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animatedude

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1) Earlier this year: Flat-edged iPhones

2) New Rumor: MacBook with more ports

3) New Rumor: MacBook with more ports, MagSafe and no touchbar

4) New Rumor: lower-priced external monitor

Let's just hope iPhone SE 3 is mini enough ;)
 
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milehigh7

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Apple pipeline hasn't been this good for a long time. Super excited about (4). About time they finally kill the touchbar. I never saw the point of more ports though. Super happy with the USB-C ports since 2016. Wouldn't mind charging ports on the right side of some Macbooks :)
 

Falhófnir

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To inject a little friendly debate here, what makes the squared edges on the phones an objectively more 'common sense' design choice? I can see preferring the design stylistically, but on a practical level there's even some commentary that it makes the 12 Pro Max more uncomfortable to hold than the 11 Pro Max was. From an aesthetic standpoint, the aluminium iPhone 12 looks really good, but the stainless mirror finish on the 12 Pro doesn't suit this design like it did the previous versions (IMO).

With the MacBooks I see it more as a recognition their design philosophy since the '08 introduction of the unibody design has run its course. Sure with Apple Silicon they probably could make a thinner, lighter, faster, more wireless MacBook Pro, but at this point it raises the question is that actually a better MacBook Pro, or just a MacBook Pro that's taken that design philosophy further? I guess in that way you could argue its a sort of coming to their senses, in that they've recognised the compromises they made with the Touch Bar models haven't been universally popular, or particularly successful.

I agree it was always odd to eschew making a monitor, probably a reflection of their limited engineering resources (in relative terms, for a company of their size) while also allowing ballooning product lines.
 

bousozoku

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2020 iPhone SE is mini enough already. There is no need to decrease battery capacity.

As well, Apple can stop with their everything-should-be-thinner philosophy. Too hot is too hot.
 

kylew1212

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To inject a little friendly debate here, what makes the squared edges on the phones an objectively more 'common sense' design choice? I can see preferring the design stylistically, but on a practical level there's even some commentary that it makes the 12 Pro Max more uncomfortable to hold than the 11 Pro Max was. From an aesthetic standpoint, the aluminium iPhone 12 looks really good, but the stainless mirror finish on the 12 Pro doesn't suit this design like it did the previous versions (IMO).

With the MacBooks I see it more as a recognition their design philosophy since the '08 introduction of the unibody design has run its course. Sure with Apple Silicon they probably could make a thinner, lighter, faster, more wireless MacBook Pro, but at this point it raises the question is that actually a better MacBook Pro, or just a MacBook Pro that's taken that design philosophy further? I guess in that way you could argue its a sort of coming to their senses, in that they've recognised the compromises they made with the Touch Bar models haven't been universally popular, or particularly successful.

I agree it was always odd to eschew making a monitor, probably a reflection of their limited engineering resources (in relative terms, for a company of their size) while also allowing ballooning product lines.

Caveat** What I'm about to say is a guess since I haven't actually seen a flat edge iPhone in person..

One benefit that I "think" I like about the flat edge iPhones would be for the screen protector to completely cover the screen. For the last several iPhones there is a small gap between where the screen protector ends and the actual edge of the phone.

That's an advantage IMO.

-- edited-- for better English
 
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Geepaw

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3) New Rumor: MacBook with more ports, MagSafe and no touchbar

I am very excited about this particular rumor. It will represent a return to greatness. I also feel that it harkens a new strategy for Apple to rely less on form differentiation and instead use its chip set design, operating system and ecosystem as a way to differentiate its product offerings. This means more reliability and less polarizing form factors going forward. Very good stuff.
 

Td1970

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2020 iPhone SE is mini enough already. There is no need to decrease battery capacity.

As well, Apple can stop with their everything-should-be-thinner philosophy. Too hot is too hot.
Same with weight. The phone weighs ounces. If holding it is tiring. I dont know what to say.
 
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Pakaku

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To inject a little friendly debate here, what makes the squared edges on the phones an objectively more 'common sense' design choice? I can see preferring the design stylistically, but on a practical level there's even some commentary that it makes the 12 Pro Max more uncomfortable to hold than the 11 Pro Max was.
I can only speak for my own experience with a 6S and an iPhone 4 (which is much thicker than the 12), but I always felt like the rounded edges of the 6S dug more into my fingers/thumb when gripping the sides. It doesn't feel like I get that sort of discomfort from flat sides, and I personally kind of like the way the edges feel in the palm of my hand.
 
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Mousse

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Same with weight. The phone weighs ounces. If holding it is tiring. I dont know what to say.
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I'm so glad Apple is going allowing function to matter instead of form dictating everything. More ports on the new MacBooks. Woot! The engineers are probably glad to have the cuffs off instead of having to build around ridiculous design constraints.

I'm glad they don't go overboard with the ports like a lot of business laptops.
 
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bousozoku

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Same with weight. The phone weighs ounces. If holding it is tiring. I dont know what to say.
Even the laptop computers are light enough.

I had a Lenovo Flex 3 and the whole idea of using a flexible laptop computer as a tablet was ludicrous. It was okay as a computer or even in tent mode, but there is a reason tablets are so much better for personal use--weight and size.
 

motulist

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3) New Rumor: MacBook with more ports, MagSafe and no touchbar

I am very excited about this particular rumor. It will represent a return to greatness. I also feel that it harkens a new strategy for Apple to rely less on form differentiation and instead use its chip set design, operating system and ecosystem as a way to differentiate its product offerings. This means more reliability and less polarizing form factors going forward. Very good stuff.
That's a great point. When apple was using the same components as other manufacturers did, tat made apple feel they had to differentiate their hardware through other design choices. Now that apple is using custom components their devices are already gonna be very differentiated, so they can go back to making the ports and other features more useful and less flashy again.
 
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Tech198

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1) Earlier this year: Flat-edged iPhones

2) New Rumor: MacBook with more ports

3) New Rumor: MacBook with more ports, MagSafe and no touchbar

4) New Rumor: lower-priced external monitor

Let's just hope iPhone SE 3 is mini enough ;)

Yep, something i always make a point to toss up..

I mean if the number of users buying new products, only returning to the origins, i'd be slightly richer by the number of plans that had gone through.. to do a full circle..

Then again, some people spend their whole time going round and round. I think i lost count.

That's why I have my MBA 2017..
 
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