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Steve.P.JobsFan

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Sorry to add another rant post into the forum, but this is still absolutely effing ridiculous.

12.9" iPad Pro with a better than HD (actually, I think it's better than 2K...) display and Apple decided for iOS 10 to make the music text have to scroll.

On a 12.9" device.

With a 2732x2048 resolution display.

Are you kidding me, Apple?

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Julien

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.... (actually, I think it's better than 2K...)....]

2732=2.7K ;)

Also in TV:
HD 1080 is 1920x1080 and 1.9K is rounded up to 2K
UHD is 3840x2160 and 3.8K is rounded up and called *4K

4K is a misnomer and the official name is UHD (but yuck). 4K is actually a digital cinema (DCI) term and applies to a 4096x2160 (1.85 aspect ratio).
 
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Steve.P.JobsFan

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Your right. It shouldn't do that. Did it do it on iOS 9? I don't remember.

Nope, it didn't do it in iOS 9 unless the song title was obscenely long.

The song that is visible in my screenshot didn't scroll on iOS 9. It does now on iOS 10.

The problem is that Apple decided to make the font for music on the lock screen at least 5x bigger. So now the amount of characters a title can have before scrolling is greatly reduced. It just looks bad IMO.
 

DarkSorrow82

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Nope, it didn't do it in iOS 9 unless the song title was obscenely long.

The song that is visible in my screenshot didn't scroll on iOS 9. It does now on iOS 10.

The problem is that Apple decided to make the font for music on the lock screen at least 5x bigger. So now the amount of characters a title can have before scrolling is greatly reduced. It just looks bad IMO.

Should send them a feedback email and tell them.
 

jonnyb098

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Sorry to add another rant post into the forum, but this is still absolutely effing ridiculous.

12.9" iPad Pro with a better than HD (actually, I think it's better than 2K...) display and Apple decided for iOS 10 to make the music text have to scroll.

On a 12.9" device.

With a 2732x2048 resolution display.

Are you kidding me, Apple?

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The 12.9 pro was a pretty much a mistake like the iPad 3. No one was asking for a giant iPad. So they reneged and made the amazing 9.7 pro which I'm sure is selling MUCH better. There's a reason 9.7 is the perfect screen size. 6 months later Apple got on stage and said how much customers wanted the iPad Pro features in a NOT 12.9 inch screen .
 
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lagwagon

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The 12.9 pro was a pretty much a mistake like the iPad 3. No one was asking for a giant iPad. So they reneged and made the amazing 9.7 pro which I'm sure is selling MUCH better. There's a reason 9.7 is the perfect screen size. 6 months later Apple got on stage and said how much customers wanted the iPad Pro features in a NOT 12.9 inch screen .

Don't speak for everyone. I never owned an iPad until they released the 12.9" because I've always felt the 9.7" to be too small for the tablet I wanted. I'm sure there are others who also felt the same way. The Pencil and drawing works far better on the larger canvas and is more accurate to actual paper size.

Price plays a big factor in people choosing the 9.7" or 12.9". The 12.9" gets into MacBook prices and can turn off a lot, so they go with the less expensive 9.7" that still has all the same Pencil features and such.
 

Ferc Kast

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They do have it set to use to columns on the lock screen if it's in landscape mode. (At least on Air 2) Portrait mode on it could be better, but it's not horrible.
 

iOSUser7

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OP be careful, some people here will tell you that this is perfectly fine, that the iPad Pro is using the big screen at its best and that you should shut up anyway because you are not an Apple designer and Apple knows what's best for you.
 

mtcowdog

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Haha. Fair. I have a 9.7 iPad Pro running iOS 10 beta. I like a lot about iOS 10. But there is nothing in iOS 10, to me, that makes me feel like I spent my money well on the iPad. Haha. These days iPad is just a bigger screen and limited function iPhone that I can read more easily with my old eyes. That's sad on so many levels.

OK, I do love the Apple pencil. For me, it's fun and useful. But beyond that, iOS on iPad is not so much beyond the underlying things that are good across iOS devices.
 

jamesin702

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OP be careful, some people here will tell you that this is perfectly fine, that the iPad Pro is using the big screen at its best and that you should shut up anyway because you are not an Apple designer and Apple knows what's best for you.
Sadly, this couldn't be more true.
 
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bradbomb

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The 12.9 pro was a pretty much a mistake like the iPad 3. No one was asking for a giant iPad. So they reneged and made the amazing 9.7 pro which I'm sure is selling MUCH better. There's a reason 9.7 is the perfect screen size. 6 months later Apple got on stage and said how much customers wanted the iPad Pro features in a NOT 12.9 inch screen .

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I owned the iPad 2 and then the iPad 4 before I got the 12.9 iPad Pro. First of all, the fact that this weighs the same as my old iPad 4 is amazing. I love the larger screen both for regular iPad use and to annotate PDFs using the Apple Pencil. Yes, the 12.9" is not for everyone, but the market is there and it is not going away. I know a lot of artists that love sketching on this and love that they don't need to be tied to a computer with their Cintiq. Like now someone can take the iPad Pro as a nice size canvas and literally sketch somewhere like Central Park in NYC or Golden Gate Park in SF or even somewhere like on the top of Half Dome at Yosemite. (FYI, I'm personally not an artist myself and don't do this, I just enjoy the larger screen when traveling and watching movies and TV shows.)
 

HopefulHumanist

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You make a good point on use of screen real estate but I think the decision was made along aesthetic lines. The artwork itself is too low resolution to blow it up on the whole screen and the music controls would look strange being stretched over the entire screen while the artwork was not.

I'm not sure what the solution would be, besides using higher resolution artwork but I'm not sure if that's actually feasible as those files get rather large pretty quickly.
 

GrindedDown

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I certainly agree that the 12.9 needs some tlc in the optimization department in regards to screen real estate. This being one of them. I also would like to see some interesting things done with the home screen, but I am not totally opposed to how much space there is.

The one thing that is disappointing to me is that while iphone will be getting home screen quasi-widgets in the form of 3d touch (example: 3d touch weather to see info like temp, without having to open the app), the ipad pro is going to be left without any sort of home screen optimizations like this. Hopefully there will be some meaningful updates in a 10.x update in the near future.
 

ohms12

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You make a good point on use of screen real estate but I think the decision was made along aesthetic lines. The artwork itself is too low resolution to blow it up on the whole screen and the music controls would look strange being stretched over the entire screen while the artwork was not.

I'm not sure what the solution would be, besides using higher resolution artwork but I'm not sure if that's actually feasible as those files get rather large pretty quickly.

So why does the song title text need to scroll? There's more than enough real estate to allow a little more width for text without ruining any "aesthetic lines"..
 
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