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roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
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I'd be surprised if any company involved didn't help. Even though they're all now trying to run away from the NSA, tucking their junk back into their trousers and attempting to zip up before anybody notices.
 

jcpb

macrumors 6502a
Jun 5, 2012
860
0
1. You are required to assist the NSA, or your future business with the government is on the line.
2. You are not allowed to talk about your assistance to the NSA, thanks to FISA.
 

GermanyChris

macrumors 601
Jul 3, 2011
4,185
5
Here
I'll bet MS didn't offer their assistance they were probably made an "offer they couldn't refuse"

It's been a good few months to be a Linux user
 

smoledman

macrumors 68000
Oct 17, 2011
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364
This is devastating to Microsoft if indeed they are giving blanket access to Skype & Outlook while Apple & Google are fighting for their user's privacy rights tooth & nail.
 

G51989

macrumors 68030
Feb 25, 2012
2,530
10
NYC NY/Pittsburgh PA
This is devastating to Microsoft if indeed they are giving blanket access to Skype & Outlook while Apple & Google are fighting for their user's privacy rights tooth & nail.

I think theres a very good chance that Microsoft was basically forced to help the NSA. As Apple and Google will eventually be forced to help them as well, probably via blackmail.

I would surmise that Microsoft was there and targeted first, because they've been big a lot longer.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
This is devastating to Microsoft
No it isn't, I think the general public beyond the devastation aspect of the NSA spying on its citizens. My point is it will only have negligible effect on the company. I'm not MS isn't alone in providing the data either
 

smoledman

macrumors 68000
Oct 17, 2011
1,943
364
I think theres a very good chance that Microsoft was basically forced to help the NSA. As Apple and Google will eventually be forced to help them as well, probably via blackmail.

I would surmise that Microsoft was there and targeted first, because they've been big a lot longer.

Uh no, Microsoft was the first to sign up in 2009 and apparently went out of their way to provide blanket access to all cloud services. Unlike Apple/Twitter who are fighting tooth & nail to protect our privacy.
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
8,784
215
UK
Uh no, Microsoft was the first to sign up in 2009 and apparently went out of their way to provide blanket access to all cloud services. Unlike Apple/Twitter who are fighting tooth & nail to protect our privacy.

Source?
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
8,784
215
UK
Uh no, Microsoft was the first to sign up in 2009 and apparently went out of their way to provide blanket access to all cloud services. Unlike Apple/Twitter who are fighting tooth & nail to protect our privacy.

Both your source and the Guardian do not mention the bold bit. Where is the proof that Apple and Twitter have been fighting it tooth and nail? Because I was under the impression it probably sorta compulsory.

Despite denying it, all of these companies probably had to go out of their way to provide information for the NSA. And they're probably not allowed to talk about it.
 
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