iPad Even the Nintendo Switch has OLED now and this is sad that the iPad Air/mini does not have it

[Kung gu]

The Switch now comes with OLED and now with the the iPad Air 2022 will not come with OLED.

The Switch costs $350 and can afford to have an OLED panel and a good one at that.
The iPad Air costs $599 and does not. It has a LCD panel and comes with 64GB storage.

Even the switch comes with 64GB.

This is disappointing, apple is just ripping us off.

 

[JCCL]

A 720p OLED screen. Yeah. I’ll keep the one in the iPad. Thanks!

Nothing is a biggest ripoff Than the Switch by the way. It’s internal we’re already outdated in 2017. It’s outrageous that they just put an oled screen and continued selling it

 

[Kung gu]

nothing is a biggest ripoff Thant the Switch by the way.

Offering 64GB in the iPad Air for $599 is a blatant rip off.

 

[Abazigal]

A 720p OLED screen. Yeah. I’ll keep the one in the iPad. Thanks!

nothing is a biggest ripoff Thant the Switch by the way. It’s internal we’re already outdated in 2017. It’s outrageous that they just put an oled screen and continued selling it

The switch would really benefit from a processor refresh (imagine if it could run an M1 or A15 chip). I imagine that’s Nintendo’s biggest constraint. They have all this amazing IP, but the challenge is making the hardware compelling enough. A number of older console games don’t even run smoothly on it. Installing D2 remastered was a pain as well, with the process stalling a number of times for me.

 

[ruslan120]

Given how much people have complained about the iPad mini jelly scrolling, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re delaying it because OLED has a weird scrolling thing too

 

[el-John-o]

OLED has a lot of incredible advantages, but also some disadvantages. Among it's chief disadvantages is cost.

The Nintendo Switch with OLED is shipping with chips that are now several years old and much cheaper to produce; and it's shipping at a price $50 higher than its original launch price. Ever priced OLED monitors and TV's?

We have OLED displays on Apple products. Apple still has to hit price targets. Are we also upset that Apple doesn't make the case out of solid gold like the first gen Apple Watch Editions?

The Air and Mini are trying to hit certain price targets. Given the performance they have under the hood and the feature set; it's clear where Apple spent the engineering and component budgets. Similarly, look at the "OG" iPad. The market there is primarily education. It needs to be as cheap as possible, and it needs to remain compatible with accessories for as long as possible. Schools have invested big money into infrastructure (charging, cases, storage, provisioning, etc.) for their iPad equipped classrooms so Apple is going to change as little as possible on that original iPad, giving it minor refreshes and keeping the prices super low.

The mini is still not a flagship iPad model, even at it's current state. It still needs to hit a certain price point.

 

[JCCL]

Offering 64GB in the iPad Air for $599 is a blatant rip off.

Fully agree there.

 

[ericwn]

Totally different values and very different use cases for me. My Switch hasn’t been used in months, my iPads are used every day for hours.

 

[trip1ex]

Looks like you spent all of 10 seconds thinking that through OP.

 

[JPack]

Apple margins are far higher than Nintendo. Somebody pays for those beautiful Apple stores and outstanding customer service.

Yes, Apple could easily include an OLED panel, like Lenovo and Samsung do on their 11” tablets for $499. But it isn’t profitable enough for Apple to do so.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Totally different values and very different use cases for me. My Switch hasn’t been used in months, my iPads are used every day for hours.

To play games or for other things.

 

[ericwn]

To play games or for other things.

Games, not so much these days. During the day the iPad is a digital notebook and journal, in the evening (when the kids are sleeping) it may be used for the occasional game.

I used to play racing games during the day but just don’t have the time or the headspace for that right now.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

A 720p OLED screen. Yeah. I’ll keep the one in the iPad. Thanks!

Nothing is a biggest ripoff Than the Switch by the way. It’s internal we’re already outdated in 2017. It’s outrageous that they just put an oled screen and continued selling it

It is and it's how Nintendo has been doing business for the last 20 yrs. The Gamecube was basically an overclocked N64. The Nintendo Wii was just a faster version of the Gamecube. The Wii U was an overclocked Wii. The Switch is basically a rebranded version of the Nvidia Shield Tablet with the K1 CPU. Nintendo doesn't run it's business model like Microsoft or Sony. They rarely if ever lower the price of their consoles with the rare exception of the Nintendo 3DS because of lackluster sales, in part because they were charging too much vs what Sony was selling the PS3 Slim at the time.

That's how Nintendo rolls and i'm an unabashed Nintendo fanboy. But yeah they take the cake for putting profits over value to the consumer. The Switch as was mentioned in another comment runs pretty poor and a lot of their new games look the part because the Company refuses to release an updated console with better hardware specs. In fact Nintendo has said that the Switch is still a mid-cycle product for them.

So yeah, Apple is nowhere as bad as Nintendo.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Games, not so much these days. During the day the iPad is a digital notebook and journal, in the evening (when the kids are sleeping) it may be used for the occasional game.

