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Gr1f

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hey all so I've done the following updates to my mid 2012 5,1 12 core 2.66
1T NVMe via pci
64GB Ram 1333 Mhz
Radeon RX 580
Running Catalina via DosDude's patch

All runs fine but I'm struggling with render times in C4d and I'm using Arnold which uses CPU (and/or GPU but Nvidia only.)

So what suggestions might you fine people have to get a bit more out of this? Obviously I'm not going to get GPU acceleration via the AMD card so do I look at possibly shoving in 1-2 Nvidia cards instead? If so, what cards might give me best bang for buck?

Maybe a GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition 11G? Like this? Ebay

Should I update the processor to a X5690?

Your insight very much appreciated.
 

KeesMacPro

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All runs fine but I'm struggling with render times in C4d and I'm using Arnold which uses CPU (and/or GPU but Nvidia only.)

So what suggestions might you fine people have to get a bit more out of this? Obviously I'm not going to get GPU acceleration via the AMD card so do I look at possibly shoving in 1-2 Nvidia cards instead? If so, what cards might give me best bang for buck?

Maybe a GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition 11G? Like this? Ebay

Should I update the processor to a X5690?

-your question about the CPU is self-answered : for rendering a CPU upgrade makes sense.
-Nvidia cards (except the Kepler family) are only supported up to High Sierra
-AMD hardware acceleration can be achieved :
 
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Gr1f

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@KeesMacPro thanks for response.
I have HW accel but only works on H264 not HVEC. Maybe a Dosdude limitation. I might try to find the time to try OpenCore instead of the Dosdude patch. Not sure of the impact on C4d all but Viewport UI rendering works great for now. There is a new version of Octane that will supposedly utilise AMD... might try that at some point.
Shame on the Nvidia 10.3 limitation.... didn't spot that.

Soooo trying to avoid having to buy a PC. I despise windows. Thought of a Hackintosh and also thinking of a new Mac Pro....
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Have you tried Radeon ProRender with AMD gpu?

Yep, it's incredibly slow.
 
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KeesMacPro

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@KeesMacPro thanks for response.
I have HW accel but only works on H264 not HVEC. Maybe a Dosdude limitation. I might try to find the time to try OpenCore instead of the Dosdude patch. Not sure of the impact on C4d all but rendering works great for now. There is a new version of Octane that will supposedly utilise AMD... might try that at some point.
Shame on the Nvidia 10.3 limitation.... didn't spot that.

Soooo trying to avoid having to buy a PC. I despise windows. Thought of a Hackintosh and also thinking of a new Mac Pro....

YW!
TBH I use my MPs mainly professionally for audio so I'm convinced there are people here that could help you much better/more detailed with your concerns referring to video...

About the option PC: A Windows PC will never be an option for me neither, a new MP (if the budget is there) definitely would be the best option I guess...
Supposing the applications are multicore,the upgrade to (2X) X5690 would give a good speedboost too...
 

Gr1f

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Seriously thinking about a Hackintosh - Ryzen 32core threadripper plus a couple of AMD cards....
 

Hps1

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I've had to ditch the 5,1s for C4D since R22. I have to use CUDA and the ancient drivers/10.13 OS don't play well with the R22 viewport updates. Houdini suffered as well. But prior to that I was singing along just fine, 2012 5,1 with 2x or 3x 1080ti, extra psu.

I had toyed with trying an AMD card for the display/viewport and leaving 1080s in to render, but as Maxon couldn't say whether it'd improve or not just decided to dump the whole thing.

Currently using a Windows machine with 2080Tis. The difference is insane. Sticking with this until the big navi cards are here, might switch back then.
 

Gr1f

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From cost performance aspect, if a new Mac Pro is too expensive, how about "iMac 2020 + Renderfarm service" combination?

The idea is to avoid Render Farms! :) I end up spending too much on them. I always see a little tweak or two after I render with one.

@Hps1 not sure Nvidia is an option really if I want to run Catalina. Maybe put a couple of AMD Radeon VII's cards in it. I realise that will limit my render options - been using Arnold and I like it - it's CPU based so should see some decent gains. They have a GPU version but as with most 3rd party renders it's Nvidia only. Octane says they're working on an AMD version....

I did think about an eGPU (with AMD cards) bolted on to my 5,1 but not sure thunderbolt cards are up to speed. I guess I could build an AMD GPU and hook it up to my MacBook Pro for rendering only.
 
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