the house. (All my other devices from laptops to cell phones are getting a full signal.)

All the cliches seem to have an element of truth. Pretty disappointing.
 

maxosx

macrumors 68020
Dec 13, 2012
2,385
1
Southern California
I bought my Nexus 7 the first day they were released. It's just terrific.

With much heavier use than I anticipated its as fast & fun as day one.

So is my iPad Mini.

I happen to like both Android & iOS. Each for its strengths & unique features. However their is one big problem.

Just because they're both tablets, users who come from iPads or iPhones fail to learn enough to realize Android is a different OS, and as such it's the users responsibility to learn how to properly use Android. Just like its a Windows users responsibility to learn OS X when switching to a Mac.

Quick to condemn Android the moment anything fails to go their way, the new user is cheating themselves out of a great experience. For some reason they seem to think they can judge after a short period of time, even though they haven't learned much.

Or they say iPhone is simpler. That's true to a certain extent since iPhone has less features & capabilities than Android.

Notice I DID NOT say iPhone is inferior. I DID NOT say Android is better.

They are each different, unique, fun and useful. My iPad Mini & iPhone 5 are a nice combo, as are my Nexus 4 & Nexus 7.

YMMV
 

sectime

macrumors 6502a
Jul 29, 2007
530
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I bought a Nexus 7 the same week the iPad Mini was announced at $329. I figured I was going to vote with my wallet this time. I dismissed the standard almost cliched arguments about android (buggy, laggy) and admitted shortcomings (limited tablet apps). I loved the screen, size and durability.

For the first few months I loved it. The screen was great, most of the apps I wanted were there - it seemed to run fine. I did have a problem with the screen completely washing out...ASUS had given me an RMA, but the problem went away and never came back.

But over time it's seemed like it's become slower and slower. Too many apps get the dreaed 'Wait/Report/Ignore' warning. Now I can't it's not staying connected to my router if I'm on the other side of the house. (All my other devices from laptops to cell phones are getting a full signal.)

All the cliches seem to have an element of truth. Pretty disappointing.
We all assume that you did a hard reset and/or restore cause you know that fixes things sometimes. :cool:
 

aneftp

macrumors 601
Jul 28, 2007
4,374
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Android =Windows PC

iOS =MAC OSX


I know how to use both. So won't bash either one. Many of Androids problems are from some bad third party apps. Do a fresh restore. See how that goes. Than start re adding apps one by one.

I restore by windows pc every 2-3 months to keep it running in top shape. Doesn't take me more than 2 hours and I do it when I am doing laundry/watching sports. No big deal.
 

mantan

macrumors 68000
Original poster
Nov 2, 2009
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DFW
I bought my Nexus 7 the first day they were released. It's just terrific.

With much heavier use than I anticipated its as fast & fun as day one.

So is my iPad Mini.

I happen to like both Android & iOS. Each for its strengths & unique features. However their is one big problem.

Just because they're both tablets, users who come from iPads or iPhones fail to learn enough to realize Android is a different OS, and as such it's the users responsibility to learn how to properly use Android. Just like its a Windows users responsibility to learn OS X when switching to a Mac.

Quick to condemn Android the moment anything fails to go their way, the new user is cheating themselves out of a great experience. For some reason they seem to think they can judge after a short period of time, even though they haven't learned much.

Or they say iPhone is simpler. That's true to a certain extent since iPhone has less features & capabilities than Android.

Notice I DID NOT say iPhone is inferior. I DID NOT say Android is better.

They are each different, unique, fun and useful. My iPad Mini & iPhone 5 are a nice combo, as are my Nexus 4 & Nexus 7.

YMMV

I don't think a device not connecting to my router if I'm further than 20 feet away or crashing out using stock apps comes down to 'learning it's a different OS.'

Learning the device was a snap. But if I can't connect to the wifi when I'm in another room of the house is a problem. :)

I'll try to restore it and see if that helps. Believe me, I really wanted to love this device...and did when it worked correctly.
 

maxosx

macrumors 68020
Dec 13, 2012
2,385
1
Southern California
I don't think a device not connecting to my router if I'm further than 20 feet away or crashing out using stock apps comes down to 'learning it's a different OS.'

Learning the device was a snap. But if I can't connect to the wifi when I'm in another room of the house is a problem. :)

I'll try to restore it and see if that helps. Believe me, I really wanted to love this device...and did when it worked correctly.

