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Dreads

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ok I was in a phone shop today whilst waiting for the mrs and I found myself glaring into the screen of a galaxy edge plus I must admit that screen is a thing of pure beauty ok my question is I am currently an iPhone 6plus user but I wasn't none to impressed with apples s upgrade last week..... How long do android updates last eg my mrs still has an iPhone 4s and apple still supports it with iOS updates is it the same thing with android os updates.... Cheers......
 

gotluck

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2 years for most carrier android phones

nexus and flagship sony phones go up to 3 years, in recent history at least

iOS support is more long term (buying right after they boost ram is the best bet (like right now with 2gb ram)) as seen by the 4s and ipad 2
 

Tsepz

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Pretty much what Gotluck said.
The S6 Edge Plus is one of the 1st Samsungs to get 4GB RAM, so expect quite a bit of support for the next 2years. After that, don't expect much.
 

Dreads

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Thxs for your answers guys it's a shame they don't offer more support I really do like that edge plus....
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Thxs for your answers guys it's a shame they don't offer more support I really do like that edge plus....

Android's core apps will update until your phone's requirements doesn't meet the minimum. That can be for the next 4-6 years depending on device. This is the same with many features that Android might have available later on.

But as far as TouchWiz updates, it's usually around 2 years and you're stuck with the last version update forever, unless you root and install custom roms of the latest Android version. But you can still update many core apps for TW from the Galaxy app store.

It's a give and take thing when compared to Apple, cause most core apps and features on iOS require a full OS update. For example: Android Pay was just released and can still be used on 4.3. With Apple, stuff like that only comes included with the latest OS updates.

So it really depends on whether you care most about core app updates or entire OS updates.
 
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iSheep5S

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I think the Galaxy phones keep up with updates better than other Samsung's.

My view is this, i plan on keeping my S5 for a long time as i really like it. It's on lolipop now. When it falls behind i think it will be ok because... Right now there is a small selection of devices on lolipop, most are on Kitkat thus android APPS support for a long time even if you fall behind.

Lolipop is just ahead of Froyo!!!

Touchwiz has many features not on stock android so there is that too.

Maybe due to the S6 and S6 edge being less bloated they may update quicker?

Here ---> http://www.statista.com/statistics/...-platforms-on-mobile-devices-with-android-os/
 

nj-morris

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It's hard to say. Samsung phones in particular usually last around 3 years? But as they get older the longer it takes to get the upgrade. For instance, the Note II from 3 years ago has KitKat, but Samsung has stated that they are working on Lollipop for it, and about a year has passed since Lollipop has been released.
If you want a phone to keep for about 3/4 years, get an iPhone. Not only are they supported for about 5 years, but all devices get updates on the first minute.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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It's hard to say. Samsung phones in particular usually last around 3 years? But as they get older the longer it takes to get the upgrade. For instance, the Note II from 3 years ago has KitKat, but Samsung has stated that they are working on Lollipop for it, and about a year has passed since Lollipop has been released.
If you want a phone to keep for about 3/4 years, get an iPhone. Not only are they supported for about 5 years, but all devices get updates on the first minute.

That will mean very little when the majority of added features are not compatible with iDevices 4-5 years old. My 4S and iPad 2, is missing out on anything worthwhile on iOS9. Meanwhile my Note 2 can still update some of the core/system apps and features while being stuck on KitKat.

I think updates matter differently on iOS and Android devices.
 

JaySoul

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My aunt is still using her Samsung Galaxy S2 happily.

Obviously it may not get core support for certain stuff, but the apps themselves will always get great support at least.
 

nj-morris

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That will mean very little when the majority of added features are not compatible with iDevices 4-5 years old. My 4S and iPad 2, is missing out on anything worthwhile on iOS9. Meanwhile my Note 2 can still update some of the core/system apps and features while being stuck on KitKat.

I think updates matter differently on iOS and Android devices.

True, but that only applies to iOS 9. I'm pretty sure all the iOS 8 features were added to all the devices, not new ones in particular. And if you look at the Note 5, 4 and 3, (and soon, I'm presuming, the Note II) all of them running Lollipop, the software is still completely different on all of them.
 

Tsepz

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That will mean very little when the majority of added features are not compatible with iDevices 4-5 years old. My 4S and iPad 2, is missing out on anything worthwhile on iOS9. Meanwhile my Note 2 can still update some of the core/system apps and features while being stuck on KitKat.

I think updates matter differently on iOS and Android devices.

This is very true! In actual fact the Note 2 on KitKat can run about 99% of the apps the Note 5 can on Lollipop, most Android apps are simply dependant on hardware e.g. minimum 1GB RAM and a 1.5GHz CPU plus a HD720P display.

True, but that only applies to iOS 9. I'm pretty sure all the iOS 8 features were added to all the devices, not new ones in particular. And if you look at the Note 5, 4 and 3, (and soon, I'm presuming, the Note II) all of them running Lollipop, the software is still completely different on all of them.
Nope, even in iOS8 the much older iPhones and iPads didn't get certain features.
 

Dreads

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Does security become a factor when you can no longer update android os?
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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True, but that only applies to iOS 9. I'm pretty sure all the iOS 8 features were added to all the devices, not new ones in particular.

Actually on iOS8, Airdrop, Handoff, and other random changes are missing from the 4S. iPad 2 is missing damn near everything, which is understandable due to only 512mb RAM and hardware.


And if you look at the Note 5, 4 and 3, (and soon, I'm presuming, the Note II) all of them running Lollipop, the software is still completely different on all of them.

That's the TW design that stays looking different. But core Android apps are still updated, and you can manually upgrade the most of the core TW apps from the Galaxy app store.

If you absolutely must have the updated TW design, then you'll probably be disappointed.
 
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Tsepz

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Just discovered that bloody AdBlocking in iOS is only supported by 64bit iOS devices only, like WTF!? We've been able to Adblock in Android for about as long as Android existed, since when does that require specific hardware??? It's very strange things that tend to put me off Apple at times.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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Here's a chart of Nexus updates vs Apple. I know my Nexus 7(2013) is still a question whether it will update to M, cause it wasn't involved with the preview/beta. Nexus 7(2012) will not upgrade to M.

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gotluck

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Just discovered that bloody AdBlocking in iOS is only supported by 64bit iOS devices only, like WTF!? We've been able to Adblock in Android for about as long as Android existed, since when does that require specific hardware??? It's very strange things that tend to put me off Apple at times.

that is really a perfect example
 
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