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antisomnic

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I apologize right now. I know there have probably been 1000+ threads about this computer. I picked mine up after selling my Intel MacBook Air 2020 and also getting my stimulus. This is literally the best computer I've ever owned. Doesn't get hot, everything loads almost instantly. I can't believe Apple waited this long to put their ARM processors into a computer. They are so amazingly powerful, cool, and energy efficient.

I can see this computer not being outdated for years to come. I also bought the Space Grey Magic Mouse 2 to pair with it (got the space grey MacBook)
 

antisomnic

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I agree. Apple used the M1 as an experiment. It passed the experiment. I hate that when I go to watch reviews on YouTube they're mostly negative because the content creators are video editors and their software doesn't work very well yet. Their reviews are biased.
 

Ratsaremyfreinds

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its frigin insane this is faster then my last pc i built way faster and that systems cpu alone took like 244 watts to run lol
 

Apple_Robert

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I agree. Apple used the M1 as an experiment. It passed the experiment. I hate that when I go to watch reviews on YouTube they're mostly negative because the content creators are video editors and their software doesn't work very well yet. Their reviews are biased.
Negative clickbait titles and videos on YouTube are made to bring in revenue for the creator. And a lot of times, the negativity is definitely biased, if not purposefully skewed to make lazy people believe what they are seeing and hearing as truth.

It's good you ignored the verbal diarrhea.
 

Jonr515

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I agree. Apple used the M1 as an experiment. It passed the experiment. I hate that when I go to watch reviews on YouTube they're mostly negative because the content creators are video editors and their software doesn't work very well yet. Their reviews are biased.
I agree with you when you tubers compare a $1900 dollar machine to a Mac Pro that is 10k and pick and choose the footage. That being said this M1 wrecks my previous Intel MBP (2018 I think, 1TB with 16GB of RAM) hands down.
 

Brian1230

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I just got a m1 MacBook Air when I got my stimulus payment, surely didn't need a new laptop, my 2015 MacBook Air still works amazingly well, but after reading about the m1 and the new MacBook Air..... well it was go to the casino and maybe double the stimulus payment or get a new toy.... I chose to get the new toy. This is my second day with it and only charged the battery the day I got it, and never completely shut it down, just close the lid and the battery still had 75% life left after using it all day yesterday. the whole package is amazing, Apple rules the world.
 
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dmccloud

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I agree. Apple used the M1 as an experiment. It passed the experiment. I hate that when I go to watch reviews on YouTube they're mostly negative because the content creators are video editors and their software doesn't work very well yet. Their reviews are biased.

A lot of those creators posting negative reviews tend to be anti-Apple to begin with, and blame Apple for the actions of software developers. OTOH, if you look at Max Tech's videos, they are actually highly complimentary of the M1 Macs, even in comparison to the new LG Gram. I remember seeing one review where the reviewer blamed Apple for every piece of software incompatibility, and noticed that in at least two cases they were trying to use versions of the programs from 2-3 years ago that aren't even available anymore rather than the current versions of the software. One of the Reviewers also referred to Rosetta 2 as spyware, which really killed their credibility and made their video clickbait and nothing more.
 

antisomnic

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Well regardless of some of their opinions, this machine is almost godly. I won't need another computer for many many years.

I don't play World of Warcraft anymore, but I was able to play it on max graphics settings with 50fps. That's pretty amazing. I never have seen any computer that can run it at full. And still the almost instant boot up time and almost instant app load (arm apps) is just insane.

I've said for years that the iPhone processor is leaps and leaps more powerful and more efficient than processors in computers. I didn't understand why this transition didn't happen sooner. I'm glad it's finally taking place and that Apple is doing it so smoothly.
 

jdb8167

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Well regardless of some of their opinions, this machine is almost godly. I won't need another computer for many many years.

I don't play World of Warcraft anymore, but I was able to play it on max graphics settings with 50fps. That's pretty amazing. I never have seen any computer that can run it at full. And still the almost instant boot up time and almost instant app load (arm apps) is just insane.

I've said for years that the iPhone processor is leaps and leaps more powerful and more efficient than processors in computers. I didn't understand why this transition didn't happen sooner. I'm glad it's finally taking place and that Apple is doing it so smoothly.
Apple had to work behind the scenes for years to get the instant success of Rosetta 2. The reason it seems smooth is because of the years of effort that Apple put towards the transition before releasing it to the public.
 
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dmccloud

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Well regardless of some of their opinions, this machine is almost godly. I won't need another computer for many many years.

I don't play World of Warcraft anymore, but I was able to play it on max graphics settings with 50fps. That's pretty amazing. I never have seen any computer that can run it at full. And still the almost instant boot up time and almost instant app load (arm apps) is just insane.

I've said for years that the iPhone processor is leaps and leaps more powerful and more efficient than processors in computers. I didn't understand why this transition didn't happen sooner. I'm glad it's finally taking place and that Apple is doing it so smoothly.

WoW isn't really a system-intensive game, especially given that the base technology hasn't changed much from the original version. The game has also been M1-native since the day the M1 system hit the market, so Blizzard has been working on this project for a while now. I run the game on my MSI gaming laptop with graphics settings on max (standard 1080 resolution) and average right around 100 FPS, even in a raid scenario. On the M1 Pro, I can run it at medium-high settings and get right around 60FPS consistently.

I think that there are two main reasons why it took Apple this long to make the jump to their own silicon. First, Intel had been doing a fairly adequate job of producing mobile processors until they started running into production and yield issues with both 10nm and 7nm processors. At that point, Apple was basically stuck on Intel's timeline of putting out new processors when they were "ready" instead of being able to consistently innovate their hardware. Intel's issues also forced them to run their CPUs faster to achieve the targeted performance gains, which means systems using those chips run hotter and consume significantly more battery life in the process.

The second reason was that Apple does not do CPU/SoC transitions on a whim. They have been working towards this goal for several years now, as evidenced by the WWDC presentation last year. This is no different from the PPC to Intel transition in the early 2000s, as they had been developing both PPC and x86 versions of OS X for a while prior to the formal announcement. For Apple, making the transition as smooth as possible on their end is of paramount importance. This is why Rosetta 2 recompiles x86 code either at time of initial installation or first launch of the app, depending on how the application was originally installed on the system. On the hardware side, Apple needed to develop and iterate the A-series architecture to the point at which new silicon could be developed for a desktop-class OS such as Mac OS. This is a big reason why Apple has picked up so much talent from competitors in the chip design space, including Johnny Srouji. Partnering with TSMC also has allowed Apple to take advantage of their advancements in silicon fabrication, without having to invest heavily in facilities, equipment, and the R&D needed on that side of the equation. TSMC benefits from booking its production capacity on any given process node well in advance, which provides a steady revenue stream to continue developing new processes. TSMC is already at work on both 3nm and 2nm processes, while Intel is still struggling with 10nm and outright fighting with 7nm at this time.
 

antisomnic

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Very insightful.

On a different note, check out this shell/keyboard cover I got to protect my baby (don't mind the worn leather couch, lol):

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Apple_Robert

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