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F1 Fan

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I know that support for Catalina will likely end in late 2022. Will I receive warnings in the lead up to the big day? Or notification that it has happened? Thanks :)
 
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Hombre53

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No, I don't think Apple notifies you when it stops support for one of their previous OS, if they do, I'm not aware of it. When Mojave was left off the last previous update cycle, that was the red flag for Mojave.
 
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F1 Fan

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Apr 18, 2012
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No, I don't think Apple notifies you when it stops support for one of their previous OS, if they do, I'm not aware of it. When Mojave was left off the last previous update cycle, that was the red flag for Mojave.
Thanks. Seems like a potentially useful missing feature. Oh well. I plan on replacing the machine before that happens anyway.

Pretty gutted to have to replace the machine, to be honest. Mid 2012 15" rMBP still works very well (mostly). Shame that I can't take it beyond Catalina.
 

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Your 2012 rMBP does not stop working, just because Apple stops active support/updates for the system software.
The various internal tools that provide day-to-day security of various kinds (SIP, XProtect, MRT, Gatekeeper, etc) do not suddenly stop working, and continue to be updated regularly.
There's no pressing need to retire your older Macs, just because Apple no longer actively updates the system itself.
(You CAN take your old Mac to newer system versions, there's whole threads devoted to installing unsupported systems)
 
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F1 Fan

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Apr 18, 2012
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Your 2012 rMBP does not stop working, just because Apple stops active support/updates for the system software.
The various internal tools that provide day-to-day security of various kinds (SIP, XProtect, MRT, Gatekeeper, etc) do not suddenly stop working, and continue to be updated regularly.
There's no pressing need to retire your older Macs, just because Apple no longer actively updates the system itself.
(You CAN take your old Mac to newer system versions, there's whole threads devoted to installing unsupported systems)
I was under the impression that end of support for the OS meant ever-greater risk due to a lack of security patches. I must admit that I don't know about SIP, XProtect, MRT or Gatekeeper. I'll take a look. Thanks.
 

Hombre53

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I was under the impression that end of support for the OS meant ever-greater risk due to a lack of security patches. I must admit that I don't know about SIP, XProtect, MRT or Gatekeeper. I'll take a look. Thanks.
The greatest risk is using an unsupported browser, such as Safari that was native to High Sierra, Mojave, etc. Always use a browser that is current and has security updates. The internet is a jungle. Running an unsupported OS has it's risks also, but not IMHO, as problematic as surfing the internet on an old, unsupported browser that is outdated, without recent security updates. Brave or Edge would be my choices if running High Sierra or Mojave.
 
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