Getting Premiere Pro CS5 To Use CUDA in GTX 570 (MP1,1)

Tesselator · May 16, 2013

When I run the GPU sniffer is get this;

Code:

MacPro:~ tess$ /Applications/Adobe\ Premiere\ Pro\ CS5/Adobe\ Premiere\ Pro\ CS5.app/Contents/GPUSniffer.app/Contents/MacOS/GPUSniffer
Texture memory: 0
Vendor string:    NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer string:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 OpenGL Engine
Version string:   2.1 NVIDIA-7.33.0

OpenGL version as determined by Extensionator...
OpenGL Version 2.0
Supports shaders!
Supports BGRA -> BGRA Shader
Supports VUYA Shader -> BGRA
Supports UYVY/YUYV ->BGRA Shader
Supports YUV 4:2:0 -> BGRA Shader
Testing for CUDA support...
   Didn't find any devices that support CUDA.
Completed shader test!
Internal return value: 7

When I search around for solutions I get threads from 2011 saying to use older CUDA drivers but when I try that I then get errors:

Code:

Testing for CUDA support...
GPUSniffer(342,0x7fff7d498960) malloc: *** error for object 0x1075000b0: pointer being freed was not allocated
*** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug

I added the card name "GeForce GTX 570" to the "cuda_supported_cards.txt" anyway but of course I don't get CUDA rendering.

Any solutions not from 2011?

MacVidCards · May 16, 2013

Did you install Cuda drivers?

Use Cuda-z to verify it is working.

Name must be just like. In system profiler

Tesselator · May 17, 2013

MacVidCards said:
Did you install Cuda drivers?

Use Cuda-z to verify it is working.

Name must be just like. In system profiler

Cuda drivers? You mean that thing from NVidia which places the CUDA Preferences in the System Preferences panel? Yes, I tried an old version and also the newest version: 5.0.45

Cuda-Z huh? Mm-kay...

Code:

CUDA-Z Report
=============
Version: 0.7.184 http://cuda-z.sf.net/
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.7.5 11G63b
Driver Version: 7.33.0 295.00.05f03
Driver Dll Version: 5.0
Runtime Dll Version: 5.0

Core Information
----------------
	Name: GeForce GTX 570
	Compute Capability: 2.0
	Clock Rate: 1560 MHz
	PCI Location: 0:8:0
	Multiprocessors: 15 (480 Cores)
	Therds Per Multiproc.: 1536
	Warp Size: 32
	Regs Per Block: 32768
	Threads Per Block: 1024
	Threads Dimensions: 1024 x 1024 x 64
	Grid Dimensions: 65535 x 65535 x 65535
	Watchdog Enabled: Yes
	Integrated GPU: No
	Concurrent Kernels: Yes
	Compute Mode: Default

Memory Information
------------------
	Total Global: 1279.69 MiB
	Bus Width: 320 bits
	Clock Rate: 1900 MHz
	Error Correction: No
	L2 Cache Size: 48 KiB
	Shared Per Block: 48 KiB
	Pitch: 2048 MiB
	Total Constant: 64 KiB
	Texture Alignment: 512 B
	Texture 1D Size: 65536
	Texture 2D Size: 65536 x 65535
	Texture 3D Size: 2048 x 2048 x 2048
	GPU Overlap: Yes
	Map Host Memory: Yes
	Unified Addressing: No
	Async Engine: Yes, Unidirectional

Performance Information
-----------------------
Memory Copy
	Host Pinned to Device: 2698.87 MiB/s
	Host Pageable to Device: 1791.86 MiB/s
	Device to Host Pinned: 3576.71 MiB/s
	Device to Host Pageable: 1158.553 MiB/s
	Device to Device: 60.224 GiB/s
GPU Core Performance
	Single-precision Float: 1786.06 Gflop/s
	Double-precision Float: 267.307 Gflop/s
	32-bit Integer: 767.046 Giop/s
	24-bit Integer: 766.274 Giop/s

Generated: Fri May 17 17:44:35 2013

System Profiler? I'm not sure what that is. You mean in the "System Information"
(About This Mac --> More Info --> System Report --> Graphics/Displays)?

