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Hi, I have a working Mojave installation on my MP 5,1, but I want to create a fusion drive and reinstall the OS from scratch. Is this possible with an RX560 installed (no boot screen)?

I'm guessing I use the createinstallmedia tool to create a USB installer. Do I then select it as the startup disk from the Startup Disk system preference? Once in the installer, can I get to a terminal to create the fusion drive? Or is there no video at that point?

Thanks!
 
It can take a long time for a screen to appear, patience is the key here. I timed various scenarios when doing this myself and it took on average 3 minutes before anything appeared on screen.
 
Thank you!

I ended up changing the startup disk to the USB installer, and everything worked great. And yeah, wow, nothing but a black screen for minutes until the installer came up (wish we had USB 3, that's for sure).
 
I could not create a USB installer through my USB 3.0 card. Therefore I am assuming you could not use a USB 3.0 card for installation either
 
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Curious... would it be possible to install via USB 3 PCIe card? (My gut feeling says it's probably not safe)

USB 3 card only initialise by OS level driver but not the cMP’s BootROM. Therefore, you can never boot from it.

Unless someone figure out how to hack the cMP BootROM (like what we did before the 140.0.0.0.0 to facilitate NVMe boot), this won’t be an option for cMP users.
 
Hi all,

I am on a Mac Pro 3,1 with an unflashed 750 Ti, running Sierra 10.12.6. Whatever I do, I can't boot from a usb drive. I can't even use single user mode. I used mojave patcher from dosdude and while I am able to select the usb drive from startup disk on system preferences nothing happens when the computer restarts except for a black screen. I tried 3 times and waited from 15 to 20 minutes and still nothing. In order to do a clean install of macOS Mojave, is my ONLY OPTION to put back my original EFI-flashed GPU and after the installation of Mojave change the GPU again ? I ordered a used Nvidia Quadro k5000 which is officially metal supported. I just need some guidance regarding the steps I need to follow in order to do a clean install of macOS Mojave on my PCIe AHCI SSD. Thank You, In Advance.
 
Hi all,

I am on a Mac Pro 3,1 with an unflashed 750 Ti, running Sierra 10.12.6. Whatever I do, I can't boot from a usb drive. I can't even use single user mode. I used mojave patcher from dosdude and while I am able to select the usb drive from startup disk on system preferences nothing happens when the computer restarts except for a black screen. I tried 3 times and waited from 15 to 20 minutes and still nothing. In order to do a clean install of macOS Mojave, is my ONLY OPTION to put back my original EFI-flashed GPU and after the installation of Mojave change the GPU again ? I ordered a used Nvidia Quadro k5000 which is officially metal supported. I just need some guidance regarding the steps I need to follow in order to do a clean install of macOS Mojave on my PCIe AHCI SSD. Thank You, In Advance.
You should ask your question in the macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread thread, not here.
 
USB 3 card only initialise by OS level driver but not the cMP’s BootROM. Therefore, you can never boot from it.

Unless someone figure out how to hack the cMP BootROM (like what we did before the 140.0.0.0.0 to facilitate NVMe boot), this won’t be an option for cMP users.

I have used the Sonnet 4 port USB3 PCI card and a card which has both eSATA and USB3.1 gen2. None of the USB3 ports work, you need to plug it into one of the USB2 ports on the computer but it should work with a USB3 drive, with USB2 speed. Both the USB/SATA split card and the Sonnet card have eSATA3 ports, which will work as long as you can power them. Besides SSDs usually get speeds around 550MB/s with these eSATA3 ports, but booting from USB2 ports gets around 25MB/s.
You don't need the EFI to upgrade from the video card, just a long time if you're using onboard USB. What you need is the full fresh version of the installer FROM APPLE Store, about 6GB. Start the update, and it should reboot with instructions how to do the bootRom. If it reboots and, asks you to do the upgrade, STOP, the flash to 140, or later didn't work.. That happened to me, but I didn't have to start over, I just ran the latest installer again, and this time it worked fine. Do not use any beta upgrades as one of them has a problem that can brick a single processor cMP. Check out the "cMP upgrade site" for more details. http://blog.greggant.com
 
Thank you!

I ended up changing the startup disk to the USB installer, and everything worked great. And yeah, wow, nothing but a black screen for minutes until the installer came up (wish we had USB 3, that's for sure).

Hi - Can you explain which steps you followed, and how much of it was 'blind'? i too have a mac pro 5,1 with an RX580 installed and I need to perform a clean install. so far I've inserted the old GT120 and I'm using DosDude1's patcher, but the installation is not stable (i'm basically getting stuck on the loading screen; and even in 'safe mode', everything is super slow). So I'd like to try a fresh install using Apple's official installer...
thanks!
 
Hi - Can you explain which steps you followed, and how much of it was 'blind'? i too have a mac pro 5,1 with an RX580 installed and I need to perform a clean install. so far I've inserted the old GT120 and I'm using DosDude1's patcher, but the installation is not stable (i'm basically getting stuck on the loading screen; and even in 'safe mode', everything is super slow). So I'd like to try a fresh install using Apple's official installer...
thanks!

Hi, I think what I did was create a macOS installer on a USB stick, then booted from it and did the install. The "dark" part was the slow boot process that had to take place before the video drivers loaded and the screen came to life.

I think I set the startup disk to the USB flash drive using the startup control panel, but I could have just held down the 'C' key I guess.

Does that make sense?
 
If you don't have the bootROM flashes upgraded, I might suggest that you just do a normal update from your previous OS. Once the flash is done, you can go back and work from the USB installer and don't have to worry about having it do the flash first. You don't even have to install the flash once it has finished the flash and go directly to the clean install. Here's the thing with the bootROM flash. This is a hardware flash and it's not dependent on the OS. Once you start the OS upgrade, it should start the flash with instructions to shut down and when restarting to hold down the on button until it gives you a funny beep, and then restarts. Hold that button longer until it actually starts to reboot. If it works, it will be a gray screen with a progress bar (or not) which you may not see, but here's how to tell if it's working and when it's finished. On a cMP, when the flash starts, it opens a DVD drawer, and closes the drawer when it's finished. (5-6 minutes?) When it's done, I believe it reboots and says you can continue your OS update. Just be prepared to wait for a long time if you are booting from USB. I recommend a SSD in drive bay 1, with the other bays empty. Install times will be shorter, but may still take several minutes to get the installation started. Essentially, the bR flash is pretty much blind, but the DVD drawer is conforting. Installation times are longer, so don't give up. I've done 3 or 4 cMPs and with the final bootup after copying the OS Install. BTW, make certain you have the full installer which is just over 6GB in the Mojave installer. Sometimes it seems to take forever, so go have a couple shots, and leave it to itself to do the initial install. Also, a clean install should only be about 30GB. I have clones of both HS and Mojave. Once you get to 144.000, You can only go back to Sierra, but you can now use NVMe drives with speeds up to 3,000GB/s. With a regular PCI NVMe card, the max is about half of that due to the PCI 2.0. I use a IO Crest NVMe enclosure card that converts PCI slot2 (X16) to PCI 3.0 speeds. It get reads of about 2,800 MB/s on a Samsung 970 EVO. That card also has 2 available slots and has a big heat sync and a small fan. (about $200) I have a 2-SATA SSD RAID0 on a Sonnet full length SATA3 PCI card. It gets reads of about 1,000MB/s and has twice the risk. You can't upgrade to Mojave without Metal video card, but once you have the OS installed, you can run it on your old GT120 video card, and you can use RAIDs. It's just the install Mojave process that's so picky.
 
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