Galaxy S/Note line running iOS

[Sevanw]

I'm a hardware guy through and through. And now that an Android OEM completely dominates in all hardware components of a device, most Apple enthusiasts have reverted to the "but it doesn't run iOS" argument. Which is a legit argument. But it used to be, "I buy iPhone because it has the best camera or the best display with most accurate colors." Which of course no longer holds water, not by a long shot. These days you hear, "well the camera or display on the iPhone is good enough for me." And you also see this in the media as well. They now say, "you can't go wrong with any flagship phone these days." No longer do we hear that a particular phone is clearly better than the other. Funny how that is. Only a few reviewers (MKBHD, Phonearena, Engadget come to mind) have come out and said straight out, the GS6/S6 Edge has the best display and camera hands down. But I have to wonder, what would sales of iPhone look like if the Galaxy S and Note line ran iOS. Wouldn't any tech enthusiast have no choice but to buy a Galaxy S or Note at that point? What reason would there to buy an iPhone for the same price or possibly more? What do you think would happen the Android market share? What are your thoughts?

 

[Fernandez21]

I'm a hardware guy through and through. And now that an Android OEM completely dominates in all hardware components of a device, most Apple enthusiasts have reverted to the "but it doesn't run iOS" argument. Which is a legit argument. But it used to be, "I buy iPhone because it has the best camera or the best display with most accurate colors." Which of course no longer holds water, not by a long shot. These days you hear, "well the camera or display on the iPhone is good enough for me." And you also see this in the media as well. They now say, "you can't go wrong with any flagship phone these days." No longer do we hear that a particular phone is clearly better than the other. Funny how that is. Only a few reviewers (MKBHD, Phonearena, Engadget come to mind) have come out and said straight out, the GS6/S6 Edge has the best display and camera hands down. But I have to wonder, what would sales of iPhone look like if the Galaxy S and Note line ran iOS. Wouldn't any tech enthusiast have no choice but to buy a Galaxy S or Note at that point? What reason would there to buy an iPhone for the same price or possibly more? What do you think would happen the Android market share? What are your thoughts?

I don't get what your saying. The iphone camera had been the best until the S6 came out 4 months ago, do you expect every iPhone owner to just throw them away and get the S6? Same with the screen, the 6 Plus and Note 4 had the best screens out until the S6. Most people keep the same phone for at least year.

And even though the S6 is better in that regard, it's not night and day better, it's just enough to acknowledge it's better but not enough to spend hundreds of dollars when the current phone you have is close enough in quality.

Also, not sure how the S6 and Note running ios would help androids market share, if anything it'll hurt it as those are the 2 best android phones out imo and they would be running ios.

Plus, not sure why you expect all tech enthusiast to drop the iphone and get the S6. Don't get me wrong, I think the S6 is one of the best handsets out and the best android phone out, but even the people who prefer android aren't universally on the S6.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I would absolutely hate iOS on my S6 edge. Maybe in the future, when or if iOS is much more open, would I like to see it on another device. But for now, iPhone and iOS is pretty much synonymous with each other.

 

[gotluck]

A hardware guy should realize how awesome Apple a series processor is though

Conversely I would love to see Apple hardware on android, just add ram

 

[Fernandez21]

A hardware guy should realize how awesome Apple a series processor is though

Conversely I would love to see Apple hardware on android, just add ram

Dude, iPhone 6 running stock android with 3GB ram. How sweet would that be?

 

[Sevanw]

I don't get what your saying. The iphone camera had been the best until the S6 came out 4 months ago, do you expect every iPhone owner to just throw them away and get the S6? Same with the screen, the 6 Plus and Note 4 had the best screens out until the S6. Most people keep the same phone for at least year.

And even though the S6 is better in that regard, it's not night and day better, it's just enough to acknowledge it's better but not enough to spend hundreds of dollars when the current phone you have is close enough in quality.

Also, not sure how the S6 and Note running ios would help androids market share, if anything it'll hurt it as those are the 2 best android phones out imo and they would be running ios.

Plus, not sure why you expect all tech enthusiast to drop the iphone and get the S6. Don't get me wrong, I think the S6 is one of the best handsets out and the best android phone out, but even the people who prefer android aren't universally on the S6.

OK a few things I need to make clear. I'm not PC and don't buy into the "best phone for me" point of view. I believe there is a best phone overall. As I've already stated, iPhone owners and the media alike have been saying for years how the iPhone was hands down the best phone around. Now that the competition has blown pass them, they've come out with this PC "best phone for you" conclusion to all the Vs reviews. Second, The Note 4 has a better screen and camera than any iPhone. There's no debating this. There just isn't.