I used to play racing games during the day but just don’t have the time or the headspace for that right now.

I think if you can only have one device (finances) the iPad should be the obvious choice for most people as it’s more versatile. Yes the gaming experience might be better overall on the switch but you can still play a lot of games on the iPad and do so many other things. I currently have a few iPads but I’m thinking of picking up a switch OLED just for fun.

 

[majkom]

Thank god there is no ****ing flickery oled in another apple line… it is enough that new iphones are unusable to all of us sensitive to pwm flicker.

 

[ericwn]

I think if you can only have one device (finances) the iPad should be the obvious choice for most people as it’s more versatile. Yes the gaming experience might be better overall on the switch but you can still play a lot of games on the iPad and do so many other things. I currently have a few iPads but I’m thinking of picking up a switch OLED just for fun.

I agree, the iPad is a much more versatile tool. If you’re a gamer and like Nintendo’s exclusive products, the Switch is the way to go, but it really is only designed for that use case.

 

[Devyn89]

The switch would really benefit from a processor refresh (imagine if it could run an M1 or A15 chip). I imagine that’s Nintendo’s biggest constraint. They have all this amazing IP, but the challenge is making the hardware compelling enough. A number of older console games don’t even run smoothly on it. Installing D2 remastered was a pain as well, with the process stalling a number of times for me.

I think for Nintendo it’s an entirely different calculus. The hardware just needs to be good enough to run their games. Their games sell their systems not the other way around.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think for Nintendo it’s an entirely different calculus. The hardware just needs to be good enough to run their games. Their games sell their systems not the other way around.

Didn’t think their First party games like Mario, Zelda and animal crossing are resource hungry. They don’t need beefy processors.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

Didn’t think their First party games like Mario, Zelda and animal crossing are resource hungry. They don’t need beefy processors.

They can be resource heavy. The Wii U ports seem to do better than the newer games introduced for the Switch. Metroid Dread is a great game but it’s not the best looking game on the Switch. Some of the more recent games have not been hitting 60fps which is what Nintendo likes to strive for.

The Switch clearly needs a spec bump. It’s possible that Nintendo is looking at its successor but then again they have said the Switch is in its mid-cycle which means 2027. They obviously are milking its success. I think the Switch has exceeded sales of the original Wii.

 

[el-John-o]

It is and it's how Nintendo has been doing business for the last 20 yrs. The Gamecube was basically an overclocked N64. The Nintendo Wii was just a faster version of the Gamecube. The Wii U was an overclocked Wii. The Switch is basically a rebranded version of the Nvidia Shield Tablet with the K1 CPU. Nintendo doesn't run it's business model like Microsoft or Sony. They rarely if ever lower the price of their consoles with the rare exception of the Nintendo 3DS because of lackluster sales, in part because they were charging too much vs what Sony was selling the PS3 Slim at the time.

That's how Nintendo rolls and i'm an unabashed Nintendo fanboy. But yeah they take the cake for putting profits over value to the consumer. The Switch as was mentioned in another comment runs pretty poor and a lot of their new games look the part because the Company refuses to release an updated console with better hardware specs. In fact Nintendo has said that the Switch is still a mid-cycle product for them.

So yeah, Apple is nowhere as bad as Nintendo.

There's really no point in which Nintendo was more technologically advanced than other consoles.

PERHAPS the NES; but not since then. Every generation, the competitions consoles have been more powerful with more advanced features. Whereas Nintendo's offering has usually been cheaper, more accessible, easier to use, and with a bunch of family-friendly casual first-party games.

Nintendo isn't wrong here. The largest videogame console by volume is the iPhone. While it may not be flashy or cool; the 'casual game' market is by far the biggest segment of the market. Nintendo capitalizes on that and always have.

The one true exception to this is the N64 which was more powerful than the PlayStation, but once again Nintendo chose convenience and accessibility over all else and chose to keep it cartridge based. (Plus a healthy dose of "We make the cartridges"). Meaning instead of a 650MB disc to put the games on and have CD quality audio, you had to cram it into a 4 to 64MB cartridge (with 32MB/64MB ones only coming at the end of its lifecycle and being expensive and rare). The GameCube was everything the N64 should've been except that it frustratingly didn't have a DVD player (which was a key selling point for the PS2; because most homes didn't yet have a DVD player and a PS2 wasn't much more expensive than an off-the-shelf DVD player. Similar to the PS3 which, at launch, was one of the cheapest Blu Ray players you could buy which made it a compelling deal. Albeit for a very short while before players dropped in price.)

But for ALL of the shortcomings for all of those consoles; they're usually remembered more fondly than anything else because the games were so good. I'm not sure I can think of any console generation; save maybe, MAYBE for the Wii U, where if I was forced to choose I wouldn't choose the Nintendo offering just because of the sheer quality of the games.