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Tunnelrunner

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As was posted earlier on the forum, Navigon has finally come to the App Store - it's only for the maps of Europe (so far) but I expect to see North America and all the other continents released within the next week. It takes 1.65 GB (pretty typical size for downloading maps for an entire continent) of space on your iphone.

Price point for Navigon Europe? $94.99 USD. Not surprising, IMO. You figure North America will probably run around the same price. And this ought to give us a hint as to how much brand-leader TomTom will be asking for. Back when they unveiled their app for the iphone, I thought it could run as low as $50+ and as high as $100 - I'm now leaning towards the higher end of $100. Sygic IDA, which offers a similar type of GPS model as TomTom and Navigon will most likely also be asking for $50-100.

Gokivo offers a pay-as-you-go monthly subscription for $10 (for the USA). This is pretty standard for other monthly mobile GPS subscription services like VZW Navigator. Gokivo is the first to offer this in the App Store (in addition to in-app purchasing) and they won't be the last; this is only the beginning. You can expect many other services (beyond GPS apps: videogames, camera apps, etc.) to do the same. When NIM's competitor Telenav finally arrives in the App Store, they will also offer a $10 monthly subscription for their services. Don't be surprised if services like Gokivo and Telenav begin to also offer a third price point option: $2.99 for one-day use only. We'll see.

My point is: in the new 3.0 era, fully-featured TBT GPS applications are not cheap. And every GPS service named in this post is of excellent, high quality -- but we're going to have to pay for it. We asked for this; to have access to the same features that Blackberry, WM, and Palm users have had for YEARS. Monthly subscription services like Telenav and Gokivo will allow you to use their cool apps and get real-time traffic delays and constantly updated maps, but you're going to have to pay $10 a month - not $1 a month. From the other GPS model of service, TomTom and Navigon will be asking for probably around $100 to download their maps onto your phone - not $20. I wouldn't be surprised if TomTom also offers a yearly upgrade fee to update their maps, or they might offer smaller upgrades (ie: buying maps for other countries/continents) - again, we will see a lot more of in-app purchasing. You get the drift. Speaking for myself, if a GPS app is of excellent quality, I am willing to pay up to $100+ for it (dedicated GPS PNDs can cost several hundreds of dollars) - I just hope other iphone users are mentally prepping themselves for the realistic prices they're going to be seeing - GPS is not cheap.

As a side-note I should mention: if you're really strapped for cash (as many people are in this economy), there is still the first pseudo-TBT GPS app of them all: G-Map East/West (last I checked, they offered or were in the process of offering maps for all the continents on the planet), which is incredibly, still $24.99. The upgrade for 3.0 will feature full voice/text to speech, etc - at a price point of $25 only! But you'd have to buy it NOW before Xroad increases (as I think they'll have to to stay competitive) their price in the near future. They were the first ones to appear in the App Store, hence the low price - with all the other ones popping up now...well...you get the idea...
 

Jeremy1026

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I've been saying from the begin, the voice guided turn by turn apps will be at least $80. Maps aren't cheap. When you buy a standalone unit, the majority of the cost is in the software. The software costs the same whether it is on their unit or a 3rd parties unit. If you want to upgrade Tom Tom maps you will be paying them $69.95-$89.95 for North America. I'd expect to see the Tom Tom App in that same range if not another $10 more for the user interface development.
 

spyker3292

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GPS apps won't be cheap. Companies don't want to give away a program that you previously needed to buy a $200+ dedicated device for. I think TomTom might end up being the most expensive app I buy (If I do).
 

bbplayer5

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TomTom will probably be 99 dollars US. Dont forget they also sell an accessory they can charge you for too. If you really want navigation and a phone on one device, its really worth it.
 

Lara F

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As a side-note I should mention: if you're really strapped for cash (as many people are in this economy), there is still the first pseudo-TBT GPS app of them all: G-Map East/West (last I checked, they offered or were in the process of offering maps for all the continents on the planet), which is incredibly, still $24.99. The upgrade for 3.0 will feature full voice/text to speech, etc - at a price point of $25 only! But you'd have to buy it NOW before Xroad increases (as I think they'll have to to stay competitive) their price in the near future. They were the first ones to appear in the App Store, hence the low price - with all the other ones popping up now...well...you get the idea...

Don't forget xGPS if you're willing to jailbreak.
 

Stampyhead

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Pricepoint for Navigon Europe? $94.99 USD.

And this is just an introductory rate until June 30. I'm sure over time the prices on these packages will go down, especially as more and more competition comes to the iTunes store. But until then I guess we can expect them to be expensive...
 

samab

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And this is just an introductory rate until June 30. I'm sure over time the prices on these packages will go down, especially as more and more competition comes to the iTunes store. But until then I guess we can expect them to be expensive...

The map business is a duopoly --- Nokia and TomTom owns the only 2 map makers in the world. It is they that control the pricing.
 

Jeremy1026

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The map business is a duopoly --- Nokia and TomTom owns the only 2 map makers in the world. It is they that control the pricing.

