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SheerGold

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Hello everyone,

I wanted to create a USB Ventura 13.4.1 iso installer, by downloading macOS 13.4.1, using Terminal.

Therefore, since the previous version of Ventura, which is 13.4, was installed on a separate APFS Volume.

I tried using both of these Terminal commands:
softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer --full-installer-version 13.4.1
softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer

Terminal showed these results:

For the command, softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer --full-installer-version 13.4.1, Terminal showed:
Last login: Sat Jul 8 02:51:10 on console
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer --full-installer-version 13.4.1
Scanning for 13.4.1 installer
Scanning for installer
Install finished successfully
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ %

But there was no installer anywhere on my Mac.

So I then tried using softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer.
At the end of the fetch-full-installer download, Terminal showed:
Last login: Fri Jul 7 0218:02:30 on ttys000
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer
Scanning for installer
Install finished successfully
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ %

But there was no installer anywhere on my Mac.

Anyone know of a fix that will make downloading Ventura 13.4.1 iso, using Terminal, work?
 

SheerGold

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bogdanw

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Ventura 13.4.1 InstallAssistant.pkg installs "Install macOS Ventura" app in Applications

Code:
https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/36/06/042-01917-A_B57IOY75IU/oocuh8ap7y8l8vhu6ria5aqk7edd262orj/InstallAssistant.pkg

link from "macOS Ventura Full Installer Database. Download Directly from Apple!" https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-ventura-13-full-installer-database-download-directly-from-apple/

Create bootable Ventura installer

Code:
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume

Apple Support "Create a bootable installer for macOS" https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372
 

SheerGold

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Hi bogdanw,

But both of those links,
That only downloads Install macOS Ventura 13.4.1.

But what I need is: Ventura 13.4.1 ISO
 

bogdanw

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Apple does not provide ISO files. Why do you need an ISO file? You can create one if necessary.
 
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SheerGold

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I wanted to create a USB macOS installer, so that I could install macOS 13.4.1, onto a Windows VM using Parallels.
 

bogdanw

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I don’t really understand what you are trying to do, but here is how to create a Ventura ISO from the Install macOS Ventura.app

Code:
hdiutil create ~/Desktop/13.dmg -size 20g -layout SPUD -fs HFS+J

hdiutil attach ~/Desktop/13.dmg -noverify -nobrowse -mountpoint /Volumes/InstallVentura

sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/InstallVentura

hdiutil detach /Volumes/Install\ macOS\ Ventura

hdiutil resize -sectors min ~/Desktop/13.dmg

hdiutil convert ~/Desktop/13.dmg -format UDTO -o ~/Desktop/13.cdr

mv ~/Desktop/13.cdr ~/Desktop/13.iso

Adapted from https://osxdaily.com/2020/07/20/how-convert-macos-installer-iso/
 

SheerGold

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Unfortunately, that failed.

Here are the Terminal results:

Last login: Sat Jul 8 02:52:09 on ttys000
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil create ~/Desktop/13.dmg -size 20g -layout SPUD -fs HFS+J

hdiutil attach ~/Desktop/13.dmg -noverify -nobrowse -mountpoint /Volumes/InstallVentura

sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/InstallVentura

hdiutil detach /Volumes/Install\ macOS\ Ventura

hdiutil resize -sectors min ~/Desktop/13.dmg

hdiutil convert ~/Desktop/13.dmg -format UDTO -o ~/Desktop/13.cdr

mv ~/Desktop/13.cdr ~/Desktop/13.iso
created: /Users/p/Desktop/13.dmg
/dev/disk6 Apple_partition_scheme
/dev/disk6s1 Apple_partition_map
/dev/disk6s2 Apple_HFS /Volumes/InstallVentura
Password:
Ready to start.
To continue we need to erase the volume at /Volumes/InstallVentura.
If you wish to continue type (Y) then press return: Y
Erasing disk: 0%... 10%... 20%... 30%... 100%
Copying essential files...
Copying the macOS RecoveryOS...
Making disk bootable...
Copying to disk: 0%... 10%... 20%... 30%... 40%... 100%
Install media now available at "/Volumes/Install macOS Ventura 1"
"disk2" ejected.
hdiutil: resize: failed. Resource temporarily unavailable (35)
hdiutil: convert failed - Resource temporarily unavailable
mv: rename /Users/p/Desktop/13.cdr to /Users/p/Desktop/13.iso: No such file or directory
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ %
 

