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FINALLY! Colloquy is OUT!

kwjohns

kwjohns

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Maybe it's just me but it seems a little weird to have always offered a desktop version of the program for free but to start charging for a mobile version. I'm not trying to argue that a developer doesn't have a right to charge for their work, I just figure if it was the developer's intention to make money off of the software, why wouldn't he charge for the desktop version as well? Just a curious observation.
 
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Aea

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kwjohns said:
Maybe it's just me but it seems a little weird to have always offered a desktop version of the program for free but to start charging for a mobile version. I'm not trying to argue that a developer doesn't have a right to charge for their work, I just figure if it was the developer's intention to make money off of the software, why wouldn't he charge for the desktop version as well? Just a curious observation.
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There are lots of good free IRC options on the desktop, but very few on the iPhone. Hence where he can compete with a paid product, he charges :)
 
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Daveecee

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Nov 12, 2008
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Bought it last night and gave it a whirl. It works fantastically. One thing though, is that it either does not give a notification when NickServ authentication fails, or I actually DID remember my correct NickServ passwords. My only gripe is that there is no option to turn emoticons off. All around, this is a great, fully-functional app. Recommended highly for any of you IRC users.
 
janey

janey

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kwjohns said:
...why wouldn't he charge for the desktop version as well? Just a curious observation.
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Aea said:
Hence where he can compete with a paid product, he charges :)
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If I had a dime for every time someone asked this about mobile Colloquy I'd be making more money than selling the app itself. But the main developer of mobile Colloquy and of desktop Colloquy are two different people, although there have been fixes to the same Chat Core framework that they share from both sides, and some people doing little things for both sides (like myself). The iPhone also has a $99/year developer fee to sell products on the app store. This is why we are charging for it. It is incredibly difficult to not charge for an app. There is only one IRC client on the app store that is free, and it is ad supported, and that is "free" but not free.

Daveecee said:
Bought it last night and gave it a whirl. It works fantastically. One thing though, is that it either does not give a notification when NickServ authentication fails, or I actually DID remember my correct NickServ passwords. My only gripe is that there is no option to turn emoticons off. All around, this is a great, fully-functional app. Recommended highly for any of you IRC users.
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Please feel free to file tickets about any problems you have, or let us know in #colloquy-mobile on freenode. We are aware some people don't want the emoji, and a preference to change those images to text (if that is what you mean) is a consideration for a future version.
 
kwjohns

kwjohns

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janey said:
If I had a dime for every time someone asked this about mobile Colloquy I'd be making more money than selling the app itself. But the main developer of mobile Colloquy and of desktop Colloquy are two different people, although there have been fixes to the same Chat Core framework that they share from both sides, and some people doing little things for both sides (like myself). The iPhone also has a $99/year developer fee to sell products on the app store. This is why we are charging for it. It is incredibly difficult to not charge for an app. There is only one IRC client on the app store that is free, and it is ad supported, and that is "free" but not free.
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Thanks for the info. Don't have a problem with it, was just curious. :)
 
janey

janey

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kwjohns said:
Thanks for the info. Don't have a problem with it, was just curious. :)
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Oh yeah, wasn't meaning to come off as horrible or something ;) However it has been a fairly polarizing decision...while no contributor had a problem, a lot of others seemed to be pretty split between acceptance/support or disbelief. The FSF of all groups fully supports charging for software as long as the terms of the license are being followed, which is true in our case. However, a fair number of people I have talked to in the past couple of days have completely failed at connecting the idea of open source and the idea of paid apps together... :(

(Of course, the other part of the paid app argument is that none of us would mind a little extra money. ;) )
 
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divabimbers

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Oct 1, 2007
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Well, for what it's worth, I'm loving this client. It's a lot easier to read compared to Rooms which isn't bad in of itself though. I love how I can see my chats all at once which makes it easier to keep tab of what's going on. Might it be possible to incorporate a web browser inside the client itself though so that one doesn't have to be disconnected from IRC to check out a link?
 
janey

janey

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divabimbers said:
Might it be possible to incorporate a web browser inside the client itself though so that one doesn't have to be disconnected from IRC to check out a link?
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It does! Tap any link!

If you want to open the browser to view any URL, type /browser (url), or type /url (url) to open it according to your settings (in Settings.app > Colloquy, like you'd go change ringtones and things), which by default will be Safari.

We also have /google, /amazon, and /wikipedia if you want a shortcut for searching any one of those sites.
 
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kasakka

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So, how does it compare to Rooms? I bought Rooms instead of Colloquy because I remembered having some annoyances with the desktop version back when I used OSX.

Also how does it work with a bouncer? While Rooms connects to my psyBNC just fine, it doesn't seem to do things like /quote playtrafficlog last.
 
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divabimbers

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Oct 1, 2007
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janey said:
It does! Tap any link!

If you want to open the browser to view any URL, type /browser (url), or type /url (url) to open it according to your settings (in Settings.app > Colloquy, like you'd go change ringtones and things), which by default will be Safari.

We also have /google, /amazon, and /wikipedia if you want a shortcut for searching any one of those sites.
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This is excellent news, and I will definitely recommend this to anyone looking for an IRC app since I think this is the best I've ever used. Plus the support is fantastic so kudos!
 
janey

janey

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kasakka said:
So, how does it compare to Rooms? I bought Rooms instead of Colloquy because I remembered having some annoyances with the desktop version back when I used OSX.
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Well, unfortunately there is no such thing as an app store demo :(

Colloquy's got some features now Rooms doesn't have, such as nickname/emoticon/command completions. But beyond that..they're still providing the same core IRC experience I suppose. Mobile Colloquy and Rooms both share the same Chat Core framework that the desktop version of Colloquy uses. Ha. :)

However, either way you go, competition is a good thing, yes? :) The Rooms developer decided he needed a price drop and a new update with a lot of features in Mobile Colloquy 1.0 to compete. ;)

(I'm trying hard not to be biased, but I really think Mobile Colloquy kicks major ass. :D )

kasakka said:
Also how does it work with a bouncer? While Rooms connects to my psyBNC just fine, it doesn't seem to do things like /quote playtrafficlog last.
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None of us have used psybnc in particular...we've had it work fine with miau and znc, although I have no idea how well it would handle multiple networks in psybnc. Some people have let us know it also works fine with irssi-proxy. Unfortunately none of us have psybnc installed to play around with...but I do know that we have a working /quote, but I have no idea if that command works in Rooms..we may share Chat Core, but Chat Core only recently got updates to support commands (as opposed to command support previously being only in the desktop Colloquy application) and the Rooms dev may not have implemented all commands yet.

divabimbers said:
This is excellent news...Plus the support is fantastic so kudos!
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Thanks! We try :) We're also on twitter as @colloquyapp.
 
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