Now, nowhere did I say I expect people should drop their one year old phone and pick up a Galaxy S/Note running iOS. I'm referring to anyone in the market for a new purchase or upgrade of an iOS phone at the time said hypothetical situation was present. If they had a GS6/Note 5 beast of a phone next to an iPhone 6S/6S+ with such inferior hardware what do you think would happen to the sale of the iPhone? I think the results would tell us a lot about why people buy iPhones. A lot of people don't like to admit they buy it simpley because it's Apple. Again, perfectly fine, but illogical. Also, I agree with you about Android market share taking a hit. Not sure why you thought I suggested it would help android

 

[Sevanw]

Dude, iPhone 6 running stock android with 3GB ram. How sweet would that be?

Ok, I think you guys have this wrong, the whole point of this thread is to see how world dominating hardware like on the Galaxy line running iOS next to mid tier hardware in the iPhone would effect sales of iPhones and Android market share. If you want to see an iPhone running stock Android, please look back at a GS4 or HTC One GPE. Really now. Lol

 

[Fernandez21]

OK a few things I need to make clear. I'm not PC and don't buy into the "best phone for me" point of view. I believe there is a best phone overall. As I've already stated, iPhone owners and the media alike have been saying for years how the iPhone was hands down the best phone around. Now that the competition has blown pass them, they've come out with this PC "best phone for you" conclusion to all the Vs reviews. Second, The Note 4 has a better screen and camera than any iPhone. There's no debating this. There just isn't.

Now, nowhere did I say I expect people should drop their one year old phone and pick up a Galaxy S/Note running iOS. I'm referring to anyone in the market for a new purchase or upgrade of an iOS phone at the time said hypothetical situation was present. If they had a GS6/Note 5 beast of a phone next to an iPhone 6S/6S+ with such inferior hardware what do you think would happen to the sale of the iPhone? I think the results would tell us a lot about why people buy iPhones. A lot of people don't like to admit they buy it simpley because it's Apple. Again, perfectly fine, but illogical. Also, I agree with you about Android market share taking a hit. Not sure why you thought I suggested it would help android

Sorry, I just don't see how the hardware on either 6 or 6 Plus is so "inferior". I have both the Note 4 and 6 Plus, and bought and used the S6 as my daily driver for over a month before trading it for an iPhone 6, so I have plenty of experience with all 4 phones your talking about. Plus I'm still planning on buying a Note 5, though the Moto X sure is tempting.

And it's not "PC" about the best phone, as there are several aspects that go into a phone, and no phone is best in each and every aspect. Some excel in one area but are average in an other.

I will agree you that if the S6 or Note 5 ran iOS that a lot of people would by those instead of the iPhone, just as if there was an iPhone that ran android a lot of people would pick that up as well.

 

[gotluck]

Ok, I think you guys have this wrong, the whole point of this thread is to see how world dominating hardware like on the Galaxy line running iOS next to mid tier hardware in the iPhone would effect sales of iPhones and Android market share. If you want to see an iPhone running stock Android, please look back at a GS4 or HTC One GPE. Really now. Lol

A8 is definitely significantly better than snapdragon 600

 

[spinedoc77]

I'm a hardware guy through and through. And now that an Android OEM completely dominates in all hardware components of a device, most Apple enthusiasts have reverted to the "but it doesn't run iOS" argument. Which is a legit argument. But it used to be, "I buy iPhone because it has the best camera or the best display with most accurate colors." Which of course no longer holds water, not by a long shot. These days you hear, "well the camera or display on the iPhone is good enough for me." And you also see this in the media as well. They now say, "you can't go wrong with any flagship phone these days." No longer do we hear that a particular phone is clearly better than the other. Funny how that is. Only a few reviewers (MKBHD, Phonearena, Engadget come to mind) have come out and said straight out, the GS6/S6 Edge has the best display and camera hands down. But I have to wonder, what would sales of iPhone look like if the Galaxy S and Note line ran iOS. Wouldn't any tech enthusiast have no choice but to buy a Galaxy S or Note at that point? What reason would there to buy an iPhone for the same price or possibly more? What do you think would happen the Android market share? What are your thoughts?

I'd love the opposite, run vanilla Android on an iPhone 6. Apple still has the most reliable and beautiful hardware but a primitive OS. Where Android is so customizable and usable, but the hardware is very unreliable on Samsung devices.