Not to over simplify, perhaps it's defective or you need to do a clean install. The wifi issue you're experiencing is especially unusual. I enjoyed my Nexus 7 so much I bought three more for my wife & kids. If my kids can't break it they must be durable :)
 

b166er

macrumors 68020
Apr 17, 2010
2,062
18
Philly
I really like my Nexus 7 but I can't say it's flawless. It definitely has lag, and the screen flickers in normal lighting. I bought it to get familiar with Android, and as it turns out I use it daily now. I find it to be the perfect size for reading in bed, and it's just small enough to make it easy to bring it with me on the go to school or work. So it has its pros and cons. I think I'm going to get an Android phone in the near future and then get the next gen iPad mini to replace the Nexus. I like to keep things flip flopping because each platform offers a lot and it's nice to stay in the loop as things progress.
 

blackhand1001

macrumors 68030
Jan 6, 2009
2,600
37
I bought a Nexus 7 the same week the iPad Mini was announced at $329. I figured I was going to vote with my wallet this time. I dismissed the standard almost cliched arguments about android (buggy, laggy) and admitted shortcomings (limited tablet apps). I loved the screen, size and durability.

For the first few months I loved it. The screen was great, most of the apps I wanted were there - it seemed to run fine. I did have a problem with the screen completely washing out...ASUS had given me an RMA, but the problem went away and never came back.

But over time it's seemed like it's become slower and slower. Too many apps get the dreaed 'Wait/Report/Ignore' warning. Now I can't it's not staying connected to my router if I'm on the other side of the house. (All my other devices from laptops to cell phones are getting a full signal.)

All the cliches seem to have an element of truth. Pretty disappointing.

The wait/report/ignore warning is not normal. Definitely try doing a factory reset.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
I do a restore on my iOS devices every 6 months or so. It makes a huge difference!

I've yet to use an OS mobile or not that doesn't get cluttered and slow down a bit with time Android included.

iOS can be a memory hog. In iTunes look at "other" in the storage used. Even if I delete all my messages, emails, every bit of app data its still 2 gb or more. I actually believe Android manages storage space a bit better but I never really compared apples to apples to have a fair comparison.

Using a 3rd party PC program to clean the cache in iOS helps a lot but a restore is the cure. It will get the "other" usage much lower then you can on the phone or with automatic Mac/PC programs that clean cache. It's annoying being bothered with this actually, surprised I don't need to defrag my iPhone.
 

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
14,738
6,109
I do a restore on my iOS devices every 6 months or so. It makes a huge difference!

I've yet to use an OS mobile or not that doesn't get cluttered and slow down a bit with time Android included.

iOS can be a memory hog. In iTunes look at "other" in the storage used. Even if I delete all my messages, emails, every bit of app data its still 2 gb or more. I actually believe Android manages storage space a bit better but I never really compared apples to apples to have a fair comparison.

Using a 3rd party PC program to clean the cache in iOS helps a lot but a restore is the cure. It will get the "other" usage much lower then you can on the phone or with automatic Mac/PC programs that clean cache. It's annoying being bothered with this actually, surprised I don't need to defrag my iPhone.

That is pretty much the opposite of my experience. From basically the iphone 4 on, I have not noticed a difference in speed from doing a fresh install. Granted I only use about 3-4 gigs of space on my phone haha
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
That is pretty much the opposite of my experience. From basically the iphone 4 on, I have not noticed a difference in speed from doing a fresh install. Granted I only use about 3-4 gigs of space on my phone haha

First time I did it was because I was having issues. I just noticed the speed and data usage as a side effect. Ever since I do it about every six months.

Oddly enough the speed slow downs I notice at in native apps. Message is the worst. Clicking on pics will hang, I'll get notifications about text but it will take time to pop up in the message window, etc.
 

Shaun.P

macrumors 68000
Jul 14, 2003
1,601
24
Omicron Persei 8
I bought my Nexus 7 the first day they were released. It's just terrific.

With much heavier use than I anticipated its as fast & fun as day one.

So is my iPad Mini.

I happen to like both Android & iOS. Each for its strengths & unique features. However their is one big problem.

Just because they're both tablets, users who come from iPads or iPhones fail to learn enough to realize Android is a different OS, and as such it's the users responsibility to learn how to properly use Android. Just like its a Windows users responsibility to learn OS X when switching to a Mac.

Quick to condemn Android the moment anything fails to go their way, the new user is cheating themselves out of a great experience. For some reason they seem to think they can judge after a short period of time, even though they haven't learned much.

Or they say iPhone is simpler. That's true to a certain extent since iPhone has less features & capabilities than Android.

Notice I DID NOT say iPhone is inferior. I DID NOT say Android is better.

They are each different, unique, fun and useful. My iPad Mini & iPhone 5 are a nice combo, as are my Nexus 4 & Nexus 7.

YMMV

I like your argument.
 

Tarzanman

macrumors 65816
Jul 16, 2010
1,304
15
I have noticed some slowdown on my Nexus, but I attribute it to constantly being on. I probably turn it off like once every 6 weeks or something.

I don't have any of the app problems that you have, though :-/

Dunno. My plan is to sell it and upgrade to the newer one coming out later this year (assuming that the new one has more to offer than just a nicer screen).
 
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