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jw12345678

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With the new 'Face Time' for iphone 4 being such a big feature doesn't it make the lack of camera on the current iPad look even more of a mistake? How long do people think it will be before the iPad is updated to include a front facing camera?
 
Expect iPad 2 at least 12 months time.

FaceTime is a nice idea in principal. When you consider the limitations of wifi only, iPhone 4 only etc.. It's a fantastic feature that the majority will never put to any practical use.
 
I'm not sure I agree. I, like millions of others, use video calling through Skype to keep in touch with family, kids etc when away from home. Surely Face Time, or for that matter Skype, on an ipad would be even more practical than using a laptop?
 
I'm not sure I agree. I, like millions of others, use video calling through Skype to keep in touch with family, kids etc when away from home. Surely Face Time, or for that matter Skype, on an ipad would be even more practical than using a laptop?

Your assuming Apple will allow Skype to use it.

3g unrestictor would work... :)

Atleast, Im assuming.

Your assuming the ios4 is going to be cracked soon enough to allow 3G unrestricted to be installed ?


;)
 
Expect iPad 2 at least 12 months time.

FaceTime is a nice idea in principal. When you consider the limitations of wifi only, iPhone 4 only etc.. It's a fantastic feature that the majority will never put to any practical use.

Not sure about that for three reasons:

1) El Jobs clearly said on stage they're working with the carriers to get it on 3G. I assume there's a lot of talks going on under the heading of capacity, lack of... Maybe it's something that'll have to wait for 4G to become more common, maybe it's something that'll kick in if and when the carriers increase 3G capacit, but I'd be amazed if it didn't eventually get off wi-fi only status.

2) The phrase iDevices is a giveaway, they're going to push this to the next iPod Touch (they kinda have to really to get people to upgrade). A lot of iPod Touch's spend their lives in range of a wi-fi network and that increases the potential userbase very quickly. There's also the 'open standard' objective which, if they manage it, might quickly become very popular with VOIP providers owing to point 3.

3) If there's one thing Apple have proved with the iPhone is that they know how to build a device that people actually use. What was the stat at the keynote, 25% of the smartphone market, 55% of the mobile browsing market? That's been the story of the iPhone ever since it was introduced, it may not have every last feature but my god do the people who own it make use of those features. Remember the surge in use of video and photo sharing web sites when the 3GS came along? If it all works as advertised and the quality is good... yeah, I can see this taking off (to a background chorus of geeks crying about how Apple didn't invent this and iSheep, possibly with a fancy light show and smoke machine thrown in).

As for Facetime on the iPad I can see that being a wee bit more like iChat with more features for sharing info, maybe multiple callers... stuff that takes advantage of the extra real estate of the iPad screen basically. There's still the usability issues of a camera in the iPad to work out (lot easier to move about an iPhone than an iPad for a video call after all) but they'll get there if they want to.
 
Expect iPad 2 at least 12 months time.

FaceTime is a nice idea in principal. When you consider the limitations of wifi only, iPhone 4 only etc.. It's a fantastic feature that the majority will never put to any practical use.

Um really - has anyone thought about the difficulty of carrying on a phone conversation with video the whole time - especially with someone you don't like all that much? I mean, you can't roll your eyes or make faces or they'll see you!!

I'm getting an iPhone 4 but I doubt I'll use the FaceTime feature with anyone but my husband and kids. Just my 2 cents.
 
I am looking at FaceTime as a future product instead of what it can do now. Sometimes you need to look at what innovations can come from something like this. Will I use this, maybe but I can see it being a cheaper way then teleconferencing to some of my manufacturing plants in North Texas.
 
Did you not all see how jerky the picture was? I could not handle that for a whole conversation. Not everyone will have a stand available to use in order to have a still phone for the video.
 
The thing I notice most of all is what I have posted about on this forum a couple of times. You get a great picture of nostrils and noses. This is because of the angle the phone is when you're talking on it. Steve had great flaring nostrils in the demo as a matter of fact that's all you could really notice.
 
If 'face time' worked with iChat I could see it being a lot more useful. As I understand it now, the two won't be compatible.

If 'face time' can video chat with iChat, and MSN it would be huge. Until then it is just "meh"
 
2) The phrase iDevices is a giveaway, they're going to push this to the next iPod Touch (they kinda have to really to get people to upgrade). A lot of iPod Touch's spend their lives in range of a wi-fi network and that increases the potential userbase very quickly. There's also the 'open standard' objective which, if they manage it, might quickly become very popular with VOIP providers owing to point 3.

The thing I'm confused about is this - Jobs kept touting how cool it was that you didn't need to set up anything (AIM account, etc) in order to use Facetime, as it uses your mobile phone number. How would that work on the iPad, or better yet, iChat? People keep assuming that it's coming to both of these platforms, but I don't know how it can work without losing that out-of-the-box functionality that he was pushing so much.
 
I'm not sure I agree. I, like millions of others, use video calling through Skype to keep in touch with family, kids etc when away from home. Surely Face Time, or for that matter Skype, on an ipad would be even more practical than using a laptop?

Ironically, you countered your own point. Millions of people use skype to video call to friends and families. You can use skype to call ANY mobile, or landline, or to ANY computers with skype installed. Facetime is ONLY for iphone 4 and ONLY on wifi as of this year. How practicle would it be if you could only make calls to someone with the exact same model phone as you and ONLY on the same network as you?
 
How long do people think it will be before the iPad is updated to include a front facing camera?

I am going to say it will be sometime before iPad 3rd Generation is released, and at some point after this first Generation ;)

On a serious note, I'm sure they will have at least a front facing camera on it, I am very curious if they will attempt something along the design of the iPhone 4 with the glass on back and that Stainless Steel along the sides. Added a great quality look to it and appears to be very functional.
 
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