Code:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570:

  Chipset Model:	NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570
  Type:			GPU
  Bus:			PCIe
  Slot:			Slot-1
  PCIe Lane Width:	x16
  VRAM (Total):		1280 MB
  Vendor:		NVIDIA (0x10de)
  Device ID:		0x1086
  Revision ID:		0x00a1
  ROM Revision:		preset 1.0.0
  Displays:

Acer H233H:
  Resolution:		1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
  Pixel Depth:		32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
  Display Serial No.:	LFS0W0134342
  Main Display:		Yes
  Mirror:		Off
  Online:		Yes
  Rotation:		Supported
  Television:		Yes

TheEasterBunny · May 17, 2013

"System Profiler" is what they used to call "System Information"

Tesselator · May 17, 2013

TheEasterBunny said:
"System Profiler" is what they used to call "System Information"

Ah, OK. I've tried:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570
GeForce GTX 570
GTX 570
NVIDIA GTX 570

And nothing seems to work. No matter what the option is always grayed out and set to software:

nigelbb · May 17, 2013

I'm on CS6 but this is the contents of my cuda_supported_cards.txt

GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GT 650M
Quadro CX
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro 4000
GeForce GTX 570

Tesselator · May 17, 2013

nigelbb said:
I'm on CS6 but this is the contents of my cuda_supported_cards.txt

GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GT 650M
Quadro CX
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro 4000
GeForce GTX 570

Yeah, when I follow the steps in the 5 or 6 identical (verbatim) step tutorials for this hack "GeForce GTX 570" is the string I'm supposed to add. I tried that already of course. But according to the same step tutorials adding the name like that only works if the "GPUSniffer" reports that CUDA cores were found. When I run it it says: "Didn't find any devices that support CUDA." as shown in the first post (above).

jasonvp · May 17, 2013

Tesselator said:
When I run it it says: "Didn't find any devices that support CUDA." as shown in the first post (above).

There's a driver issue of some sort going on here. I dunno what it is, precisely as it's been a while since I've used Premiere Pro on 10.7.x. But, as far as Premiere is concerned, you've done all of the right things. When the GPU Sniffer tells you it sees nothing that supports CUDA, that's the hint that something's up with your drivers.

jas

TheEasterBunny · May 17, 2013

Mine uses Cuda driver 5.0.59 for a GT430, odd

nigelbb · May 17, 2013

TheEasterBunny said:
Mine uses Cuda driver 5.0.59 for a GT430, odd

I presume that like me you are running Mountain Lion whereas the OP is running Lion on a Mac Pro 1,1. However the download page for the 10.7.5 295.00.05f03 drivers does link to the newest CUDA driver so I guess that is what should be used http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/macosx-cuda-5.0.59-driver-uk.html

Tesselator · May 17, 2013

jasonvp said:
There's a driver issue of some sort going on here. I dunno what it is, precisely as it's been a while since I've used Premiere Pro on 10.7.x. But, as far as Premiere is concerned, you've done all of the right things. When the GPU Sniffer tells you it sees nothing that supports CUDA, that's the hint that something's up with your drivers.

Hmmm, great... I wonder what it could be?

Anyone know a good method, procedure, or starting point for detecting such "driver issues"?

