I am just curious for all those dissatisfied with the new Intel mac mini, where you actually planing on buying one? I am curious if Apple actual hurt there sales by using integrated graphics and uping the price.
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For those complaining, who was planing on buying a mini?
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The graphics card could be nicer but tbh it wouldn't put me off given the rest of the spec.
I don't play games or do any high end graphics stuff, just music.
It'd be nice if there was an apple PVR application though. that would swing it for me and many others i suspect.
I don't play games or do any high end graphics stuff, just music.
It'd be nice if there was an apple PVR application though. that would swing it for me and many others i suspect.
Yes, I am / was planning on buying one.
I probably still will but I am certainly going to wait for benchmarks and reviews to appear first and those might convince me not to buy.
If the price had stuck or there was a decent graphics chip, I would have bought one already.
By no means a lost of sale yet but very much wait and see.
I probably still will but I am certainly going to wait for benchmarks and reviews to appear first and those might convince me not to buy.
If the price had stuck or there was a decent graphics chip, I would have bought one already.
By no means a lost of sale yet but very much wait and see.
I wasn't planning on getting one simply because i didn't think they were coming out so soon. However i would love to replace my Mini with a more powerful model. Looking at the prices though it would be more practical for me to get a 17" iMac, which would be faster all round, and connect that up via DVI to my Dell 2005FPW which i'd use as my main screen. I'd love the higher specs of the 20" but i can't really justify having two 20" screens, even if i am in love with dual screen.
More than likely it would be easier to sell a 17" iMac than the 20" version. Ah well still need to sell my SN25P before i can buy one though.
More than likely it would be easier to sell a 17" iMac than the 20" version. Ah well still need to sell my SN25P before i can buy one though.
We were honestly thinking of updating one of our mac mini's but the cost is shocking for performance you get.
By the time we added a new keyboard, mouse, monitor, more ram and maxed out the hard drive it works out more expensive than the iMac 17" and that is far more powerful alround (bigger & faster HD, 128mb dedicated gfx, 1.83 core duo) and comes obviosuly with mnitor & keyboard/mouse...
That's not right... Seriously apple need to sort out the prices or the place for the mac mini just dissapears into nothingness..... A future cube in the making?
By the way the poll should include 'I was but not at that price or with integrated graphics' as both are as big negatives as eaxh other..
By the time we added a new keyboard, mouse, monitor, more ram and maxed out the hard drive it works out more expensive than the iMac 17" and that is far more powerful alround (bigger & faster HD, 128mb dedicated gfx, 1.83 core duo) and comes obviosuly with mnitor & keyboard/mouse...
That's not right... Seriously apple need to sort out the prices or the place for the mac mini just dissapears into nothingness..... A future cube in the making?
By the way the poll should include 'I was but not at that price or with integrated graphics' as both are as big negatives as eaxh other..
I was going to get one but with integrated graphics and the price hike I'm going to get a refurb instead.
I was planning to order one as soon as the store came back up. I started putting my order together, then I saw that they had integrated graphics, and I stopped. I may still buy one, but I'm going to wait for reviews to come in. I don't play computer games (that's what a console is for), so integrated graphics may actually be alright for me. However, I'm going to wait to see what other people say.
The price increase also put me off a little. If both models were $100 cheaper, I probably would have still ordered. As it is, I think I'll go for the Core Solo model, as the Core Duo model is nearly as expensive as an iMac, and I need a new monitor anyway, so that's going to raise the price even more.
The price increase also put me off a little. If both models were $100 cheaper, I probably would have still ordered. As it is, I think I'll go for the Core Solo model, as the Core Duo model is nearly as expensive as an iMac, and I need a new monitor anyway, so that's going to raise the price even more.
So I shouldn't vote, because I am not complaining, right? I'm curious to see what this implies for the iBook, and how these things do in real-world stuff. I don't play games, but I do care about performance in Photoshop and so on. And I don't want any Mac that needs more cables than just the power cable. So no Mac Mini for me anyway. 
I was ready to buy one if it was announced with a DVR feature. Since it does not have this yet, I will wait.
The integrated graphics on the mini makes me think that the iBook will be the same.
Oh well, better luck next product announcement!
The integrated graphics on the mini makes me think that the iBook will be the same.
Oh well, better luck next product announcement!
I too complained, but I bought one for my wife since it is still going to be much faster than the rev. a mini she currently has and because she uses her mini only for ilife and mail.
I bought her the Duo with 2 gigs of memory and the 12 mb drive. For her, this is going to be a great Mac which she is going to love...
I bought her the Duo with 2 gigs of memory and the 12 mb drive. For her, this is going to be a great Mac which she is going to love...
DZ/015 said:
Yeah this is the worry really isn't it?
For a long time Apple haven't really differentiated the power and i lines of laptop, especially when talking of my favourite size, the 12". Looks like they might do this now.
And yeah I wanted DVR capabilities too if I'm really gonna have this next to the TV.
I was going to buy one yesterday. I have decided to hold off because of the graphics situation. Having said that, if it proves to be adequate, from my point of view, then I will still buy one. I am just waiting for some real world testing and benchmarks of the actual mini with that chipset in it.
emotion said:
Same here, I would buy Mini if only one has at least some basic PVR features. Or if FrontRow is more than iLife remote. I am not sure how would new mini work with EyeTV, maybe I can watch recordings with Movies FrontRow option. but I can definitely not use remote to change channels or access TV guide.
Anyway, looks like Apple is trying to make people forget about broadcast content and move them to downloadable/streamed content. Well, I am not ready for that yet.
It's close for me... If it was a bit closer to a complete media hup... recording and watching tv... it'd be ordered now...
So now i'll just wait...
So now i'll just wait...
Yes. Was gonna buy one for playback/use in the family room. However the integrated graphics coupled with the current CPU will not handle 720p without dropping frames and given the notorious bad playback for this chipset for DVD at 480p, I would even question that.
Do not play games (well...yes with an XBOX 360), however do play with photo's, audio and video and wanted the "roku" version for the family room.
I absolutely think the other specs on the mini are fine - can live with the harddrive as I would connect another anyways. However, it really does not matter as the current specs on this chipset are known and have been for some time. Really do not understand why folks are arguing about it. There are tons of software solutions/hardware and other specs available all over the web that would tell you how this chipset will perform and what it can and cannot do.
If it was to be for email, surfing the net, general low level tasks (not gonna even bring up Rosetta) into the discussion than it is fine and quite frankly the $599 should suffice for that. The higher end one is a bit expensive for just basic tasks - but thats just my opinion - it certainly will more than suffice for the average user that does NOT want to connect to their 720p TV and do media stuff.
Do not play games (well...yes with an XBOX 360
), however do play with photo's, audio and video and wanted the "roku" version for the family room.I absolutely think the other specs on the mini are fine - can live with the harddrive as I would connect another anyways. However, it really does not matter as the current specs on this chipset are known and have been for some time. Really do not understand why folks are arguing about it. There are tons of software solutions/hardware and other specs available all over the web that would tell you how this chipset will perform and what it can and cannot do.
If it was to be for email, surfing the net, general low level tasks (not gonna even bring up Rosetta) into the discussion than it is fine and quite frankly the $599 should suffice for that. The higher end one is a bit expensive for just basic tasks - but thats just my opinion - it certainly will more than suffice for the average user that does NOT want to connect to their 720p TV and do media stuff.