SheerGold

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Here are the Terminal results:

Last login: Sat Jul 8 02:52:09 on ttys000
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil create ~/Desktop/13.dmg -size 20g -layout SPUD -fs HFS+J

hdiutil attach ~/Desktop/13.dmg -noverify -nobrowse -mountpoint /Volumes/InstallVentura

sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/InstallVentura

hdiutil detach /Volumes/Install\ macOS\ Ventura

hdiutil resize -sectors min ~/Desktop/13.dmg

hdiutil convert ~/Desktop/13.dmg -format UDTO -o ~/Desktop/13.cdr

mv ~/Desktop/13.cdr ~/Desktop/13.iso
created: /Users/p/Desktop/13.dmg
/dev/disk6 Apple_partition_scheme
/dev/disk6s1 Apple_partition_map
/dev/disk6s2 Apple_HFS /Volumes/InstallVentura
Password:
Ready to start.
To continue we need to erase the volume at /Volumes/InstallVentura.
If you wish to continue type (Y) then press return: Y
Erasing disk: 0%... 10%... 20%... 30%... 100%
Copying essential files...
Copying the macOS RecoveryOS...
Making disk bootable...
Copying to disk: 0%... 10%... 20%... 30%... 40%... 100%
Install media now available at "/Volumes/Install macOS Ventura 1"
"disk2" ejected.
hdiutil: resize: failed. Resource temporarily unavailable (35)
hdiutil: convert failed - Resource temporarily unavailable
mv: rename /Users/p/Desktop/13.cdr to /Users/p/Desktop/13.iso: No such file or directory
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ %
 

bogdanw

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Run

Code:
hdiutil detach "/Volumes/Install macOS Ventura 1"

then continue with

Code:
hdiutil resize -sectors min ~/Desktop/13.dmg

Code:
hdiutil convert ~/Desktop/13.dmg -format UDTO -o ~/Desktop/13.cdr

Code:
mv ~/Desktop/13.cdr ~/Desktop/13.iso
 

SheerGold

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Run

Code:
hdiutil detach "/Volumes/Install macOS Ventura 1"

then continue with

Code:
hdiutil resize -sectors min ~/Desktop/13.dmg

Code:
hdiutil convert ~/Desktop/13.dmg -format UDTO -o ~/Desktop/13.cdr

Code:
mv ~/Desktop/13.cdr ~/Desktop/13.iso
Hi bogdanw,

Unfortunately, that failed.

Here are the Terminal results:

Last login: Sat Jul 8 12:00:25 on ttys000
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil detach "/Volumes/Install macOS Ventura 1"
"disk6" ejected.
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil convert ~/Desktop/13.dmg -format UDTO -o ~/Desktop/13.cdr
hdiutil: convert failed - No such file or directory
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % mv ~/Desktop/13.cdr ~/Desktop/13.iso
mv: rename /Users/p/Desktop/13.cdr to /Users/p/Desktop/13.iso: No such file or directory
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ %
 

bogdanw

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If you have 13.dmg, 13.cdr or 13.iso files on your desktop delete them (from Trash too), reboot and try from the start. Wait for each command to finish successfully before running another one.
 

SheerGold

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If you have 13.dmg, 13.cdr or 13.iso files on your desktop delete them (from Trash too), reboot and try from the start. Wait for each command to finish successfully before running another one.
Hi bogdanw,

I delete them & Trashed them, then rebooted

Unfortunately, that failed.