TheEasterBunny said:
Mine uses Cuda driver 5.0.59 for a GT430, odd

That is odd. I blame the wholly inadequate NVidia support for OS X on their site and apparently in their attitudes.

nigelbb said:
I presume that like me you are running Mountain Lion whereas the OP is running Lion on a Mac Pro 1,1. However the download page for the 10.7.5 295.00.05f03 drivers does link to the newest CUDA driver so I guess that is what should be used http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/macosx-cuda-5.0.59-driver-uk.html

Thanks I installed it without a hitch. Of course nothing other than the driver version has changed - still all the same problems (retested all).

dtechlogic · May 17, 2013

You can follow the steps from this site also. I follow the steps from him to enable cuda in my adobe CS5.5 Production premium. It work and i don't have any problem after that. download the attachment from his site and it will have the steps of what to do. For CS6 and 5.5 is the same method just different folder name.

http://www.vidmuze.com/how-to-enable-gpu-cuda-in-adobe-cs6-for-mac/

Tesselator · May 17, 2013

dtechlogic said:
You can follow the steps from this site also. I follow the steps from him to enable cuda in my adobe CS5.5 Production premium. It work and i don't have any problem after that. download the attachment from his site and it will have the steps of what to do. For CS6 and 5.5 is the same method just different folder name.

http://www.vidmuze.com/how-to-enable-gpu-cuda-in-adobe-cs6-for-mac/

Thanks! Yup, that's yet another identical verbatim step tutorial like I followed.

Originally I used TextEdit to modify the file and add "GeForce GTX 570" to the list. I have since restored a TM virgin copy of "Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.app" and used nano (an enhanced free Pico clone) to edit the file. It didn't matter tho.

No change. And I still get the following output from GPUSniffer:

Code:

MacPro:~ tess$ /Applications/Adobe\ Premiere\ Pro\ CS5/Adobe\ Premiere\ Pro\ CS5.app/Contents/GPUSniffer
-bash: /Applications/Adobe Premiere Pro CS5/Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.app/Contents/GPUSniffer: No such file or directory
MacPro:~ tess$ /Applications/Adobe\ Premiere\ Pro\ CS5/Adobe\ Premiere\ Pro\ CS5.app/Contents/GPUSniffer.app/Contents/MacOS/GPUSniffer 
Texture memory: 0
Vendor string:    NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer string:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 OpenGL Engine
Version string:   2.1 NVIDIA-7.33.0

OpenGL version as determined by Extensionator...
OpenGL Version 2.0
Supports shaders!
Supports BGRA -> BGRA Shader
Supports VUYA Shader -> BGRA
Supports UYVY/YUYV ->BGRA Shader
Supports YUV 4:2:0 -> BGRA Shader
Testing for CUDA support...
   Didn't find any devices that support CUDA.
Completed shader test!
Internal return value: 7

TheEasterBunny · May 17, 2013

nigelbb said:
I presume that like me you are running Mountain Lion whereas the OP is running Lion on a Mac Pro 1,1. However the download page for the 10.7.5 295.00.05f03 drivers does link to the newest CUDA driver so I guess that is what should be used http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/macosx-cuda-5.0.59-driver-uk.html

I have a Pro 1,1 running Lion 10.7.5, very much like Tess's. His has more bells and whistles though, mine is quieter

Tesselator · May 17, 2013

.

Interesting. Blender also looks to see if the card is CUDA equipped and it can't find anything either:

.

MacVidCards · May 17, 2013

This might be 32/64 bit issue.

linuxcooldude · May 17, 2013

nigelbb said:
I'm on CS6 but this is the contents of my cuda_supported_cards.txt

GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GT 650M
Quadro CX
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro 4000
GeForce GTX 570

I had the same problem, but moved GeForce GTX 570 to the top of the list and it worked.

Tesselator · May 17, 2013

MacVidCards said:
This might be 32/64 bit issue.

What processes or files would I check to find out?

linuxcooldude said:
I had the same problem, but moved GeForce GTX 570 to the top of the list and it worked.

I tried it at top, bottom, and middle. I tried with just one 570 "name" in the list and with all the variants I listed above all at once. Nada...

666sheep · May 17, 2013

MacVidCards said:
This might be 32/64 bit issue.

And it most likely is.
Tried to turn on MPE on 570 in 1,1 yesterday, no dice. GPUSniffer detects it without problems but says: "Not chosen because it did not match the named list of cards". Exactly the same like in this case: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4424709
Didn't test it in K64 because I got rid of Chameleon for now.

