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roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
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215
UK
Old news. And yes, it is awful. But unfortunately, it's China, so nothing will be done about it.
 

Joshuarocks

macrumors 6502
Mar 12, 2011
364
1
Somewhere in Cyberspace
Foxconn has been known for its human rights abuses of its workers.. this isn't new. While China economically is becoming more and more powerful over the USA, it still has a lot to learn about work place human rights.
 

AppleScruff1

macrumors G4
Feb 10, 2011
10,026
2,949
Foxconn has been known for its human rights abuses of its workers.. this isn't new. While China economically is becoming more and more powerful over the USA, it still has a lot to learn about work place human rights.

This is why they are becoming more and more powerful. They feel that the end justifies the means regardless of the human toll.
 

Maxiseller

macrumors 6502a
Jan 11, 2005
846
1
Little grey, chilly island.
And that is why they have our jobs.. hence another reason why we are in this mess for the long haul.. and it won't heal itself in one day.. try maybe several years, or perhaps longer than that.

They're not your jobs. How self centered of you. And the guy who just said meh...there is something seriously wrong with you. I'm constantly disgusted by lack of compassion of fellow human beings.
 

mojohanna

macrumors 6502a
Jul 7, 2004
868
0
Cleveland
Its not just iphone production or Apple either. Foxconn makes stuff for every major electronics manufacturer.

So this is not an Apple issue. It's Foxconn's issue and the fact that the Chinese government allows them to get away with it.
 

gnasher729

Suspended
Nov 25, 2005
17,980
5,566
Just for your information:

PBS News Hour

Just for your information: If you had bothered to go to Apple's website, look around a bit, and find their annual report about working conditions for employees of their suppliers, you would have found that Apple investigated the case long time ago, Apple's supplier fired a contractor who was found to be using illegal methods and reported that contractor to authorities in China, and everyone whose health was affected is now actually back to work.


Old news? They just broadcasted the story yesterday. :confused:

Yes. They re-broadcast a year old story yesterday, about a problem that has long since been resolved.


Its not just iphone production or Apple either. Foxconn makes stuff for every major electronics manufacturer.

So this is not an Apple issue. It's Foxconn's issue and the fact that the Chinese government allows them to get away with it.

This happened at a contractor who produced parts for iPhones, so Apple actually made it their issue and resolved it. You can say all day long "problems in China are not Apple's problems", but Apple disagrees strongly with you. And maybe the Chinese government lets companies get away with things, but Apple doesn't.


Old news. And yes, it is awful. But unfortunately, it's China, so nothing will be done about it.

Nothing will be done about it in the future, because something has been done about it, months ago.
 
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mojohanna

macrumors 6502a
Jul 7, 2004
868
0
Cleveland
[/QUOTE]This happened at a contractor who produced parts for iPhones, so Apple actually made it their issue and resolved it. You can say all day long "problems in China are not Apple's problems", but Apple disagrees strongly with you. And maybe the Chinese government lets companies get away with things, but Apple doesn't.
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THis is not what I am saying at all. Everyone is quick to blame Apple and pin it on them that these other factories cut corners when Apple is not looking. At best, all Apple, or anyone else for that matter, can do is check things out ahead of time, continually go back and check things unannounced and hope things work out. My point is that it is a shame that a company, like Apple, has to go to this length. That no one on the Chinese government side seems to be interested in addressing issues like this.
 

Abstract

macrumors Penryn
Dec 27, 2002
24,889
921
Location Location Location
Exactly.

You still feel bad Abstract?

Yes. Wow, that backfired for you, didn't it?


Dude, I don't know about everyone else here, but I'm not hooked on Mac stuff, especially the iPhone. In fact, I can get any Mac laptop, iPad, or iPhone for 30% off, and even then I haven't bothered with them.


I'll drop iPhones just for you, if that makes you feel better.
 

zap2

macrumors 604
Mar 8, 2005
7,252
8
Washington D.C
They're not your jobs. How self centered of you.

I took that comment to means "the West's jobs" because thats where most of the iPhones are going. Plus Apple is from the West, and they created the iPhone.


So I really don't see the issue with their wording.
 

zap2

macrumors 604
Mar 8, 2005
7,252
8
Washington D.C
Yes. Wow, that backfired for you, didn't it?


Dude, I don't know about everyone else here, but I'm not hooked on Mac stuff, especially the iPhone. In fact, I can get any Mac laptop, iPad, or iPhone for 30% off, and even then I haven't bothered with them.


I'll drop iPhones just for you, if that makes you feel better.

See you say that, but your actions speak louder then words. Do you have an iPhone or phone made in a similar fashion?

As for not taking a 30% discount on a product you plan on buying anyway, thats just ignorant, theres nothing impressive about that.
 

Abstract

macrumors Penryn
Dec 27, 2002
24,889
921
Location Location Location
See you say that, but your actions speak louder then words. Do you have an iPhone or phone made in a similar fashion?

Yes, but would I get another one if I knew people were getting sick from making it? No. I found out about it yesterday, so.....yes... I have avoided buying iPhones, Nokia mobiles, and Garmin products over the last 2 days.

Did this new information affect my mobile phone choice from 18 months ago? Uh....no. Use your head. :rolleyes:


And yes, I'm aware that there may be more mobile phones made in a factory where people are getting sick from n-hexane, but they specifically pointed out Apple, Nokia, and Garmin, and the workers specifically pointed out the iPhone screen (probably because it's the highest volume product, so they handle it more, so they know what it is).


As for not taking a 30% discount on a product you plan on buying anyway, thats just ignorant, theres nothing impressive about that.

I used the discount to get my MBP, but I still haven't bothered with the iPad, iPad 2, 11" or 13" MBA, ACD, or other things. I don't need to get the latest Apple product, so not getting an iPhone or iPad (if that's affected), whatever, would be pretty easy to do.

What iphone3gs16gb said made it sound as if he actually thought I, and others, couldn't possibly avoid getting new iPhones in the future. Well, sorry to break the news to iphone3gs16gb, a guy who probably isn't strong enough to resist getting new "i-toys", but it's easy to not get an iPhone. Just don't get one.
 

thermodynamic

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May 3, 2009
1,341
1,192
USA
Meh...so what?

You try working there, at their "competitive wages", and see what happens. It won't be pretty, but since "regulations are bad", that's why jobs were being offshored. :( With Apple's clout and prices, surely they could find a more reputable factory to contract with and not pass the added cost onto its customers?

Reading that article made me sick. I feel bad for the workers of China, and why their management and government freely tolerates pollution, such mistreatment of its workers, et cetera... (Granted, China's ability to execute deliberately fraudulent bankers makes an interesting tangent, but that's still a tangent...)
 

thermodynamic

Suspended
May 3, 2009
1,341
1,192
USA
THis is not what I am saying at all. Everyone is quick to blame Apple and pin it on them that these other factories cut corners when Apple is not looking. At best, all Apple, or anyone else for that matter, can do is check things out ahead of time, continually go back and check things unannounced and hope things work out. My point is that it is a shame that a company, like Apple, has to go to this length. That no one on the Chinese government side seems to be interested in addressing issues like this.

That is absolutely true.
 
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