Here are the Terminal results:

Last login: Sat Jul 8 14:03:05 on ttys000
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil resize -sectors min ~/Desktop/13.dmg
hdiutil: resize: failed. No such file or directory (2)
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ %
 

bogdanw

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Run one by one each command
Code:
hdiutil create ~/Desktop/13.dmg -size 20g -layout SPUD -fs HFS+J

Code:
hdiutil attach ~/Desktop/13.dmg -noverify -nobrowse -mountpoint /Volumes/InstallVentura

Code:
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/InstallVentura

Code:
hdiutil detach /Volumes/Install\ macOS\ Ventura

Code:
hdiutil resize -sectors min ~/Desktop/13.dmg

Code:
hdiutil convert ~/Desktop/13.dmg -format UDTO -o ~/Desktop/13.cdr

Code:
mv ~/Desktop/13.cdr ~/Desktop/13.iso
 

SheerGold

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Run one by one each command
Code:
hdiutil create ~/Desktop/13.dmg -size 20g -layout SPUD -fs HFS+J

Code:
hdiutil attach ~/Desktop/13.dmg -noverify -nobrowse -mountpoint /Volumes/InstallVentura

Code:
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/InstallVentura

Code:
hdiutil detach /Volumes/Install\ macOS\ Ventura

Code:
hdiutil resize -sectors min ~/Desktop/13.dmg

Code:
hdiutil convert ~/Desktop/13.dmg -format UDTO -o ~/Desktop/13.cdr

Code:
mv ~/Desktop/13.cdr ~/Desktop/13.iso
Hi bogdanw,

Unfortunately, that failed.

Here are the Terminal results:

Last login: Sat Jul 8 14:19:44 on ttys000
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil create ~/Desktop/13.dmg -size 20g -layout SPUD -fs HFS+J
hdiutil: create failed - File exists
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil attach ~/Desktop/13.dmg -noverify -nobrowse -mountpoint /Volumes/InstallVentura
/dev/disk4 Apple_partition_scheme
/dev/disk4s1 Apple_partition_map
/dev/disk4s2 Apple_HFS /Volumes/InstallVentura
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/InstallVentura
Password:
hdiutil detach /Volumes/Install\ macOS\ Ventura
/Volumes/InstallVentura is not large enough for install media. An additional 13.19 GB is needed.
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil detach /Volumes/Install\ macOS\ Ventura
hdiutil: detach failed - No such file or directory
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil resize -sectors min ~/Desktop/13.dmg
hdiutil: resize: failed. Resource temporarily unavailable (35)
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil convert ~/Desktop/13.dmg -format UDTO -o ~/Desktop/13.cdr
hdiutil: convert failed - Resource temporarily unavailable
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % mv ~/Desktop/13.cdr ~/Desktop/13.iso.
mv: rename /Users/p/Desktop/13.cdr to /Users/p/Desktop/13.iso.: No such file or directory
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ %
 

bogdanw

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/Volumes/InstallVentura is not large enough for install media. An additional 13.19 GB is needed.
If one command fails, don't run the subsequent ones, it's pointless.
After a failed attempt, delete the 13.dmg file created by the first command on your Desktop.
Ensure that you have enough free space on the drive, you need at least 50GB.
 

SheerGold

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If one command fails, don't run the subsequent ones, it's pointless.
After a failed attempt, delete the 13.dmg file created by the first command on your Desktop.
Ensure that you have enough free space on the drive, you need at least 50GB.
Hi bogdanw,

Regarding the size requirement, there is 663 GB available.
 

SheerGold

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Run one by one each command
Code:
hdiutil create ~/Desktop/13.dmg -size 20g -layout SPUD -fs HFS+J

Code:
hdiutil attach ~/Desktop/13.dmg -noverify -nobrowse -mountpoint /Volumes/InstallVentura

Code:
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/InstallVentura

Code:
hdiutil detach /Volumes/Install\ macOS\ Ventura

Code:
hdiutil resize -sectors min ~/Desktop/13.dmg

Code:
hdiutil convert ~/Desktop/13.dmg -format UDTO -o ~/Desktop/13.cdr

Code:
mv ~/Desktop/13.cdr ~/Desktop/13.iso
Hi bogdanw,

I deleted 3.dmg & Trashed it, then rebooted

Unfortunately, that failed.