 

[C DM]

"If it's not an iPhone, it's not an iPhone".

 

[Truefan31]

How about waiting til September for the new iPhone to better evaluate this thread. Or even the note 5.

Samsung should worry why the s6 disappointed in sales and do a better job of knowing what the consumers want (s6 edge supposedly). Phones like the one plus 2 and moto x will hurt Samsung flagship galaxy phone sales more than the iPhone imo. The iPhone will continue to be a top selling phone for years. Smh if Samsung has a s6, s6 edge, s6 active, s6 plus, and note 5.

 

[nickchallis92]

I don't get what your saying. The iphone camera had been the best until the S6 came out 4 months ago, do you expect every iPhone owner to just throw them away and get the S6? Same with the screen, the 6 Plus and Note 4 had the best screens out until the S6. Most people keep the same phone for at least year.

And even though the S6 is better in that regard, it's not night and day better, it's just enough to acknowledge it's better but not enough to spend hundreds of dollars when the current phone you have is close enough in quality.

Also, not sure how the S6 and Note running ios would help androids market share, if anything it'll hurt it as those are the 2 best android phones out imo and they would be running ios.

Plus, not sure why you expect all tech enthusiast to drop the iphone and get the S6. Don't get me wrong, I think the S6 is one of the best handsets out and the best android phone out, but even the people who prefer android aren't universally on the S6.

Er...You're telling me before the S6, the iPhones had the best screens? That's laughable. They weren't even 720p

 

[C DM]

Er...You're telling me before the S6, the iPhones had the best screens? That's laughable. They weren't even 720p

And yet they were still considered great. Specs/numbers aren't everything.

 

[Khalanad75]

I think the results would tell us a lot about why people buy iPhones. A lot of people don't like to admit they buy it simpley because it's Apple. Again, perfectly fine, but illogical.

I think You make a lot of assumptions, specially after you throw out the "people buy the phones they want" out of the ring.

If people are not caught up hardware wars, and they have always used an iPhone, why would they suddenly jump to an android phone and vice-versa.

More than people buy it just because it's Apple. How about people generally don't like change and on a whole stick with what they know.

 

[I7guy]

I think You make a lot of assumptions, specially after you throw out the "people buy the phones they want" out of the ring.

If people are not caught up hardware wars, and they have always used an iPhone, why would they suddenly jump to an android phone and vice-versa.

More than people buy it just because it's Apple. How about people generally don't like change and on a whole stick with what they know.

Just another variation of "Apple bashing" has emerged. Assumptions are being made people buy "only because of the brand name" differentiated from the brand brings certain characteristics that people may like and that is why that brand is looked at first.

 

[MRU]

It'll never happen and it's probably for the best.

 

[Fernandez21]

Er...You're telling me before the S6, the iPhones had the best screens? That's laughable. They weren't even 720p

Uh, you do know there's more to a screen other than screen resolution?

What I said was before the S6, the Note 4 and iPhone 6 Plus had the bests screens, and to elaborate, prior to that it was between the iPhone and HTC One line for best screen.

 

[sartrekid]

OK a few things I need to make clear. I'm not PC and don't buy into the "best phone for me" point of view. I believe there is a best phone overall. As I've already stated, iPhone owners and the media alike have been saying for years how the iPhone was hands down the best phone around. Now that the competition has blown pass them, they've come out with this PC "best phone for you" conclusion to all the Vs reviews. Second, The Note 4 has a better screen and camera than any iPhone. There's no debating this. There just isn't.

Now, nowhere did I say I expect people should drop their one year old phone and pick up a Galaxy S/Note running iOS. I'm referring to anyone in the market for a new purchase or upgrade of an iOS phone at the time said hypothetical situation was present. If they had a GS6/Note 5 beast of a phone next to an iPhone 6S/6S+ with such inferior hardware what do you think would happen to the sale of the iPhone? I think the results would tell us a lot about why people buy iPhones. A lot of people don't like to admit they buy it simpley because it's Apple. Again, perfectly fine, but illogical. Also, I agree with you about Android market share taking a hit. Not sure why you thought I suggested it would help android

I don't get the point of this post (and thread)... This post feels awfully rhetorical. Do you actually seek genuine answers or just affirmation that many people buy Apple products because of Apple's powerful branding? You do seem to already have made up your mind as to why people buy iPhones in the first place.

