End of my wick with bootc@mp!

[sammiesneakz]

Hey guys..

I've installed bootcamp before so I dont know why its not working this time.

I freed up 70 GB's of space

I'm currently trying to place the partition with 45GB on Mac OS and 25GB for the windows XP.

I made sure I had no large files left on my Mac OS (I know that the partition can fail when you have large files left (800mb +)

I booted from the CD....repaired permissions and repaired the Disk (three times now)

made sure I had all the updates...and just installed mac firmware 1.3.

I've tried partitioning it atleast....14 times now..and it keeps failing.

The best I got was that it installed the partition right to about 90% of the install bar, then died on me (very frustrating). Now it wont work at all.

I really dont want to format the Drive, and I dont know how to do it anyway.

I know there are hundreds of posts on this, but I've done every single suggestion given in every one to no avail.

any thoughts?...thanks

Oh, btw, the error is the --can not move files-- one.


EDIT: The disk cannot be partitioned because some files cannot be moved.
Back up the disk and use Disk Utility to format it as a single Mac OS Extended (Journaled) volume. Restore your information to the disk and try using Boot Camp Assistant again.

 

[Gav Mack]

You need to run a OSX boot cd defrag tool to defrag your Mac partition - Techtool Pro, DiskWarrior and idefrag for example for boot camp to get past that problem.

 

[Rodus]

Or, are you running any anti virus? Mine kept failing until I killed Clam Xav, and make sure no other programs are running either.

 

[-tWv-]

You could make a time machine backup on an external and then erase/reformat the HD and then restore from the time machine backup. This is a last resort option if nothing else works. I had to do this for bootcamp to work for me. It tells you to do this if the partitioning fails in the bootcamp install guide, if you printed that out..

You should have a backup anyways before doing bootcamp just in case something goes wrong. There are so many people that have lost their entire Mac OS X partition while installing windows because they selected the wrong partition, or something happens to their disk. It is never a good idea to do anything to your disk without a backup.

 

[sammiesneakz]

Thanks Gav..

I have the full version of iDefrag.

Last night I wanted to defrag it..I selected "Full Defrag"

but it wouldnt allow me as it mentioned something like I needed to unmount the drive before I could do it?...I'm not sure how to do that.

The only option I could use was the "Quick(on-line)" version. That took about 6 hours to complete.

Is it the "Full Defrag" option I need to use?..If so...how do I go about doing it?

Thanks..

 

[MacDawg]

EDIT: The disk cannot be partitioned because some files cannot be moved.
Back up the disk and use Disk Utility to format it as a single Mac OS Extended (Journaled) volume. Restore your information to the disk and try using Boot Camp Assistant again.

Yes, looks like you hit on the solution to the problem
Hope it works out for you

Woof, Woof - Dawg

 

[Gav Mack]

Thanks Gav..

I have the full version of iDefrag.

Last night I wanted to defrag it..I selected "Full Defrag"

but it wouldnt allow me as it mentioned something like I needed to unmount the drive before I could do it?...I'm not sure how to do that.

The only option I could use was the "Quick(on-line)" version. That took about 6 hours to complete.

Is it the "Full Defrag" option I need to use?..If so...how do I go about doing it?

Thanks..

Boot time defrag programs are the only way to move that file cos it's optimising an unmounted disk.

If you own a copy of idefrag you need to go to the registered users part of their website and download their CDMaker tool to make a bootable CD.

http://www.coriolis-systems.com/iDefrag-faq.php

As already said - a Time Machine backup before booting off the CD and defragging is a must.

 

[sammiesneakz]

Right..ok..

an update.

I eventually got bootcamp to create the partition.

Thinking my problems were over...I was severly wrong.

Having just installed windows....it got to the very end of the installation, It just stalled, I just saw a blue screen and the arrow on the screen, unresponsive.

I had to force quit the lappie, though as it was rebooting, I found that windows had been installed, and was booting into it.

a.) the option button isnt responding to switch between OS's.
b.) the only way I could get back into windows from Mac OS was to go into preferences and select the laptop to reboot into windows.
c.)I tried running bootcamp drivers in windows, and an dll error popped up...not allowing me to install them.
d.) When setting up the Broadband, the area is greyed out when I need to set up the wireless option.
e.) Windows control panel has no bootcamp option in the startup option.

Whats going on?

Ive never experienced this, the only way I could get from windows to Mac was to restart booting from the Mac DVD and boot into Mac, as there was no option in windows control panel to revert it back to Mac.

Sorry being constantly troublesome, but persistance pays off.

any ideas?

 

[MacDawg]

Honestly, if it were me, this is what I would do:

1. I would back up my OS X completely
2. I would erase my drive and format it OS X Extended (Journaled) with Disk Utility
3. I would restore my OS X or do a clean install of OS X
4. I would print the Boot Camp Assistant instructions and follow them to the letter
5. I would make sure I was installing XP SP2 or higher, or Vista or Windows 7 RC
6. I would run Boot Camp Assistant to partition the drive and install
7. I would use the Leopard Disc/Restore Disc to install the drivers

In other words, at this point, I would punt and start over making sure I did every step along the way

Woof, Woof - Dawg

 

[Stridder44]

Just like Boot Camp said, your only choice is to back up any important files and reformat. After you install OS X (and after you update OS X), create a partition with Boot Camp so you know everything will be in working order.

 

[Winni]

Just like Boot Camp said, your only choice is to back up any important files and reformat. After you install OS X (and after you update OS X), create a partition with Boot Camp so you know everything will be in working order.

"It just works."
"Macs don't need defragmentation."

Actually, in real life, there is absolutely no difference between the amount of maintenance that a Windows PC and a Mac running OS X require.

 

[MacDawg]

"It just works."
"Macs don't need defragmentation."

Actually, in real life, there is absolutely no difference between the amount of maintenance that a Windows PC and a Mac running OS X require.

Sorry, but that is just not true

The defragmentation issue is addressed here: Disk Optimization
There is a distinct difference between fragmentation/defragmentation and contiguous free space
Your implication is misleading at best

And as far as the amount of required maintenance, your statement is simply not true


Woof, Woof - Dawg

 

[Stridder44]

"It just works."
"Macs don't need defragmentation."

Actually, in real life, there is absolutely no difference between the amount of maintenance that a Windows PC and a Mac running OS X require.

What dark hole did you slither out from? Where in my post did I mention anything about Macs "just work" or that they don't need fragmentation?

I'm not even going to get into the technical aspect of how wrong you are, but if you really want to know you can read MacDawg's post.

 

[-tWv-]

Honestly, if it were me, this is what I would do:

1. I would back up my OS X completely
2. I would erase my drive and format it OS X Extended (Journaled) with Disk Utility
3. I would restore my OS X or do a clean install of OS X
4. I would print the Boot Camp Assistant instructions and follow them to the letter
5. I would make sure I was installing XP SP2 or higher, or Vista or Windows 7 RC
6. I would run Boot Camp Assistant to partition the drive and install
7. I would use the Leopard Disc/Restore Disc to install the drivers

In other words, at this point, I would punt and start over making sure I did every step along the way

Woof, Woof - Dawg

This is what I would do if I were you, MacDawg is right and this would be the easiest solution. I have done this before and it works just fine if you have a TM backup of everything.