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mojonano

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Aug 14, 2007
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I checked out the new iMacs at my local Apple store a couple of days ago. The screen glare is horrific. I am very thankful that I bought my iMac nine months ago before these glossy screens came out. Some have said "What's the big deal, MacBook's have had glossy screens." I'm typing on a MacBook now and the glare doesn't come close to that on the new iMacs.

A major design failure on Apple's part. Hopefully, they will have at least a matte option before my next purchase. How did this one get by you, Steve?
 

pcorajr

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Jun 6, 2007
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I checked out the new iMacs at my local Apple store a couple of days ago. The screen glare is horrific. I am very thankful that I bought my iMac nine months ago before these glossy screens came out. Some have said "What's the big deal, MacBook's have had glossy screens." I'm typing on a MacBook now and the glare doesn't come close to that on the new iMacs.

A major design failure on Apple's part. Hopefully, they will have at least a matte option before my next purchase. How did this one get by you, Steve?

That is because you are at the Apple store. The amount of lighting in that place is horrific. seriously I had my new iMac now for almost a week and I have had no problems with the glare unless the sun is beating down on my screen which is maybe 2 minutes out of the hole day.
 

wintersway

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Aug 13, 2007
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I checked out the new iMacs at my local Apple store a couple of days ago. The screen glare is horrific. I am very thankful that I bought my iMac nine months ago before these glossy screens came out. Some have said "What's the big deal, MacBook's have had glossy screens." I'm typing on a MacBook now and the glare doesn't come close to that on the new iMacs.

A major design failure on Apple's part. Hopefully, they will have at least a matte option before my next purchase. How did this one get by you, Steve?

I have a matte 17' MBP. I bought a 24" iMac and was concerned about the "GLARE" and you know what? When I sit down in front of the iMac what do I see? I see 24" of hi-res goodness! I don't notice any glare.

Of course, your MMV, but I think some people play with the box in some less than optimal conditions for a SHORT period of time and immediately say this sucks .

To call it a design failure is naive at best.
 

bembol

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Jul 29, 2006
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Do you base your HDTV purchases in stores like Best Buy? Bad Lighting, Factory Presets or even worst Best Buy turning up the Settings.

pcorajr and like many have said, you can't base it on their set up.

This Glossy complaints/ranting is getting out of hand. LOL
 

mojonano

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Aug 14, 2007
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Glare Redux

To those critical of my post:

1. To dismiss my comments by suggesting that the Apple store is an inappropriate environment in which to make observations about glare, I would note that none of the other Apple screens in the store were showing similar glare other than the new iMacs. Second, many users do work in environments with overhead florescent lights or windows that are sunny.

2. I don't think that the criticism of these screens is overblown and something that people need to get over. The same was said about those commenting about the scratches on the first generation of iPod nanos. In fact, the feedback led Apple to quickly change the case. Hopefully, they will takes the feedback on the glare seriously too.
 

paetrick

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Jul 11, 2007
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To those critical of my post:

1. To dismiss my comments by suggesting that the Apple store is an inappropriate environment in which to make observations about glare, I would note that none of the other Apple screens in the store were showing similar glare other than the new iMacs. Second, many users do work in environments with overhead florescent lights or windows that are sunny.

2. I don't think that the criticism of these screens is overblown and something that people need to get over. The same was said about those commenting about the scratches on the first generation of iPod nanos. In fact, the feedback led Apple to quickly change the case. Hopefully, they will takes the feedback on the glare seriously too.

Haha i would also try to convince myself that the new imac sucks if i had bought an older version just month's before a newly released mac. People just work that way :) it's rather funny though as the new screen really is better to the normal consumer and normal viewing condition :) "Says owner of both old and new gen".
 

aristobrat

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Oct 14, 2005
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Why a new thread on this topic saying almost verbatim what's being said in the other 4-5 ongoing threads about this issue?
 

mpw

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Jun 18, 2004
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I sat at a 20" in a store today and thought PhotoBooth was open until I realised it was just my reflection! Seriously I've got a glossy MacBook and it's not as bad, but then the screen size must exaggerate the effect.

I think that very soon there will be firms offering anti glare replacement screen fronts for $$$
 

Sean Dempsey

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Aug 7, 2006
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I checked out the new iMacs at my local Apple store a couple of days ago. The screen glare is horrific. I am very thankful that I bought my iMac nine months ago before these glossy screens came out. Some have said "What's the big deal, MacBook's have had glossy screens." I'm typing on a MacBook now and the glare doesn't come close to that on the new iMacs.

A major design failure on Apple's part. Hopefully, they will have at least a matte option before my next purchase. How did this one get by you, Steve?
 

mpw

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Jun 18, 2004
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I checked out the new iMacs at my local Apple store a couple of days ago. The screen glare is horrific. I am very thankful that I bought my iMac nine months ago before these glossy screens came out. Some have said "What's the big deal, MacBook's have had glossy screens." I'm typing on a MacBook now and the glare doesn't come close to that on the new iMacs.

A major design failure on Apple's part. Hopefully, they will have at least a matte option before my next purchase. How did this one get by you, Steve?

I checked out the new iMacs at my local Apple store a couple of days ago. The screen glare is horrific. I am very thankful that I bought my iMac nine months ago before these glossy screens came out. Some have said "What's the big deal, MacBook's have had glossy screens." I'm typing on a MacBook now and the glare doesn't come close to that on the new iMacs.

A major design failure on Apple's part. Hopefully, they will have at least a matte option before my next purchase. How did this one get by you, Steve?
Wow, Sean either you're channeling or mojonano is doing some of that Jedi crap on you.

