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quink

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May 22, 2010
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The home button on my iPad broke. I ticked a single box in XCode, which enabled the multi-touch gestures, which has improved the user experience a lot! Cheaper than fixing it too (Apple quote is $300).

Now, the multi-touch gestures are being introduced for iPad 2, and iPad 2 only, because the app-switching gesture which I never used was slow on iPad 1.

So, what can I do other than jailbreak forever (and tethered jailbreaking sucks :|), paying $300, or having a fairly expensive paperweight?

Any options?
 

Intell

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Jan 24, 2010
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The only to get the gestures on an iPad 1G with iOS 5 is to jailbreak.

Also, this question has been posted many times before. Try searching next time.
 

quink

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May 22, 2010
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So Apple is forcing an update, that'd in any case worsen the user experience and in my case breaks the device completely, and their response is 'Pay $300 to get the worse experience back'.

Last time ever I'm buying Apple.

In addition to $1200 in unauthorised charges from iTMS once popping up on my credit card and my wife's MacBook falling apart from a manufacturing defect that they say is just 2 millimeters from being replaced under warranty.

**** Apple.
 

foiden

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Dec 13, 2008
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I still think they'll add this in later, it may either be a mistake or something else they were trying to wait on due to a small issue or something.

On the iOS page, the new Gestures are clearly advertised to work on both iPad models. Due to that alone, I think they'll patch it in, sometime soon.
 

colorblindpicas

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Sep 11, 2009
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I hope so. This features not working thing is giving apple a run for android's money in terms of fragmentation. Having trivial things break on older devices won't sell new ones, just make people more upset and confused.
 

dooyou

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Jun 5, 2007
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I still think they'll add this in later, it may either be a mistake or something else they were trying to wait on due to a small issue or something.

This feature (for iPad 1. Gen) was missing from iOS5 Beta 1 to Beta 7. You can be sure that there is no mistake.
 

Intell

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Jan 24, 2010
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I still think they'll add this in later, it may either be a mistake or something else they were trying to wait on due to a small issue or something.

On the iOS page, the new Gestures are clearly advertised to work on both iPad models. Due to that alone, I think they'll patch it in, sometime soon.

It won't be added in at a later time. Nor, was it ever advertised as a feature on the 1G.
 

dccorona

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Jun 12, 2008
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So Apple is forcing an update, that'd in any case worsen the user experience and in my case breaks the device completely, and their response is 'Pay $300 to get the worse experience back'.

Last time ever I'm buying Apple.

In addition to $1200 in unauthorised charges from iTMS once popping up on my credit card and my wife's MacBook falling apart from a manufacturing defect that they say is just 2 millimeters from being replaced under warranty.

**** Apple.

it doesnt break the device. You broke the device. Had you not broken it before the update, the update wouldnt be breaking anything

you go ahead and go with another company...I guarantee you you will not get better customer service anywhere. Go ahead and get an android tablet too, and when an update comes around, wait and see if you ever get it...you most likely wont get it on release day, thats for sure
 

foiden

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Dec 13, 2008
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It won't be added in at a later time. Nor, was it ever advertised as a feature on the 1G.

Actually, it was advertised for the iPad without stating it was iPad 2-specific all until about 20 minutes ago, when they actually updated the web page to say it was iPad 2. Seriously, they just updated it. I guess when I mentioned it in the Apple community, they quickly responded by changing the text.
 

Intell

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Jan 24, 2010
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Actually, it was advertised for the iPad without stating it was iPad 2-specific all until about 20 minutes ago, when they actually updated the web page to say it was iPad 2. Seriously, they just updated it. I guess when I mentioned it, they quickly responded by changing the text.

I have never seen it displayed as a feature for the 1G. In fact it never was a real feature on the 1G. It was always a "developmental test feature", not something that was ever going to be built into its OS.
 

foiden

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Dec 13, 2008
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I have never seen it displayed as a feature for the 1G. In fact it never was a real feature on the 1G. It was always a "developmental test feature", not something that was ever going to be built into its OS.

