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Entourage vs. Mail
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Yep, mail dosen't have occasional and seemingly irretrievable data loss.proverbs said:
Not having any option of a unified interface in the mail/ical/addressbook has irked me for some time but little apps like calendarclock fill the hole pretty well.
I would choose .Mail over Entourage. IMO, the major drawbacks of the latter are the lack of Address Book and iCal integration.
aa... hit the nail on the head though. Entourage has a nasty habit of losing data. I thought it might have been fixed with the upgrade to 2004 but I've heard reports of it still happening.
Mail has a cleaner interface too IMO. Plus, I find it doesn't use up as many resources which makes sense since Entourage is kind of like Mail, iCal and Address Book, all rolled into one and all running at the same time, irrespective of whether you need them.
The only reason you should use Entourage is if you have to sync with Microsoft Exchange servers AFAIK. I think it's feasible with Mail but not easy or full featured. I'm not fully sure though, I could be wrong.
Mail has a cleaner interface too IMO. Plus, I find it doesn't use up as many resources which makes sense since Entourage is kind of like Mail, iCal and Address Book, all rolled into one and all running at the same time, irrespective of whether you need them.
The only reason you should use Entourage is if you have to sync with Microsoft Exchange servers AFAIK. I think it's feasible with Mail but not easy or full featured. I'm not fully sure though, I could be wrong.
I've mostly used Entourage in the past, but I switch back to Mail briefly with every system upgrade, just to see if it's "ready for me" yet. I just went up to Tiger, and for the first time Mail looks like it might be where I want it to be.
So far, the only advantages Entourage still has over Mail, at least that I've found in one night of using the latest Mail, is the integrated address book, calendar, tasks, and news. Apple's Address Book and Calendar still annoy me, but on the Entourage side, it's annoying not to have everything sync automatically the way they do with Address Book. And I use LifeBalance for tasks these days anyway, and I can't remember the last time I read news, so ...
Of course, three days from now, I may have found a dozen other tweaky little things that will drive me back to Entourage...
So far, the only advantages Entourage still has over Mail, at least that I've found in one night of using the latest Mail, is the integrated address book, calendar, tasks, and news. Apple's Address Book and Calendar still annoy me, but on the Entourage side, it's annoying not to have everything sync automatically the way they do with Address Book. And I use LifeBalance for tasks these days anyway, and I can't remember the last time I read news, so ...
Of course, three days from now, I may have found a dozen other tweaky little things that will drive me back to Entourage...
Integration is good. I've been using Entourage since I switched in August 2004. I like it fine. Syncs well with my Clie. Of course, I haven't used Apple's software so I can't really judge. I just like what I'm using in Entourage.
I've been using Entourage for hundreds of mail messages a day for several years, and the recent corruption I posted about elsewhere was the first time I've ever had a problem with data loss. And that was in response to a power outage. You're quite right about the cleaner interface, though.mad jew said:
But not, I'd bet, with your iPod or other third-party apps.iSaint said:
As for "cool" features... Entourage does have a semi-hidden Japanese address card format, with different fields and a built-in tracker for sending and receiving holiday cards. Never did figure out why that last was included in the Japanese format but not the default format. Of course, I never got around to actually using it after the first time I discovered it.
And I was right about there being tweaky flaws I'd discover with Mail in time. In fact, I discovered this last night and mentioned it in my previous post, thought I'd discovered the solution so erased it, then discovered this morning that my "solution" was a red herring.
I have one email account, which receives mail from several addresses -- one alias to the main account, and several addresses that are forwarded from other online services. However, there doesn't seem to be a way in Mail to change the address in the From header when I'm sending mail. I can change the Reply-to, but that won't help if the recipients never read my message because they (or their spam filters) didn't recognize the From header and sent the message straight to the trash. Is there any way to work around this in Mail? I really am liking the latest interface much much better (drawers=evil, panes=good).
Bedawyn said:And I was right about there being tweaky flaws I'd discover with Mail in time. In fact, I discovered this last night and mentioned it in my previous post, thought I'd discovered the solution so erased it, then discovered this morning that my "solution" was a red herring.
I think you can just add additional comma separated email addresses to the Email Address field on the Accounts preference pane, and then you'll have a drop down to select which from address to use when composing.
Jx
Bedawyn said:
True dat...I've wondered about syncing with my iPod. But you don't have any editing features in your contacts on your iPod, do you?
Bedawyn said:
Well, being a Microsoft program, it is inherently inconsistent. Some people lose there data often and some don't lose it at all.
Thanks so much! That seems to be working fine. I can't actually test it yet -- no outgoing email until I get my own wireless set up in a couple of weeks -- but it looks like exactly what I needed.jMc said:
No, but I'd like to have the extra backup of being able to read them from my iPod, especially since I sync it a lot more often than my Palm. I figure you can't have too many backups.iSaint said:
That I'll buy.madjew said:
And I will be glad to move one more step away from Microsoft.
I used Entourage for 2 years and once I upgraded to Tiger, I gave Mail a try and I still use it to this day.
Actually it does, it just calls them Custom Views instead. They're pretty much the same thing. And I haven't figured out yet what the Spotlight is good for that the regular searching in Entourage can't do as well. Not that I'm trying to defend Microsoft, mind. ;-) I just figure that for something like mail, there is no such thing as a "best" application, only ones that do or do not have the features a particular user will need. If you don't use a feature, then having it won't help. And I can't imagine what anyone would use Spotlight for other than simple searching that can be done without it.jinzo012 said:
I haven't used Mail 2, but I found Entourage to be better than Mail 1 simply because the mail server here is finicky, and occasionally my mail program can't connect to the server. When Mail can't connect, it gives up until you tell it otherwise. If Entourage fails to connect, it still tries again according to its schedule. It's a lame reason, but it was enough for me to switch.
Of course, now I'm using Thunderbird instead of either, so
Of course, now I'm using Thunderbird instead of either, so