First of all, I am impressed by the knowledge of many MacRumors forum members here. So a big thank you for all the information shared by many of you already.
I'm excited for the switch to ARM - not because of predicted regular benchmark improvements, but mainly because of what the dedicated processor modules on Apple Silicon could achieve. If you look at the power of, for example, the Apple Afterburner, one can only imagine how certain pro-workflows could speed up massively (and some pro-workflows could be left in the dark by the 8,1 Mac Pro).
Now my dilemma I want to ask your help for, what to buy for current needs if you want to work on a Dual XDR-Display setup?
I currently own a Macbook Pro late 2016 2,9 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, 2TB, Radeon 460, with an XDR-Display (nano) and LG 5K Display.
My workflows:
- I built digital content and interactions for b2b companies
- For video content I shoot with 5.7k ProRes RAW (Panasonic EVA-1 with Shogun Inferno) and edit in Final Cut X (some projects still in Adobe Premiere).
- For 2D/2.5D animated content I work in Adobe After Effects (horribly slow).
- For digital ads and landing pages I use the terminal to develop locally with Netlify Dev, Hugo (based on GO), Microsoft Visual Studio Code, Google AMP, NPM Homebrew, etc.
Problems current setup:
- Can't view and edit 5.7K ProRes RAW natively (only on lower quality settings)
- XDR-Display can only display on a 5K resolution
- I need to be able to run server emulations in Terminal, so Intel x86 is currently the way to go (I guess?)
- I often encounter CPU throttling when coding (especially Chrome is terrible); causing me to wait a couple of minutes (losing valuable work time) or close applications.
Choice:
Option A: MacBook Pro 16" with the 5600M (should be able to run ProRes RAW on 5.7k natively), 64gb ram, 8c, 8tb, AND an extra XDR-Display (Nano + Pro Stand). With Apple business discount and VAT deduction: 10.807,18 EUR
Option B: Mac Pro 16c, W5700X, 8tb, 32gb ram (to be upgraded with aftermarket ram), Apple Afterburner no extra XDR-Display (buy later). With Apple business discount and VAT deduction: 10759,77 EUR
Performance increases (using Geekbench):
- Current 15" MBP 4c Radeon 460 late 2016: 845 (Single CPU), 3379 (Multi CPU), 15743 (GPU)
- MBP 16" 8c 5600M: 1119 (Single CPU, 132% increase), 6959 (Multi CPU, 206% increase), 40641 (GPU, 258% increase)
- Mac Pro 16c W5700X: 1127 (Single CPU, 133% increase), 14482 (Multi CPU, 429% increase), 75427 (GPU, 479% increase)
Dilemma: What would you do, buy the MBP 16" 5600M with an extra XDR-Display or buy the Mac Pro without an extra XDR-Display (buy later)?
Considerations:
- Will the MBP 16" 5600M still run ProRes RAW 5.7k natively with a dual XDR-Display setup?
- Has anyone got any experience with using the MBP 16" clamshell mode with two displays (eg. 2x 5K or 2x 6K?)?
- Has anyone on the new 5600M in the Macbook Pro 16" experienced thermal throttling?
- I see much activity in the thread of the Mac Pro regarding GPU problems with the W5700X card, especially in regard to After Effects.
- Big Navi is upon us, with the Mac Pro you could upgrade the GPU in the future (promising huge speed improvements, just like the 5500M vs 5600M difference)
I love the MBP form-factor as it lets you to be mobile, but dislike thermal throttling. I could solve the mobile use case by keeping my Macbook Pro 15" for those circumstances and use the Mac Pro at my desk. With the MBP 16" 5600M I have budget to acquire an extra XDR-Display. With the Mac Pro I would pospone the extra dual XDR-Display to a later date.
What would you do?
Looking forward to your thoughts.
I'm excited for the switch to ARM - not because of predicted regular benchmark improvements, but mainly because of what the dedicated processor modules on Apple Silicon could achieve. If you look at the power of, for example, the Apple Afterburner, one can only imagine how certain pro-workflows could speed up massively (and some pro-workflows could be left in the dark by the 8,1 Mac Pro).
Now my dilemma I want to ask your help for, what to buy for current needs if you want to work on a Dual XDR-Display setup?
I currently own a Macbook Pro late 2016 2,9 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, 2TB, Radeon 460, with an XDR-Display (nano) and LG 5K Display.
My workflows:
- I built digital content and interactions for b2b companies
- For video content I shoot with 5.7k ProRes RAW (Panasonic EVA-1 with Shogun Inferno) and edit in Final Cut X (some projects still in Adobe Premiere).
- For 2D/2.5D animated content I work in Adobe After Effects (horribly slow).
- For digital ads and landing pages I use the terminal to develop locally with Netlify Dev, Hugo (based on GO), Microsoft Visual Studio Code, Google AMP, NPM Homebrew, etc.
Problems current setup:
- Can't view and edit 5.7K ProRes RAW natively (only on lower quality settings)
- XDR-Display can only display on a 5K resolution
- I need to be able to run server emulations in Terminal, so Intel x86 is currently the way to go (I guess?)
- I often encounter CPU throttling when coding (especially Chrome is terrible); causing me to wait a couple of minutes (losing valuable work time) or close applications.
Choice:
Option A: MacBook Pro 16" with the 5600M (should be able to run ProRes RAW on 5.7k natively), 64gb ram, 8c, 8tb, AND an extra XDR-Display (Nano + Pro Stand). With Apple business discount and VAT deduction: 10.807,18 EUR
Option B: Mac Pro 16c, W5700X, 8tb, 32gb ram (to be upgraded with aftermarket ram), Apple Afterburner no extra XDR-Display (buy later). With Apple business discount and VAT deduction: 10759,77 EUR
Performance increases (using Geekbench):
- Current 15" MBP 4c Radeon 460 late 2016: 845 (Single CPU), 3379 (Multi CPU), 15743 (GPU)
- MBP 16" 8c 5600M: 1119 (Single CPU, 132% increase), 6959 (Multi CPU, 206% increase), 40641 (GPU, 258% increase)
- Mac Pro 16c W5700X: 1127 (Single CPU, 133% increase), 14482 (Multi CPU, 429% increase), 75427 (GPU, 479% increase)
Dilemma: What would you do, buy the MBP 16" 5600M with an extra XDR-Display or buy the Mac Pro without an extra XDR-Display (buy later)?
Considerations:
- Will the MBP 16" 5600M still run ProRes RAW 5.7k natively with a dual XDR-Display setup?
- Has anyone got any experience with using the MBP 16" clamshell mode with two displays (eg. 2x 5K or 2x 6K?)?
- Has anyone on the new 5600M in the Macbook Pro 16" experienced thermal throttling?
- I see much activity in the thread of the Mac Pro regarding GPU problems with the W5700X card, especially in regard to After Effects.
- Big Navi is upon us, with the Mac Pro you could upgrade the GPU in the future (promising huge speed improvements, just like the 5500M vs 5600M difference)
I love the MBP form-factor as it lets you to be mobile, but dislike thermal throttling. I could solve the mobile use case by keeping my Macbook Pro 15" for those circumstances and use the Mac Pro at my desk. With the MBP 16" 5600M I have budget to acquire an extra XDR-Display. With the Mac Pro I would pospone the extra dual XDR-Display to a later date.
What would you do?
Looking forward to your thoughts.