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End of the Summer updates

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According to the HardMac site, Apple won't be releasing a new Mac Pro and iMac until "end of summer"

What is the general consensus, what is the end of the summer ????
 
On the plus side September does make a Sandy Bridge processor being included more likely, especially if Intel are indeed ahead of schedule as the rumours state.

It's only eight weeks away. Of course it depends on the machine you're planning to upgrade from as to whether that's worth the wait. To me with my 2.0GHz C2D iMac I can hold out until then.
 
Queso said:
On the plus side September does make a Sandy Bridge processor being included more likely, especially if Intel are indeed ahead of schedule as the rumours state.
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It's not just a rumor, Intel CEO said that ;)

http://www.pcworld.com/article/201041/intel_to_ramp_up_sandy_bridge_faster_than_expected.html

Anyway, September might be too early as we are talking about Q4 release of Sandy Bridge but any specific dates or other times have not been confirmed by Intel, so September ain't impossible. It would need a lot work from Intel so they can provide good availability of the chips when they are launched. Nobody likes it to be announced and then wait months to get it.

Hopefully we'll see SB and I'm sure most people wouldn't mind waiting a month or two longer to get Sandy Bridge instead of soon-to-be-old Nehalem.
 
Hellhammer said:
It's not just a rumor, Intel CEO said that ;)

http://www.pcworld.com/article/201041/intel_to_ramp_up_sandy_bridge_faster_than_expected.html

Anyway, September might be too early as we are talking about Q4 release of Sandy Bridge but any specific dates or other times have not been confirmed by Intel. Hopefully we'll see SB and I'm sure most people wouldn't mind waiting a month or two longer to get Sandy Bridge instead of soon-to-be-old Nehalem.
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Hellhammer, your right. I certainly won't mind waiting another month or two if I can see SB.
 
ravinder08 said:
I'm waiting for the refresh, but will SB really be a big improvement?

Rav:)
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Yes. For a start the lower power consumption (and therefore heat dissipation) allows higher clock speeds to be installed into the iMac chassis. On top of this SB will be quad-core across the board and will feature much improved floating-point performance for maths-intensive tasks such as video encoding etc.
 
Queso said:
On top of this SB will be quad-core across the board.
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There will be dual core versions of Sandy Bridge. TDPs and clocks are unknown so it's hard to say whether all iMacs will get quad core but I'm pretty sure at least low-end will remain dual core. However, the architecture upgrade itself is proving some upgrade in performance. For example, Nehalem provided up to 30% better clock for clock, core for core performance so dual core Sandy ain't a bad CPU, it's more than fine for most people
 
Hellhammer said:
It's not just a rumor, Intel CEO said that ;)
Hopefully we'll see SB and I'm sure most people wouldn't mind waiting a month or two longer to get Sandy Bridge instead of soon-to-be-old Nehalem.
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From all the info I've seen - I can't see anything that would go in a MacPro from Sandybridge that would be ready even if they waited another couple of months - or did I miss something HH ;)

Also - we now have reached 500 day since an update
so this may be just a bit of viral marketing to throw peoples gaze off the current you-no-what problem

Lastly - not a mention of the CPUs or GPUs - the most important bit of info re these boxes

All in all, pretty much pointless
 
We shouldn't forget also about the announced USB 3.0 and a faster Firewire.

Tom B.
 
Deepshade said:
From all the info I've seen - I can't see anything that would go in a MacPro from Sandybridge that would be ready even if they waited another couple of months - or did I miss something HH ;)

Also - we now have reached 500 day since an update
so this may be just a bit of viral marketing to throw peoples gaze off the current you-no-what problem

Lastly - not a mention of the CPUs or GPUs - the most important bit of info re these boxes

All in all, pretty much pointless
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Sandy Bridge Xeons are not due before H2 2011 so the Mac Pro update would likely include Westmere (6-core) rather than Sandy Bridge. Also, the rumors about ATI 5870 and GTX 480 which were found in OS X are showing more or less imminent release of Mac Pro.

Remember that this is iMac forum not Mac Pro ;)
 
Hellhammer said:
Sandy Bridge Xeons are not due before H2 2011 so the Mac Pro update would likely include Westmere (6-core) rather than Sandy Bridge. Also, the rumors about ATI 5870 and GTX 480 which were found in OS X are showing more or less imminent release of Mac Pro.

Remember that this is iMac forum not Mac Pro ;)
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Sorry about that guys - lost where I was posting
 
I'm actually waiting for Microsoft to release Windows 8, then for Apple to release Windows 8-compatible Boot Camp drivers, then for the iMac refresh after those two things, before I buy. :):eek::apple:

That said, I'm as excited about Sandy Bridge as everyone else here, it's looking really interesting - and worth the wait for those of you still waiting for an iMac refresh.
 
So september seems to be the likely month?
Not August? I can wait for September but please not October!
 
October would be sooo far away. And me stuck at this.. *shrugs* PC.

But if it's the end of october, it would go great with my birthday the 24th. Something great to look forward to on this looooong wait.
 
bigmacman said:
Both of which will be replaced by Light Peak next year... :p
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I wish that was true. Production of LP will start late this year but in the beginning, it'll be meant for professionals, possibly via PCIe. Sandy Bridge chipsets will not support it. Ivy Bridge is too far away so there isn't any news about it but I can see it being integrated into high-end chipset by then. In 2013, we may see it in mainstream chipsets.

Another issue is that it's made by Intel, not by multiple companies like USB is. Intel is known of its dictator so they can make the mistake and make it too expensive so other companies won't adopt it, meaning that USB will continue its domination. That's the mistake Apple made with FireWire, too high costs to adopt it.

It will take years before it can fight against USB in popularity. Why? Because not everyone buys a new computer every year. All computers will have USB anyway, only few will have LP so industry will likely stick with USB until all computers have LP and it's cheap enough. Also, there isn't that many people who even need LP as USB 3.0 which is more reality today than LP is can already deliver nearly 5Gbit/s, more than SATA 3Gbit/s can which is the standard nowadays. Hard drives won't go over 200MB/s unless you RAID them and RAID is more or less for pros and geeks, not for average Joe. SSDs can already saturate the SATA II, actually fastest PCIe SSDs are faster than 10Gbit/s LightPeak. However, SSDs won't be mainstream, yet. Possibly in couple of years but by then, LP is already available.

I would say, LP isn't going to beat USB before 2015. That's very much up to Intel as well. If they are too greedy, they are ruining their chances. LP has unlimited amount of potential. It can replace all other interfaces, so hopefully, Intel will be wise and price it reasonably, also licensing wise.

Just my guesses, nothing official.
 
The most likely scenario is, that LP will just add yet another connector to the computer (optical this time), leaving all the other intact.

Tom B.
 
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