"These are not the iMacs you're looking for."
"These are not the iMacs I'm looking for."
 

headhammer

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May 15, 2007
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I checked out the new iMacs at my local Apple store a couple of days ago. The screen glare is horrific. I am very thankful that I bought my iMac nine months ago before these glossy screens came out. Some have said "What's the big deal, MacBook's have had glossy screens." I'm typing on a MacBook now and the glare doesn't come close to that on the new iMacs.

A major design failure on Apple's part. Hopefully, they will have at least a matte option before my next purchase. How did this one get by you, Steve?

right, sean, we heard mojonano say all of that when he started the thread. now can we please have your opinion? otherwise, please don't double post!
 

johnmcboston

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Sep 16, 2005
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2. I don't think that the criticism of these screens is overblown and something that people need to get over. The same was said about those commenting about the scratches on the first generation of iPod nanos. In fact, the feedback led Apple to quickly change the case. Hopefully, they will takes the feedback on the glare seriously too.

I don't think it's overblown either. When you go to the store and start playing, it IS the first thing you notice, and then you have to move the screen or yourself around a bit to minimize it.

Now when I went I played with the mac for 30-60 minutes, and after that time I didn't notice the glare any more. Just like the fact that 5 minutes after you own it, you're not going to notice white or aluminum any more.

Don't forget $2K is a lot of money to shell out for a computer, and the harsh glare of store lighting is THE first thing you notice when you step up to an imac.

What the apple stores (at least mine) need to do overall is put these computers at better heights. Even short me has to angle the screens up to see them, thus giving me a nice reflection of the store lighting. Never mind trying to use a computer while standing up at a counter set too low for computer use...
 

headhammer

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May 15, 2007
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Wow, Sean either you're channeling or mojonano is doing some of that Jedi crap on you.

"These are not the iMacs you're looking for."
"These are not the iMacs I'm looking for."

d'oh, you beat me to it!
 

mrmjd

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Jul 7, 2007
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...This supposed 'glare' business is all very funny!

Glass has been used in photo frames and for displaying fine art for years! What's the difference, seriously?
 

Sean Dempsey

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Aug 7, 2006
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Any topic that deserves so many threads also deserves so many posts.

Any topic that deserves so many threads also deserves so many posts.
 

nateDEEZY

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Jan 24, 2007
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The glare debate about it may be a bit overblown, but it's the fact that they forced glossy screens onto people... what a terrible decision. IMO, I think the effectively eliminated the market for entry-mid level digital photographers and graphic designers. Who do require matte screens and there ability to reproduce colors accurately.
 

mpw

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Jun 18, 2004
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...This supposed 'glare' business is all very funny!

Glass has been used in photo frames and for displaying fine art for years! What's the difference, seriously?
All the pictures I've had framed I've paid extra for a non-reflective glass or coating, same for my specs. (which I've lost again, grrr)

I think somebody could make a bunch of money selling a non-reflective glass panel for the new iMac, maybe even offer a choice of surrond colours over the standard black?
 

headhammer

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May 15, 2007
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The glare debate about it may be a bit overblown, but it's the fact that they forced glossy screens onto people... what a terrible decision. IMO, I think the effectively eliminated the market for entry-mid level digital photographers and graphic designers. Who do require matte screens and there ability to reproduce colors accurately.

hi, i'm an "entry-mid level digital photographer and graphic designer", as you put it so well.

now go back and read my post at the top of this page, please.
either that, or go and actually use one of the displays for an extended period.
or, go and understand the true issues about screen calibration, because most "entry-mid level digital photographers and graphic designers" don't bother with screen calibration for reasons i've already stated.

the new imac presents no issues in this regard, so i suggest you find a new angle.

edit: my apologies, please find the relevant post at the top of this page:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/341694/
 

shipdestroyer

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Jun 5, 2007
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All the pictures I've had framed I've paid extra for a non-reflective glass or coating, same for my specs. (which I've lost again, grrr)

I think somebody could make a bunch of money selling a non-reflective glass panel for the new iMac, maybe even offer a choice of surrond colours over the standard black?

The black has a profound effect on how the screen looks.
 

mpw

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Jun 18, 2004
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right, sean, we heard mojonano say all of that when he started the thread. now can we please have your opinion? otherwise, please don't double post!

d'oh, you beat me to it!

not to be mean, or anything, but is your middle name 'spam' by any chance?

hi, i'm an "entry-mid level digital photographer and graphic designer", as you put it so well.

now go back and read my post at the top of this page, please.
either that, or go and actually use one of the displays for an extended period.
or, go and understand the true issues about screen calibration, because most "entry-mid level digital photographers and graphic designers" don't bother with screen calibration for reasons i've already stated.

the new imac presents no issues in this regard, so i suggest you find a new angle.
I'm confused? So far you've only posted three times to accuse another poster of spamming and this last post?? People who live in glass houses, should get anti-glare coating...or something.
 

headhammer

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May 15, 2007
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I'm confused? So far you've only posted three times to accuse another poster of spamming and this last post?? People who live in glass houses, should get anti-glare coating...or something.

you can try and argue that if you'd like, but this is the second off topic post i've ever made on these boards, and the first was commenting on another user blatantly copying and pasting another user's post without adding anything of their own.

i also like the way that you've conveniently left the link out of one of my posts which shows why it's relevant :mad:
 

tipem

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Apr 20, 2007
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I'm on my new 20" iMac right now with the blinds fully open. No glare here. It wouldn't surprise me though that I'd have a terrible glare in an Apple store. I imagine they use commercial flourescents and bad lighting to begin with, which you'll never get at home...
 
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