You categorically rule out people's preferences and reasonings and are replacing them with your very own set of parameters along with assumptions that pretty much render any arguments that don't adhere to your idea invalid.

Very few people, even on this forum, deny that the current iPhone doesn't run the highest possible specs. At least I haven't come across many such posts. It's also quite obvious that Apple's brand is considered prestigious by many. Specs alone have never been a sole factor to any product's success or failure. Neglecting the importance of social, psychological, and marketing factors in a consumer's buying decision makes for an incomplete argument. Thus, if people buy an iPhone because they love that brand, then that is hardly an illogical decision based on that premise in the same way it's not illogical to buy a phone with the best available specs, if that is the buyer's premise.

 

[nickchallis92]

And yet they were still considered great. Specs/numbers aren't everything.

I disagree. The iPhone screens were obviously low res when looking at them next to the HTC One or Note 3.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I have no idea if a random brand phone running iOS would sell well or if Apple put Android on an iPhone? I couldn't see the point of that anyway because there just isn't a need for it. The iPhone is often ridiculed for not boasting the most powerful hardware so why would putting a hardware thirsty OS on it make it appealing? If hardware packed Android phones are the best out there and Android is the best OS in your opinion, why would it be great to see it on an iPhone? Apple make the software and hardware in unison so it works well on the specification that has been chosen for the job. Odd topic really.

I have an iPhone 6 because I like Apple's approach to producing a mobile phone. The product design is cool, I like the App Stores layout and what it has to offer, I like the clean way iOS is laid out and I like the way my phone syncs with my iPad and a few of the Apple exclusive applications most of my friends and family also use. It's the right choice for me at this moment in time and to be honest I don't have to justify that to anybody. If people want to laugh at all the supposed misguided iPhone owners (in their opinion) then that is their sad cause. The S6 is a lovely device. If it had come out in September last year when my contract was up then I could well have been tempted to try it out. I am certainly not going to break my contract early and possibly lose money to dump my already very good iPhone 6 in favour of it. What would be the point? The funny thing is we see so many tit for tat exchanges on here about better phones and hardware yet most of us do pretty much the same tasks on our phones anyway! It's all about enjoying the interface and experience and a check sheet of specs doesn't make me enjoy a device any more than what I am already enjoying using. The post above this one makes the point that iPhone screens are low res. they might well be but how often do you hold your phone next to another and worry about it? I don't lol. If all this todger waving scores computer club points then fair enough, but this really is one of those threads that draws you in in disbelief lol. Have fun.

 

[Dave245]

I'm a hardware guy through and through. And now that an Android OEM completely dominates in all hardware components of a device, most Apple enthusiasts have reverted to the "but it doesn't run iOS" argument. Which is a legit argument. But it used to be, "I buy iPhone because it has the best camera or the best display with most accurate colors." Which of course no longer holds water, not by a long shot. These days you hear, "well the camera or display on the iPhone is good enough for me." And you also see this in the media as well. They now say, "you can't go wrong with any flagship phone these days." No longer do we hear that a particular phone is clearly better than the other. Funny how that is. Only a few reviewers (MKBHD, Phonearena, Engadget come to mind) have come out and said straight out, the GS6/S6 Edge has the best display and camera hands down. But I have to wonder, what would sales of iPhone look like if the Galaxy S and Note line ran iOS. Wouldn't any tech enthusiast have no choice but to buy a Galaxy S or Note at that point? What reason would there to buy an iPhone for the same price or possibly more? What do you think would happen the Android market share? What are your thoughts?

I have a iPhone 6+ and i find it a very reliable phone, my past experiences with Andriod have been terrible, I owned a Samsung Galaxy S4 and it was the worse phone I ever used. I ended up selling after 8 months and going back to the iPhone. Don't get me wrong there are some really nice looking phones out there, HTC and Samsungs Note and Edge phones look good, but what totally puts me off is Android, my past experiences have found it to be buggy and unreliable, also updates on these devices such as Samsungs Galaxy range don't happen for a long time, sometimes even at all, where as Apples IOS have updates for all of it's phones.

Yes there are other phones out there with better cameras and better screen technology but personally I would much prefer my phone work like it does with my iPhone than have loads of features and technology. I think companies like Samsung are worried now that Apple have entered into the phablet market with the iPhone 6+ and this is apparently the reason why Samsung are announcing their Note 5 early. Personally I think it's personal preference but I think the iPhone is the most reliable phone with the best OS, but this is based on my experiences and my opinions.