Here are the Terminal results:

Last login: Sat Jul 8 15:13:02 on ttys000
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil create ~/Desktop/13.dmg -size 20g -layout SPUD -fs HFS+J
created: /Users/p/Desktop/13.dmg
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/InstallVentura
Password:
/Volumes/InstallVentura is not a valid volume mount point.
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ %
 

leoborges

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You can try with gibMacOS

Using this script you can select desired macOS version and download it.

I use this script whenever I need an older macOS release
 

bogdanw

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Hi bogdanw,

I deleted 3.dmg & Trashed it, then rebooted

Unfortunately, that failed.

Here are the Terminal results:

Last login: Sat Jul 8 15:13:02 on ttys000
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % hdiutil create ~/Desktop/13.dmg -size 20g -layout SPUD -fs HFS+J
created: /Users/p/Desktop/13.dmg
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ % sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/InstallVentura
Password:
/Volumes/InstallVentura is not a valid volume mount point.
p@ps-MacBook-Pro ~ %
You have skipped the second command:
hdiutil attach ~/Desktop/13.dmg -noverify -nobrowse -mountpoint /Volumes/InstallVentura
 

Yebubbleman

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Are you trying to make a bootable USB? Or are you trying to make an ISO from a bootable macOS install drive to then present to a Windows guest OS as a mounted disk?

If the former:

...then you're over-complicating this by a ton. Just:

(a) download the lastest version of the "Install macOS Ventura" app either from the App Store/Software Update function, from Mr.Macintosh's Site (which links to Apple's CDN), or using the softwareupdate command with the fetchfullinstaller option (though, I find that the softwareupdate command can be hit and miss with this; Apple keeps doing things to break it on their end.

and then

(b) Run the createinstallmedia command from within the downloaded "Install macOS Ventura" app while targeting an empty GPT-schemed macOS Extended (Journaled) volume

If the latter:

...then use whatever virtualization program to present the USB drive to the guest operating system and, if your guest OS knows what to do with those file systems, they'll mount as though local. Making an ISO from the USB drive to then present to the guest OS is added work and will still get you the exact same result as presenting the USB drive to the guest.

Furthermore, I'm not sure what you mean by

I wanted to create a USB macOS installer, so that I could install macOS 13.4.1, onto a Windows VM using Parallels.

Why would you want to install macOS 13.4.1 on a pre-existing Windows VM? Even if you're trying to do nested virtualization (which I'm pretty sure isn't possible on a Mac), you're not going to have an easy time getting a Mac VM to run on a Windows hypervisor. If you're trying to create a Mac VM, then you should just create that VM from scratch on whatever hypervisor app you're using.

Also, worth pointing out that this is a night-and-day different process between Intel and Apple Silicon Macs.
 
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SheerGold

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You can try with gibMacOS

Using this script you can select desired macOS version and download it.

I use this script whenever I need an older macOS release
Hello leoborges,

RE: gibMacOS

I opened the package,
I tried all the Terminal items,
But none would install it.

It contains these items:
Scripts
__init__.py
disk.py
diskwin.py
downloader.py
plist.py
run.py
utils.py
BOOTICEx64.exe
LICENSE
Readme.md
gibMacOS.bat
MakeInstall.bat
BuildmacOSInstallApp.py
gibMacOS.py
MakeInstall.py
BuildmacOSInstallApp.command
gibMacOS.command

Please also see the attached screenshot.

If you know how to install it, please advise.

Thanks,

Kind regards.
 

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Nermal

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As Yebubbleman said above, you're really overcomplicating this. All you need to do is plug in your USB drive and then run:

sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Ventura.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/NameOfUSBDrive

That'll take care of everything else for you.
 
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