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End the Whine - May 20th, 2006 [MBP Owners Must Read]

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EricChunky

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Hey, guess i just found a more cost-effective way than to sue apple...

so... all the macbook pro users, current or the future ones, please read the following carefully:

End the Whine - May 20th, 2006
Written by Mashugly
Monday, 01 May 2006

It doesn’t take very long in the Apple support forum (and elsewhere) to discover the main issues on the minds of MacBook Pro owners – the majority have issues with whining and heat. Apple seems to be taking these annoyances very lightly, and as such, something needs to be done.
Many of you have been promised by Apple tech people that your problem would be fixed in the next generation… and it wasn’t. Many people have been told that the "sound is normal" - for the price you paid for the unit, it isn't.

Some have heard from the Geniuses that their uncomfortable heat is “within spec” while others have had to void their warranty to fix the problem. All of this has got to stop. We need to let Apple know we're tired of them not paying attention to our complaints. So here's what I suggest we do.

On May 20th, everyone with a MacBook Pro that has whining and heat issues should call Apple Support and tell them about it. If thousands of affected MBP owners call on the same day on the same topic, Apple will be forced to address the issue (not to mention the press such an effort will get!). There is safety - and problem solving - in numbers. A unified group of concerned MBP owners will get the attention of those in charge.

This is the best way we can hold Apple accountable. It's our duty to make sure they know we won't tolerate hacks and unsupported fixes to fix an issue that shouldn't be there. This is nothing malicious and we do it with the most admirable of reasons – telling Apple we love their characteristically high quality and won't settle for less. Since we pay for the ability to call technical support when have an issue, we should use it.

If no one spoke up, nothing would change. It's our responsibility.
So help us spread the word – post on your favorite Mac forums and let the world’s MacBook Pro owners know their solution is at hand.

So, mark Saturday May 20th on your calendar - it's the day the whining ends!

To join them:

http://www.osx86project.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=180&Itemid=2

hey, since noone has owned a mbp over 3 months, the tech support is still free, why not spare your precious 5 minutes to help each other out :D
 
How would this get press? i mean is not like Apple will be like

People don't like our MBP quick CNN make a story about that, and i'm not to sure Apple will like the idea and repsond to it, when it is coming from people who hack Mac OS X to run on PCs
 
The only thing that this will do is slam their call centres and noone will be able to get through ...

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Sounds pretty dumb to me, it'll probably result in an effective denial of service on Apple customer service and leave many customers with resolvable issues severely peeved off.

Anyone who thinks Apple isn't fully aware of the MBP issues already is just crazy.
 
I refuse to join this for the following reasons:

1). The obvious: I do not own a MacBook Pro...

2). I have sat down and used a MacBook Pro for a while, and I can tell you that my 12" PB is much hotter on the legs then the MBP. The heat is NORMAL people, have you not heard that Aluminium is a conductor of heat and will cause you to feel heat on your legs.

3). The whine is the only thing that is sort of not normal, but honestly people what do you expect from a new product (both Apple's and Intel's new processor), you took the risk of buying a rev A product despide the many threads I have read where people have said that you should wait for rev B.

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But I do have to say; at least they aren't trying to get people rallied up for a class action suit, and the MagSafes catching fire is another issue and Apple is reportedly dealing with those cases accordingly. My personal theory about all the heat complaints are from switchers who have just come from a crap DELL laptop (those things run so cool, mostly because the fan is on all the time) and aren't used to a warm laptop.

*puts on flame suit*
 
Benjamindaines said:
I refuse to join this for the following reasons:

1). The obvious: I do not own a MacBook Pro...

2). I have sat down and used a MacBook Pro for a while, and I can tell you that my 12" PB is much hotter on the legs then the MBP. The heat is NORMAL people, have you not heard that Aluminium is a conductor of heat and will cause you to feel heat on your legs.

3). The whine is the only thing that is sort of not normal, but honestly people what do you expect from a new product (both Apple's and Intel's new processor), you took the risk of buying a rev A product despide the many threads I have read where people have said that you should wait for rev B.

___________

But I do have to say; at least they aren't trying to get people rallied up for a class action suit, and the MagSafes catching fire is another issue and Apple is reportedly dealing with those cases accordingly. My personal theory about all the heat complaints are from switchers who have just come from a crap DELL laptop (those things run so cool, mostly because the fan is on all the time) and aren't used to a warm laptop.