It was earlier, on the iOS5 information page. They didn't clarify that it was iPad2-only until very very recently. It wasn't a (non-developer accessible) feature in older OS revisions, of course.
 

dooyou

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Jun 5, 2007
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It was earlier, on the iOS5 information page. They didn't clarify that it was iPad2-only until very very recently. It wasn't a (non-developer accessible) feature in older OS revisions, of course.

Thats right. There was no "only available for ipad 2". But now they changed the information text. Clever.
 

quink

macrumors newbie
Original poster
May 22, 2010
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it doesnt break the device. You broke the device. Had you not broken it before the update, the update wouldnt be breaking anything

you go ahead and go with another company...I guarantee you you will not get better customer service anywhere. Go ahead and get an android tablet too, and when an update comes around, wait and see if you ever get it...you most likely wont get it on release day, thats for sure

Also, I find your presumption that 'I broke' the device a bit rich. It's outside the warranty period and it stopped working. That doesn't imply that I broke it, on purpose or not on purpose. It's not something I chose to do.

The difference is that if I have to reinstall the software, at least I get back functionality I had previously by being able to install an older version. It's also viable and possible to keep using an older version. That in itself makes up for a few bonuses that an iPad may provide.

If "better customer service" is a synonym for "we'll break this currently 110% functional device (the multi-tasking gestures really make it better) and turn it into one that you have to reboot every time you want to use another app", then I don't want it.
 

foiden

macrumors 6502a
Dec 13, 2008
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Actually, I still have the version of the web page that advertised it as a straight iPad feature for iOS5. My iPad never refreshed the page so it's still there, in memory.

Took a picture of it, and everything. Alas, I guess we're an odd bunch in that we have *offline* viewing options just to take snapshots like this. :)

https://files.me.com/akaimizu/r954iw <-- Original iOS 5 advertisement before ~5:15PM Eastern today.

Still. I'm happy for other things in iOS5, even though that is a big feature. I think the most underrated feature is among the top 3 best updates for iOS5. Something that will save time, bandwidth, and money.

Delta updates. That's right up there with 3rd party accessible iCloud save data storage. However, the idea that I can start to see my apps make updates only for the files that are needed can turn a 1GB space-needed installation and high-data download to a 1MB or less update.
 

dccorona

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Jun 12, 2008
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Also, I find your presumption that 'I broke' the device a bit rich. It's outside the warranty period and it stopped working. That doesn't imply that I broke it, on purpose or not on purpose. It's not something I chose to do.

The difference is that if I have to reinstall the software, at least I get back functionality I had previously by being able to install an older version. It's also viable and possible to keep using an older version. That in itself makes up for a few bonuses that an iPad may provide.

If "better customer service" is a synonym for "we'll break this currently 110% functional device (the multi-tasking gestures really make it better) and turn it into one that you have to reboot every time you want to use another app", then I don't want it.

software updates ≠ customer service. they are in business to make money, and they do that by people upgrading to new devices. You don't get every new feature of every update from now on...thats the way it works. I could understand if iOS 4 had gestures, and iOS 5 didn't, but thats not the case. You had gestures via a workaround, a glitch, something originally reserved for developers only, to test a beta feature. Its a feature that didn't end up seeing the light of day on your device...that is how the tech business works

by customer service I mean things like this: find another company who will replace a computer they could easily fix with a BRAND NEW, 1 year newer model over a year into your ownership of the computer. Someone who will replace your phone 4 times for an unfortunate manufacturing error that causes hairline fractures. You won't.

Things break, thats life. No manufacturing process is 100% effective. You are right that I took the wrong tone with implying YOU broke your device, but it is broken. Apple sells extended warranties on their devices...you chose not to get it. So 1 year later, you are out of luck. That is how all companies work. If you had this same situation with HP or Dell or Motorola or HTC, you wouldn't be treated any better
 
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