How long do you think it takes to make a set of maps? Like, man hours, how many would you guess?
 

lindsayanng

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Over $200:confused: You can buy a dedicated TomTom for less than $50.

I think the point is simply to well, simplify. Its not to get yourself a cheaper turn by turn navigation unit, but instead to just simplify the amount of gadgets you need..

Right now I have a phone, a GPS, a digital camera, a video camera, an ipod, and a satellite radio.. now, i dont carry the video camera on me at all times, but there are random moments where I wish i did.. But i feel that the direction everything is moving is to have one all encompassing gadget.. THAT is the focus.. not to offer a lesser model for cheap.

Right now, i still need my camera, because this camera isnt great.. and I still need a video camera.. But i could get rid of my satellite radio, ipod.. and eventaully a GPS if i chose too.. But i just bought a new one. If my existing one gets stolen, and these apps are truely as good as the stand alone, then I will just get the app.. to consolidate.

LIke i said, its not about getting a lesser model for cheaper. The value of those things isn;t in the physical item, its in the maps.. and if we want them on our phone, we will pay pretty much the same price.. But for me, I still really like my garmin.. so unless the come out with something for the iphone that has the same UI and functions, Iw il stick with it..
 

marksman

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another option is to buy a dedicated TBT device like a garmin

The less devices I have to manage the better. If I can get a good TBT navigation system on a device I already carry with me all the time, that is much better then messing with another device.

I expected the TOM TOM would come in around $80 or so. Remember the tom tom also has the accerssory kit, so it might be like $99.00 for the app and the mounting kit.

the only thing is i think I would need the mounting device for the Tom Tom as the volume on the 3G iPhone is not really loud enough, for me, to have successful TBT navigation.
 

itsjustmeee

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Tunnelrunner, where did you hear that G-Map will have an upgrade with voice commands, etc?? I have G-Map and I'm pretty happy with it, but I would probably jump ship and get the Tomtom app if they don't upgrade. It would be very wise of them to push that out before any other GPS program gets in the app store........
 

chimpboy74

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If you are in uk Argos are doing 2 X £15 iTunes vouchers for £20. Buy a job lot of them and you save a few squid on the more expensive apps!


Thanks to ajnicho for the heads up on the navigon thread
 

severe

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May 23, 2007
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Tunnelrunner, where did you hear that G-Map will have an upgrade with voice commands, etc?? I have G-Map and I'm pretty happy with it, but I would probably jump ship and get the Tomtom app if they don't upgrade. It would be very wise of them to push that out before any other GPS program gets in the app store........

Looks great and has all the features the current version is missing, IMO.

G-Map U.S. iPhone Voice Guidance Preview

Seems like they've had this together for some time. Makes you wonder what the delay could be.
 

RobT

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You can get a TomTom unit for under $75.00.

My guess is the software for iPhone will be $39.99 or $49.99.
 

dukebound85

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The less devices I have to manage the better. If I can get a good TBT navigation system on a device I already carry with me all the time, that is much better then messing with another device.

I expected the TOM TOM would come in around $80 or so. Remember the tom tom also has the accerssory kit, so it might be like $99.00 for the app and the mounting kit.

the only thing is i think I would need the mounting device for the Tom Tom as the volume on the 3G iPhone is not really loud enough, for me, to have successful TBT navigation.

i dont know about you but my garmin resides in my car. i dont carry it around

seems like more of a hassle to continusouly take my phone out, mount it and unmount it if i need to check stuff, etc than keep my phone in my pocket or seat and have the garmin doing all the navigating
 

Jeremy1026

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i dont know about you but my garmin resides in my car. i dont carry it around

seems like more of a hassle to continusouly take my phone out, mount it and unmount it if i need to check stuff, etc than keep my phone in my pocket or seat and have the garmin doing all the navigating

I personally use my iPhone for my in car audio (through AUX port.) So since I'm already mounting it up every time I drive, I'm all for getting rid of a device.
 

itsjustmeee

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It's a hassle if you already have a GPS mounted in your car, but if you travel a lot and do the car rental thing, or are in someone else's car that doesn't have it, it's totally worth it.

And my guess is that the delay with the newest G-Maps update has to do with the release of the 3.0 software. I believe they wouldn't have been able to sneak past the approval process with the voice turn by turn.
 

severe

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May 23, 2007
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And my guess is that the delay with the newest G-Maps update has to do with the release of the 3.0 software. I believe they wouldn't have been able to sneak past the approval process with the voice turn by turn.

This is true. They claimed it wouldn't be released until 3.0. I'm just wondering where it's at now that we've updated.
 

itsjustmeee

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They are probably doing their last minute tweaks after the official launch of 3.0 . I'm sure they realize the time issue here with tomtom breathing down their necks. That youtube video is pretty old and I'm sure there will be some improvements when we see the newest version. From looking at the video, IMO the graphics (the main window part) looks better on the version that's out now than that preview. They've had a few months to really make it cool. Let's hope we see it in a few days.
 
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