*puts on flame suit*
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My girlfriend uses the 2.16Ghz SONY SZ with GeforceGo 7400, much much much much much cooler than macbook pro... that's a real laptop that u can describe it with the term warm... it use carbon vibre case, however.

and as far as i know, some macbook pros, depends on speed and other config (plus most importantly , luck), are way cooler than the rest, so... don't try to draw a quick conclusion here.

there'r loads of people outthere complaining, many of them are long-term / loyal mac users and use g4 laptops be4 (including me). that means some macbook pros, probably quite a lot , DO have problems that deserved more concerns from Apple. if i was a dumbass (which might be quite obvious to someone), there cant be so many dumbarsses that happened to bought the infamous macbook pro.... rite?

btw... Apple of course knows this, but they arnt going to do anything ... here's a random quote from one of massive compalins filed on Apple Support
Just got off the phone with Apple and was basically told to go f#$k myself. I told them about the whine and the problems I was having and they told me that it is not defective and if i returned it I would be subject too a 10% restocking fee. I tried to explain to them how lots of people on the forums are having the same problems as I am and there response was "we don't pay attention to the forums." Nice to see that Apple is paying attention to there customers. Idiots! This thing is going back on Wednesday. Good thing I payed with a credit card!!
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now is there anyone still NOT think this action is necessary?
 
calebjohnston said:
... What? Wrong thread?
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he was saying the Mirror Widget.

The trick is actually openning a little app that keep your cpu constantly running and therefore kills the noise. however, doing so will not only shorten your battery life but might also fire your macbook pro.
 
Benjamindaines said:
2). I have sat down and used a MacBook Pro for a while, and I can tell you that my 12" PB is much hotter on the legs then the MBP. The heat is NORMAL people, have you not heard that Aluminium is a conductor of heat and will cause you to feel heat on your legs.
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How about this, perhaps Apple did a major design hoohar here?

"Oh noes! Apple made a lousy design decision! *brain implodes*"

I seriously don't see what the great deal is about Aluminium, it warps easy as hell, dings when you so much as look at it, toasts various meat balls, and even on desktops it's heat dissipation advantages are proven to be at best minimum.

And even if Alumiunium is such a great conductor of heat, perhaps our good customer friendly Apple should realise that it is bloody rude to spread heat onto YOUR CUSTOMER instead of into the environment through this non innovative technology known as "heat vents"?

Geez. Innovation indeed. What amuses me is you guys actually put up with Apple's lies just to justify your dumb buying decision.
 
EricChunky said:
he was saying the Mirror Widget.

The trick is actually openning a little app that keep your cpu constantly running and therefore kills the noise. however, doing so will not only shorten your battery life but might also fire your macbook pro.
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If it does fry your system because it is kept running continuously then it is a design flaw. Period.
 
generik said:
If it does fry your system because it is kept running continuously then it is a design flaw. Period.
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by saying "FIRE" i mean goes very very hot .. sorry for the bad english

this issue (mirro widget kills whine) has been reported many times on Apple Support forms and the conclusion is not mine.

as far as i know, all core duo cpu drop its speed to 1Ghz (997-998Mhz to be accurate) immediately when idle to save power and reduce heat, disregarding the advertised CPU speed and the power profile that you use. If you monitor the cpu using 3rd party apps you will see the jumping frequency. by running a little app outthere will stop such jumpy thing happening, it might not damage your hardware, but will defintely increase the temp level at large.
 
The whine must be a problem with how OS X is using the hardware. I realize there must be 2308734098654 threads discussing this, but when running XP through bootcamp, I get no whine. the heat...ehh, I can live with it. It is a laptop, not an icepack.

If you guys can get the whine fixed, more power to you, but I feel there are more pressing social issues to mobilize for. (I.E. I just came back from a 30,000 strong pro-immigration rally. Don't want to turn this political, just making a point) I can live with the whine, but I can't live with injustice. If you really feel that it is your duty to speak up, check your local indymedia, I'm sure there are plenty of ways for you to get involved in your community that will make a difference not just to your computer, but to the world at large.
 
I think it's a problem, but if apple says its in the normal range, how are you going to fight it? I wouldn't be surprised if the whine/buzzing/heat didn't go away until August when they're supposedly being updated.
 
I think it sucks that MBPs have these 2 issues, but you took the risk when buying a rev A product. Heck, there were people here who even admitted that it was risky, but didn't mind because Apple would eventually offer a fix for the issue, and so it was really "no risk" for you in the long run. Well "eventually" hasn't arrived yet, that's all.

I'm waiting for rev B of the MacBooks because I don't want to take the risk now and tell myself it's OK, only to "whine" about it later. Get it? Whine? WHINE.........just like your MBPs, sucka!
 
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