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AngeredTree

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Anyone know of a good Disk Defragmenter other than Norton or TechTool? (basically, a free one? maybe? please?)

Thanks.
 
You probably don't need any defrag software, Panther automatically defrags for you. I don't know of any third-party apps though.
 
If you move lots of files larger than 20 megs all the time or have less than 5 gigs left, then yes you do need to defrag, even with panther (which only defrags up to 20 megs). I defrag about every 4-6 months.

Get Diskwarrior.

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AngeredTree said:
Anyone know of a good Disk Defragmenter other than Norton or TechTool? (basically, a free one? maybe? please?)

Thanks.

please do not say norton ever again. Norton utilities is byfar the worst investment possible. Instead of actually defragging your files for os x, norton actually MOVES them. Yes even the most recent version, in fact i took pictures of my test dummy macs using norton and sent them into norton. The farggin /private/etc folder ended up in /Users and junk like that .....go figure. Many other people i know have had this happen as well...and norton denies that file moving is possible.... What a bunch of liers. Sorry i brought this up but its just such a crappy program. The worse part is they are getting away with it...oh well.

Ah yes and people PANTHER IS NOT THE ONLY MAC OS WITH AUTO DEFRAG. Auto defrag is in the filesystem itself. Panther just has this enabled by default. Isn't it funny how apple enabled journalising and auto defrag in panther by default but not in the other oses...stupid company. A few disk programs have options for enabling this on 10.0-10.2. I dont think it is possible to enable this through os 9, but who would want to anyways.

Here is a nifty article about disk optomization: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25668
 
NusuniAdmin said:
please do not say norton ever again. Norton utilities is byfar the worst investment possible. Instead of actually defragging your files for os x, norton actually MOVES them. Yes even the most recent version, in fact i took pictures of my test dummy macs using norton and sent them into norton. The farggin /private/etc folder ended up in /Users and junk like that .....go figure. Many other people i know have had this happen as well...and norton denies that file moving is possible.... What a bunch of liers.

Ah yes and people PANTHER IS NOT THE ONLY MAC OS WITH AUTO DEFRAG. Auto defrag is in the filesystem itself. Panther just has this enabled by default. Isn't it funny how apple enabled journalising and auto defrag in panther by default but not in the other oses...stupid company.

Here is a nifty article about disk optomization: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25668
Norton Utilities was great as a Mac OS 9 utility, but it's utterly worthless as a Mac OS X utility. I also recommend DiskWarrior - it's saved some of my other Macs before (I haven't needed it on my iMac yet - but I shouldn't need it as long as I clone my hard drive on a regular basis with Carbon Copy Cloner).

The reason Apple left journaling and auto defrag off in previous versions of Mac OS X is because Apple felt they weren't ready for widespread use. With Panther, Apple decided that these features were ready for the general public, so Apple enabled them by default.
 
wrldwzrd89 said:
Norton Utilities was great as a Mac OS 9 utility, but it's utterly worthless as a Mac OS X utility. I also recommend DiskWarrior - it's saved some of my other Macs before (I haven't needed it on my iMac yet - but I shouldn't need it as long as I clone my hard drive on a regular basis with Carbon Copy Cloner).

The reason Apple left journaling and auto defrag off in previous versions of Mac OS X is because Apple felt they weren't ready for widespread use. With Panther, Apple decided that these features were ready for the general public, so Apple enabled them by default.

AH yes i forgot to mention its a great classic os utility...just not os x.
 
AssassinOfGates said:
If you move lots of files larger than 20 megs all the time or have less than 5 gigs left, then yes you do need to defrag, even with panther (which only defrags up to 20 megs). I defrag about every 4-6 months.

Get Diskwarrior.

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Duff-Man says....Diskwarrior is *not* a file defrag utility - it is however a great disk directory repair tool and a great addition to anyone's utility toolbox....oh yeah!
 
i use techtool every 4-6 months.. it seems to be the best option... (and i work with lots of large files...) (it annoys me that s/he asks for defrag utilities and yet just about everyone, as usual, says you don't need it... if s/he asked, then answer)

and as duffman said... diskwarrior only optimizes the disk directory or w/e... it doesn't actually rearrange the files (techtool does both)... (oh yeah)

reality
 
Duff-Man said:
Duff-Man says....Diskwarrior is *not* a file defrag utility - it is however a great disk directory repair tool and a great addition to anyone's utility toolbox....oh yeah!


Hey Duff Man,

I was going to ask if everyone from where you lived spoke about themselves in the 3rd person, but then I realised you were from the island... it all makes sense now!

Just a harmless jab from a lower mainlander!

:D
 
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