On the other hand, I know that it's possible to enable MPE in K32 with proper EFI32 card. So, my guess would be that 64bit EFI and unflashed cards do need K64, MPE-capable 32bit EFI cards will work with K32.

Tesselator · May 17, 2013

666sheep said:
And it most likely is.
Tried to turn on MPE on 570 in 1,1 yesterday, no dice. GPUSniffer detects it without problems but says: "Not chosen because it did not match the named list of cards". Exactly the same like in this case: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4424709
Didn't test it in K64 because I got rid of Chameleon for now.

On the other hand, I know that it's possible to enable MPE in K32 with proper EFI32 card. So, my guess would be that 64bit EFI and unflashed cards do need K64, MPE-capable 32bit EFI cards will work with K32.

Well that sucks nuggets... I chose a 570 over a 680 just to avoid the "64-bit" Kernel issue! Sigh...

MacVidCards · May 18, 2013

666sheep said:
And it most likely is.
Tried to turn on MPE on 570 in 1,1 yesterday, no dice. GPUSniffer detects it without problems but says: "Not chosen because it did not match the named list of cards". Exactly the same like in this case: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4424709
Didn't test it in K64 because I got rid of Chameleon for now.

On the other hand, I know that it's possible to enable MPE in K32 with proper EFI32 card. So, my guess would be that 64bit EFI and unflashed cards do need K64, MPE-capable 32bit EFI cards will work with K32.

I do know that we sell a 8800GT in a 1GB size that meets the needs for MPE and we rarely get them returned. SO I have every reasont o believe that they work for the majority of people. So that is why I believe that EFI32 card with sufficient CUDA level and more than 768MB is what is needed on a 1,1.

Sadly the G80 cards, while frequently faster than G92, do not support a new enough version of CUDA.

So Quadro 4600 and 5600 and 8800GTX & Ultra don't work either.

5050 · May 19, 2013

Tesselator said:
Well that sucks nuggets... I chose a 570 over a 680 just to avoid the "64-bit" Kernel issue! Sigh...

Any luck getting your MacPro1,1 to recognize the 570? After installing the 690 into my flashed MacPro5,1, I'd love to have a CUDA option for my MacPro2,1.

Tesselator · May 19, 2013

5050 said:
Any luck getting your MacPro1,1 to recognize the 570? After installing the 690 into my flashed MacPro5,1, I'd love to have a CUDA option for my MacPro2,1.

No. I'm being lazy about it. I guess there are walk-thrus and downloadable ROM images but I haven't taken the time to look yet.

If you do post or link up your findings here. When I do I will do the same.

666sheep · May 21, 2013

Tesselator said:
Well that sucks nuggets... I chose a 570 over a 680 just to avoid the "64-bit" Kernel issue! Sigh...

I can now confirm that in K64 mode it works flawlessly with unflashed and EFI64 flashed 570 as well.
Mac Pro 1,1, 10.7.5 booted with 64-bit kernel + latest CUDA, Premiere CS6.

But IDK why GPUSniffer from Pr 5 does not recognize your card... One from CS6 recognizes mine in both kernel modes.

Maybe the answer is here: http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/...ocessing-and-the-mercury-playback-engine.html

They state that CS5 does not support 570, even in Win (last post): http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/205/875843

Tesselator · May 22, 2013

666sheep said:
I can now confirm that in K64 mode it works flawlessly with unflashed and EFI64 flashed 570 as well.
Mac Pro 1,1, 10.7.5 booted with 64-bit kernel + latest CUDA, Premiere CS6.

But IDK why GPUSniffer from Pr 5 does not recognize your card... One from CS6 recognizes mine in both kernel modes.

Maybe the answer is here: http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/...ocessing-and-the-mercury-playback-engine.html

They state that CS5 does not support 570, even in Win (last post): http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/205/875843

OK, I get it.

Thanks man!

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